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I am a new assistant professor in a research institute, where the number of top-tier publications matter a lot. In short, they simply count the number of tier-one papers.
I am highly advised to work out a good publication pipeline, in terms of how many papers are in progress (e.g., implementation), how many papers are under review, and also how many are in the preliminary stage to investigate the feasibility.
So besides "working hard", what are some tips, comments and advices on start to setting up a "publication pipeline"? To concretize a bit, what I can come up with are:
has one or two main research lines such that you can constantly publish your major research output towards some really prestigious conferences in your field, in CS it's like SIGGRAH, OSDI, POPL and so on. But of course, usually preparing such a work takes a very long time; my personally experience is about 1~1.5 year, when I was a Ph.D. student.
Simultaneously, become versatile in terms of skillset and therefore can quickly hunt for some (low-hanging) fruit. This can be much shorter, say 3~5 months, can still target on tier-one conference, but maybe not that "prestigious" ones. I am not going to name such conferences to avoid some arguments here...
What else?
All I can find is a thread here (https://www.chronicle.com/forums/index.php?topic=38427.0), but the message is a bit unclear to me. Any suggestion or advice would be appreciated a lot. Thanks.
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I am a new assistant professor in a research institute, where the number of top-tier publications matter a lot. In short, they simply count the number of tier-one papers.
I am highly advised to work out a good publication pipeline, in terms of how many papers are in progress (e.g., implementation), how many papers are under review, and also how many are in the preliminary stage to investigate the feasibility.
So besides "working hard", what are some tips, comments and advices on start to setting up a "publication pipeline"? To concretize a bit, what I can come up with are:
has one or two main research lines such that you can constantly publish your major research output towards some really prestigious conferences in your field, in CS it's like SIGGRAH, OSDI, POPL and so on. But of course, usually preparing such a work takes a very long time; my personally experience is about 1~1.5 year, when I was a Ph.D. student.
Simultaneously, become versatile in terms of skillset and therefore can quickly hunt for some (low-hanging) fruit. This can be much shorter, say 3~5 months, can still target on tier-one conference, but maybe not that "prestigious" ones. I am not going to name such conferences to avoid some arguments here...
What else?
All I can find is a thread here (https://www.chronicle.com/forums/index.php?topic=38427.0), but the message is a bit unclear to me. Any suggestion or advice would be appreciated a lot. Thanks.
publications research-process professors assistant-professor
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"... number of top-tier publications matter a lot. In short, they simply count the number of tier-one papers". Matter for what? Promotion to a higher grade, or some sort of assessment in case there is a probation period for you? If it is the former, you may have some/plenty-of time before you make the transition, everyone realizes it takes a little while for new faculty to get going in terms of a working-publishing group, so there might be an expected time-scale here. Also, is this criterion documented somewhere?
– 299792458
Apr 17 at 10:57
3
For contract renewal and eventually for promotion.
– lllllllllllll
Apr 17 at 11:03
@299792458 just some internal list but essentially comparable to csranking.org
– lllllllllllll
Apr 17 at 11:10
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I do not have an answer and I would be skeptical of any answer. If there was an easy answer to this problem, then everyone could be a tenured full professor at an elite university.
– emory
Apr 17 at 21:17
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I am a new assistant professor in a research institute, where the number of top-tier publications matter a lot. In short, they simply count the number of tier-one papers.
I am highly advised to work out a good publication pipeline, in terms of how many papers are in progress (e.g., implementation), how many papers are under review, and also how many are in the preliminary stage to investigate the feasibility.
So besides "working hard", what are some tips, comments and advices on start to setting up a "publication pipeline"? To concretize a bit, what I can come up with are:
has one or two main research lines such that you can constantly publish your major research output towards some really prestigious conferences in your field, in CS it's like SIGGRAH, OSDI, POPL and so on. But of course, usually preparing such a work takes a very long time; my personally experience is about 1~1.5 year, when I was a Ph.D. student.
Simultaneously, become versatile in terms of skillset and therefore can quickly hunt for some (low-hanging) fruit. This can be much shorter, say 3~5 months, can still target on tier-one conference, but maybe not that "prestigious" ones. I am not going to name such conferences to avoid some arguments here...
What else?
All I can find is a thread here (https://www.chronicle.com/forums/index.php?topic=38427.0), but the message is a bit unclear to me. Any suggestion or advice would be appreciated a lot. Thanks.
publications research-process professors assistant-professor
I am a new assistant professor in a research institute, where the number of top-tier publications matter a lot. In short, they simply count the number of tier-one papers.
I am highly advised to work out a good publication pipeline, in terms of how many papers are in progress (e.g., implementation), how many papers are under review, and also how many are in the preliminary stage to investigate the feasibility.
So besides "working hard", what are some tips, comments and advices on start to setting up a "publication pipeline"? To concretize a bit, what I can come up with are:
has one or two main research lines such that you can constantly publish your major research output towards some really prestigious conferences in your field, in CS it's like SIGGRAH, OSDI, POPL and so on. But of course, usually preparing such a work takes a very long time; my personally experience is about 1~1.5 year, when I was a Ph.D. student.
Simultaneously, become versatile in terms of skillset and therefore can quickly hunt for some (low-hanging) fruit. This can be much shorter, say 3~5 months, can still target on tier-one conference, but maybe not that "prestigious" ones. I am not going to name such conferences to avoid some arguments here...
What else?
All I can find is a thread here (https://www.chronicle.com/forums/index.php?topic=38427.0), but the message is a bit unclear to me. Any suggestion or advice would be appreciated a lot. Thanks.
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"... number of top-tier publications matter a lot. In short, they simply count the number of tier-one papers". Matter for what? Promotion to a higher grade, or some sort of assessment in case there is a probation period for you? If it is the former, you may have some/plenty-of time before you make the transition, everyone realizes it takes a little while for new faculty to get going in terms of a working-publishing group, so there might be an expected time-scale here. Also, is this criterion documented somewhere?
– 299792458
Apr 17 at 10:57
3
For contract renewal and eventually for promotion.
– lllllllllllll
Apr 17 at 11:03
@299792458 just some internal list but essentially comparable to csranking.org
– lllllllllllll
Apr 17 at 11:10
1
I do not have an answer and I would be skeptical of any answer. If there was an easy answer to this problem, then everyone could be a tenured full professor at an elite university.
– emory
Apr 17 at 21:17
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"... number of top-tier publications matter a lot. In short, they simply count the number of tier-one papers". Matter for what? Promotion to a higher grade, or some sort of assessment in case there is a probation period for you? If it is the former, you may have some/plenty-of time before you make the transition, everyone realizes it takes a little while for new faculty to get going in terms of a working-publishing group, so there might be an expected time-scale here. Also, is this criterion documented somewhere?
– 299792458
Apr 17 at 10:57
3
For contract renewal and eventually for promotion.
– lllllllllllll
Apr 17 at 11:03
@299792458 just some internal list but essentially comparable to csranking.org
– lllllllllllll
Apr 17 at 11:10
1
I do not have an answer and I would be skeptical of any answer. If there was an easy answer to this problem, then everyone could be a tenured full professor at an elite university.
– emory
Apr 17 at 21:17
2
2
"... number of top-tier publications matter a lot. In short, they simply count the number of tier-one papers". Matter for what? Promotion to a higher grade, or some sort of assessment in case there is a probation period for you? If it is the former, you may have some/plenty-of time before you make the transition, everyone realizes it takes a little while for new faculty to get going in terms of a working-publishing group, so there might be an expected time-scale here. Also, is this criterion documented somewhere?
– 299792458
Apr 17 at 10:57
"... number of top-tier publications matter a lot. In short, they simply count the number of tier-one papers". Matter for what? Promotion to a higher grade, or some sort of assessment in case there is a probation period for you? If it is the former, you may have some/plenty-of time before you make the transition, everyone realizes it takes a little while for new faculty to get going in terms of a working-publishing group, so there might be an expected time-scale here. Also, is this criterion documented somewhere?
– 299792458
Apr 17 at 10:57
3
3
For contract renewal and eventually for promotion.
– lllllllllllll
Apr 17 at 11:03
For contract renewal and eventually for promotion.
– lllllllllllll
Apr 17 at 11:03
@299792458 just some internal list but essentially comparable to csranking.org
– lllllllllllll
Apr 17 at 11:10
@299792458 just some internal list but essentially comparable to csranking.org
– lllllllllllll
Apr 17 at 11:10
1
1
I do not have an answer and I would be skeptical of any answer. If there was an easy answer to this problem, then everyone could be a tenured full professor at an elite university.
– emory
Apr 17 at 21:17
I do not have an answer and I would be skeptical of any answer. If there was an easy answer to this problem, then everyone could be a tenured full professor at an elite university.
– emory
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Here two pieces of advice:
- As a mid/long term perspective you should build a large network with
bright people. In the beginning talk to as many as possible. Tell
them about your ideas and ask them about theirs. This will lead to a lot of collaborative papers. Don't waste too much time with people who are reluctant. Most people will be very open (especially the younger ones). - Do this also with people who are not working in exactly your field. There might be a lot of low hanging fruits to collect i.e. something that is easy for you to do but not for them or vice versa. There is hardly any type of research field that would not like to get some input from CS (buzzword "data science"). e.g. Experimental biologists here or people working in business or geography etc. This will not lead to first-authorships but possibly get your name on many papers by putting only few days of work in.
2
Younger (or more accurately, inexperienced) people can also be reluctant to share their ideas because they are scared of their ideas being stolen.
– mrm
Apr 18 at 9:26
1
To the second point - it could very well lead to first authorships, especially if you are collaborating with people from other fields. At least in data mining, ML, and vision within CS, helping other domains solve their problems often gives rise to novel methods in your own field. Katie Bouman, a computer scientist that helped image the black hole, wasn't a physicist. She even gave a TED talk where she talked about how the collaboration was important to her success. Collaborating with other domains is also what my advisor's lab is all about.
– kjacks21
Apr 18 at 12:54
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
– lllllllllllll
Apr 23 at 11:45
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So besides "working hard", what are some tips, comments and advices on start to setting up a "publication pipeline"?
As Lordy's answer points out, the key to a regular stream of publications is a healthy network of collaborators: external collaborators but also the students or postdocs that you supervise and consequenly who follow your research agenda. So to some extent a sustainable publication pipeline depends on maintaining a pool of PhD students or postdocs working with you. This usually depends on you getting some funding to pay them, by submitting applications to the appropriate funding bodies in your domain.
So the standard strategy goes like this:
- Follow the calls in your domain and submit applications regularly in order to ensure a stream of funding for the next years
- Fund some PhD students and/or postdocs on the grants awarded to you
- They follow your research agenda, carry out most of the exploratory work under your supervision and you co-author their papers
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
– lllllllllllll
Apr 23 at 11:45
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While collaboration is important, I would caution you to get too hung up on this. You want to avoid being the person that just hangs around in the middle of the publication list in many papers - in my experience people eventually develop a bad taste towards scientists that they perceive to be freeriders on other's top research.
Instead, in my experience the most important key to having a good pipeline, especially if you are in one of the more applied CS fields, is to have a clear research programme. If you have, say, three PhD students, try to make sure that there are synergies between their work. In the ideal case, none of your future students past the first one or two should start from a completely green field - develop a portfolio of prototypes, methods, and data sets that you and your students can build on in the future. In my experience, this drastically cuts down on the time needed to write an A+ paper - if you start from a completely green field, it can easily take a year or two to collect enough material to have a shot, but if most of the scaffolding (knowledge- and technology-wise) is already there, I have seen people churn out excellent papers in surprising small time. This also has the advantage that your different research strands will eventually build up to something larger than individual papers, which ultimately ends up more important in tenure and promotion evaluations than the pure number of papers.
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Good advice, but this will bear fruit over a time-scale. Once all the prototypes are in place, OP can even have two different levels plying within their group: a lower end, which keeps using developed prototypes in more and more "novel contexts", and an upper end, where they work on fresh problems and develop more prototypes to fuel the lower end. :)
– 299792458
Apr 17 at 17:26
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Here two pieces of advice:
- As a mid/long term perspective you should build a large network with
bright people. In the beginning talk to as many as possible. Tell
them about your ideas and ask them about theirs. This will lead to a lot of collaborative papers. Don't waste too much time with people who are reluctant. Most people will be very open (especially the younger ones). - Do this also with people who are not working in exactly your field. There might be a lot of low hanging fruits to collect i.e. something that is easy for you to do but not for them or vice versa. There is hardly any type of research field that would not like to get some input from CS (buzzword "data science"). e.g. Experimental biologists here or people working in business or geography etc. This will not lead to first-authorships but possibly get your name on many papers by putting only few days of work in.
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Younger (or more accurately, inexperienced) people can also be reluctant to share their ideas because they are scared of their ideas being stolen.
– mrm
Apr 18 at 9:26
1
To the second point - it could very well lead to first authorships, especially if you are collaborating with people from other fields. At least in data mining, ML, and vision within CS, helping other domains solve their problems often gives rise to novel methods in your own field. Katie Bouman, a computer scientist that helped image the black hole, wasn't a physicist. She even gave a TED talk where she talked about how the collaboration was important to her success. Collaborating with other domains is also what my advisor's lab is all about.
– kjacks21
Apr 18 at 12:54
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
– lllllllllllll
Apr 23 at 11:45
add a comment
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Here two pieces of advice:
- As a mid/long term perspective you should build a large network with
bright people. In the beginning talk to as many as possible. Tell
them about your ideas and ask them about theirs. This will lead to a lot of collaborative papers. Don't waste too much time with people who are reluctant. Most people will be very open (especially the younger ones). - Do this also with people who are not working in exactly your field. There might be a lot of low hanging fruits to collect i.e. something that is easy for you to do but not for them or vice versa. There is hardly any type of research field that would not like to get some input from CS (buzzword "data science"). e.g. Experimental biologists here or people working in business or geography etc. This will not lead to first-authorships but possibly get your name on many papers by putting only few days of work in.
2
Younger (or more accurately, inexperienced) people can also be reluctant to share their ideas because they are scared of their ideas being stolen.
– mrm
Apr 18 at 9:26
1
To the second point - it could very well lead to first authorships, especially if you are collaborating with people from other fields. At least in data mining, ML, and vision within CS, helping other domains solve their problems often gives rise to novel methods in your own field. Katie Bouman, a computer scientist that helped image the black hole, wasn't a physicist. She even gave a TED talk where she talked about how the collaboration was important to her success. Collaborating with other domains is also what my advisor's lab is all about.
– kjacks21
Apr 18 at 12:54
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
– lllllllllllll
Apr 23 at 11:45
add a comment
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Here two pieces of advice:
- As a mid/long term perspective you should build a large network with
bright people. In the beginning talk to as many as possible. Tell
them about your ideas and ask them about theirs. This will lead to a lot of collaborative papers. Don't waste too much time with people who are reluctant. Most people will be very open (especially the younger ones). - Do this also with people who are not working in exactly your field. There might be a lot of low hanging fruits to collect i.e. something that is easy for you to do but not for them or vice versa. There is hardly any type of research field that would not like to get some input from CS (buzzword "data science"). e.g. Experimental biologists here or people working in business or geography etc. This will not lead to first-authorships but possibly get your name on many papers by putting only few days of work in.
Here two pieces of advice:
- As a mid/long term perspective you should build a large network with
bright people. In the beginning talk to as many as possible. Tell
them about your ideas and ask them about theirs. This will lead to a lot of collaborative papers. Don't waste too much time with people who are reluctant. Most people will be very open (especially the younger ones). - Do this also with people who are not working in exactly your field. There might be a lot of low hanging fruits to collect i.e. something that is easy for you to do but not for them or vice versa. There is hardly any type of research field that would not like to get some input from CS (buzzword "data science"). e.g. Experimental biologists here or people working in business or geography etc. This will not lead to first-authorships but possibly get your name on many papers by putting only few days of work in.
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Younger (or more accurately, inexperienced) people can also be reluctant to share their ideas because they are scared of their ideas being stolen.
– mrm
Apr 18 at 9:26
1
To the second point - it could very well lead to first authorships, especially if you are collaborating with people from other fields. At least in data mining, ML, and vision within CS, helping other domains solve their problems often gives rise to novel methods in your own field. Katie Bouman, a computer scientist that helped image the black hole, wasn't a physicist. She even gave a TED talk where she talked about how the collaboration was important to her success. Collaborating with other domains is also what my advisor's lab is all about.
– kjacks21
Apr 18 at 12:54
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
– lllllllllllll
Apr 23 at 11:45
add a comment
|
2
Younger (or more accurately, inexperienced) people can also be reluctant to share their ideas because they are scared of their ideas being stolen.
– mrm
Apr 18 at 9:26
1
To the second point - it could very well lead to first authorships, especially if you are collaborating with people from other fields. At least in data mining, ML, and vision within CS, helping other domains solve their problems often gives rise to novel methods in your own field. Katie Bouman, a computer scientist that helped image the black hole, wasn't a physicist. She even gave a TED talk where she talked about how the collaboration was important to her success. Collaborating with other domains is also what my advisor's lab is all about.
– kjacks21
Apr 18 at 12:54
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
– lllllllllllll
Apr 23 at 11:45
2
2
Younger (or more accurately, inexperienced) people can also be reluctant to share their ideas because they are scared of their ideas being stolen.
– mrm
Apr 18 at 9:26
Younger (or more accurately, inexperienced) people can also be reluctant to share their ideas because they are scared of their ideas being stolen.
– mrm
Apr 18 at 9:26
1
1
To the second point - it could very well lead to first authorships, especially if you are collaborating with people from other fields. At least in data mining, ML, and vision within CS, helping other domains solve their problems often gives rise to novel methods in your own field. Katie Bouman, a computer scientist that helped image the black hole, wasn't a physicist. She even gave a TED talk where she talked about how the collaboration was important to her success. Collaborating with other domains is also what my advisor's lab is all about.
– kjacks21
Apr 18 at 12:54
To the second point - it could very well lead to first authorships, especially if you are collaborating with people from other fields. At least in data mining, ML, and vision within CS, helping other domains solve their problems often gives rise to novel methods in your own field. Katie Bouman, a computer scientist that helped image the black hole, wasn't a physicist. She even gave a TED talk where she talked about how the collaboration was important to her success. Collaborating with other domains is also what my advisor's lab is all about.
– kjacks21
Apr 18 at 12:54
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
– lllllllllllll
Apr 23 at 11:45
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
– lllllllllllll
Apr 23 at 11:45
add a comment
|
So besides "working hard", what are some tips, comments and advices on start to setting up a "publication pipeline"?
As Lordy's answer points out, the key to a regular stream of publications is a healthy network of collaborators: external collaborators but also the students or postdocs that you supervise and consequenly who follow your research agenda. So to some extent a sustainable publication pipeline depends on maintaining a pool of PhD students or postdocs working with you. This usually depends on you getting some funding to pay them, by submitting applications to the appropriate funding bodies in your domain.
So the standard strategy goes like this:
- Follow the calls in your domain and submit applications regularly in order to ensure a stream of funding for the next years
- Fund some PhD students and/or postdocs on the grants awarded to you
- They follow your research agenda, carry out most of the exploratory work under your supervision and you co-author their papers
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
– lllllllllllll
Apr 23 at 11:45
add a comment
|
So besides "working hard", what are some tips, comments and advices on start to setting up a "publication pipeline"?
As Lordy's answer points out, the key to a regular stream of publications is a healthy network of collaborators: external collaborators but also the students or postdocs that you supervise and consequenly who follow your research agenda. So to some extent a sustainable publication pipeline depends on maintaining a pool of PhD students or postdocs working with you. This usually depends on you getting some funding to pay them, by submitting applications to the appropriate funding bodies in your domain.
So the standard strategy goes like this:
- Follow the calls in your domain and submit applications regularly in order to ensure a stream of funding for the next years
- Fund some PhD students and/or postdocs on the grants awarded to you
- They follow your research agenda, carry out most of the exploratory work under your supervision and you co-author their papers
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
– lllllllllllll
Apr 23 at 11:45
add a comment
|
So besides "working hard", what are some tips, comments and advices on start to setting up a "publication pipeline"?
As Lordy's answer points out, the key to a regular stream of publications is a healthy network of collaborators: external collaborators but also the students or postdocs that you supervise and consequenly who follow your research agenda. So to some extent a sustainable publication pipeline depends on maintaining a pool of PhD students or postdocs working with you. This usually depends on you getting some funding to pay them, by submitting applications to the appropriate funding bodies in your domain.
So the standard strategy goes like this:
- Follow the calls in your domain and submit applications regularly in order to ensure a stream of funding for the next years
- Fund some PhD students and/or postdocs on the grants awarded to you
- They follow your research agenda, carry out most of the exploratory work under your supervision and you co-author their papers
So besides "working hard", what are some tips, comments and advices on start to setting up a "publication pipeline"?
As Lordy's answer points out, the key to a regular stream of publications is a healthy network of collaborators: external collaborators but also the students or postdocs that you supervise and consequenly who follow your research agenda. So to some extent a sustainable publication pipeline depends on maintaining a pool of PhD students or postdocs working with you. This usually depends on you getting some funding to pay them, by submitting applications to the appropriate funding bodies in your domain.
So the standard strategy goes like this:
- Follow the calls in your domain and submit applications regularly in order to ensure a stream of funding for the next years
- Fund some PhD students and/or postdocs on the grants awarded to you
- They follow your research agenda, carry out most of the exploratory work under your supervision and you co-author their papers
answered Apr 17 at 14:21
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While collaboration is important, I would caution you to get too hung up on this. You want to avoid being the person that just hangs around in the middle of the publication list in many papers - in my experience people eventually develop a bad taste towards scientists that they perceive to be freeriders on other's top research.
Instead, in my experience the most important key to having a good pipeline, especially if you are in one of the more applied CS fields, is to have a clear research programme. If you have, say, three PhD students, try to make sure that there are synergies between their work. In the ideal case, none of your future students past the first one or two should start from a completely green field - develop a portfolio of prototypes, methods, and data sets that you and your students can build on in the future. In my experience, this drastically cuts down on the time needed to write an A+ paper - if you start from a completely green field, it can easily take a year or two to collect enough material to have a shot, but if most of the scaffolding (knowledge- and technology-wise) is already there, I have seen people churn out excellent papers in surprising small time. This also has the advantage that your different research strands will eventually build up to something larger than individual papers, which ultimately ends up more important in tenure and promotion evaluations than the pure number of papers.
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Good advice, but this will bear fruit over a time-scale. Once all the prototypes are in place, OP can even have two different levels plying within their group: a lower end, which keeps using developed prototypes in more and more "novel contexts", and an upper end, where they work on fresh problems and develop more prototypes to fuel the lower end. :)
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While collaboration is important, I would caution you to get too hung up on this. You want to avoid being the person that just hangs around in the middle of the publication list in many papers - in my experience people eventually develop a bad taste towards scientists that they perceive to be freeriders on other's top research.
Instead, in my experience the most important key to having a good pipeline, especially if you are in one of the more applied CS fields, is to have a clear research programme. If you have, say, three PhD students, try to make sure that there are synergies between their work. In the ideal case, none of your future students past the first one or two should start from a completely green field - develop a portfolio of prototypes, methods, and data sets that you and your students can build on in the future. In my experience, this drastically cuts down on the time needed to write an A+ paper - if you start from a completely green field, it can easily take a year or two to collect enough material to have a shot, but if most of the scaffolding (knowledge- and technology-wise) is already there, I have seen people churn out excellent papers in surprising small time. This also has the advantage that your different research strands will eventually build up to something larger than individual papers, which ultimately ends up more important in tenure and promotion evaluations than the pure number of papers.
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Good advice, but this will bear fruit over a time-scale. Once all the prototypes are in place, OP can even have two different levels plying within their group: a lower end, which keeps using developed prototypes in more and more "novel contexts", and an upper end, where they work on fresh problems and develop more prototypes to fuel the lower end. :)
– 299792458
Apr 17 at 17:26
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While collaboration is important, I would caution you to get too hung up on this. You want to avoid being the person that just hangs around in the middle of the publication list in many papers - in my experience people eventually develop a bad taste towards scientists that they perceive to be freeriders on other's top research.
Instead, in my experience the most important key to having a good pipeline, especially if you are in one of the more applied CS fields, is to have a clear research programme. If you have, say, three PhD students, try to make sure that there are synergies between their work. In the ideal case, none of your future students past the first one or two should start from a completely green field - develop a portfolio of prototypes, methods, and data sets that you and your students can build on in the future. In my experience, this drastically cuts down on the time needed to write an A+ paper - if you start from a completely green field, it can easily take a year or two to collect enough material to have a shot, but if most of the scaffolding (knowledge- and technology-wise) is already there, I have seen people churn out excellent papers in surprising small time. This also has the advantage that your different research strands will eventually build up to something larger than individual papers, which ultimately ends up more important in tenure and promotion evaluations than the pure number of papers.
While collaboration is important, I would caution you to get too hung up on this. You want to avoid being the person that just hangs around in the middle of the publication list in many papers - in my experience people eventually develop a bad taste towards scientists that they perceive to be freeriders on other's top research.
Instead, in my experience the most important key to having a good pipeline, especially if you are in one of the more applied CS fields, is to have a clear research programme. If you have, say, three PhD students, try to make sure that there are synergies between their work. In the ideal case, none of your future students past the first one or two should start from a completely green field - develop a portfolio of prototypes, methods, and data sets that you and your students can build on in the future. In my experience, this drastically cuts down on the time needed to write an A+ paper - if you start from a completely green field, it can easily take a year or two to collect enough material to have a shot, but if most of the scaffolding (knowledge- and technology-wise) is already there, I have seen people churn out excellent papers in surprising small time. This also has the advantage that your different research strands will eventually build up to something larger than individual papers, which ultimately ends up more important in tenure and promotion evaluations than the pure number of papers.
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Good advice, but this will bear fruit over a time-scale. Once all the prototypes are in place, OP can even have two different levels plying within their group: a lower end, which keeps using developed prototypes in more and more "novel contexts", and an upper end, where they work on fresh problems and develop more prototypes to fuel the lower end. :)
– 299792458
Apr 17 at 17:26
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
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Apr 23 at 11:45
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Good advice, but this will bear fruit over a time-scale. Once all the prototypes are in place, OP can even have two different levels plying within their group: a lower end, which keeps using developed prototypes in more and more "novel contexts", and an upper end, where they work on fresh problems and develop more prototypes to fuel the lower end. :)
– 299792458
Apr 17 at 17:26
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
– lllllllllllll
Apr 23 at 11:45
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Good advice, but this will bear fruit over a time-scale. Once all the prototypes are in place, OP can even have two different levels plying within their group: a lower end, which keeps using developed prototypes in more and more "novel contexts", and an upper end, where they work on fresh problems and develop more prototypes to fuel the lower end. :)
– 299792458
Apr 17 at 17:26
Good advice, but this will bear fruit over a time-scale. Once all the prototypes are in place, OP can even have two different levels plying within their group: a lower end, which keeps using developed prototypes in more and more "novel contexts", and an upper end, where they work on fresh problems and develop more prototypes to fuel the lower end. :)
– 299792458
Apr 17 at 17:26
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
– lllllllllllll
Apr 23 at 11:45
thank you for the kind advice. I appreciate it very much!
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"... number of top-tier publications matter a lot. In short, they simply count the number of tier-one papers". Matter for what? Promotion to a higher grade, or some sort of assessment in case there is a probation period for you? If it is the former, you may have some/plenty-of time before you make the transition, everyone realizes it takes a little while for new faculty to get going in terms of a working-publishing group, so there might be an expected time-scale here. Also, is this criterion documented somewhere?
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