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What sections should I include in the Project Description section of my NSF grant proposal?Choosing appropriate words for lay summary of a health research projectWriting a thesis proposalDecline fellowship offer after writing proposal togetherAre there any reasons or benefits for the very long process of reviewing grant proposal?What to do about a proposed research idea during the waiting period after submitting a grant proposal?






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I am a newbie to proposal writing although have been writing research papers for several years. After the rejection of my first NSF proposal, I am becoming aware that the proposal language is quite different from research paper language, where the later one emphasizes on its accuracy and objective, while the former one, according to my current understanding, needs more fine-tuning on the "tone and the sales pitch".



I guess that's where the decoration of language could come into play. Could anyone shed some lights certain systematic approach such that I can train myself and master the needed skills? Or, is there any systematic approach that can quickly turn my research paper-style proposal by setting the mood and tone as a "sales pitch."



I am not a native speaker and that could be hard, I guess. Any suggestions would be appreciated very much.










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    @AnonymousPhysicist That isn't true in all circumstances. One knows exactly who is on the European Research Council grant panels, for example: erc.europa.eu/document-category/evaluation-panels

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    In Australia, you know who are the college of experts or who are on the grant panel. However, you have no idea who will get your proposal. Also, proposals are sent to anonymous reviewers. So you know who might champion your proposal but you don't know the reviewers.

    – Prof. Santa Claus
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    @AnonymousPhysicist The same people stay on the panel for a set number of years (I think it's 6?), divided into two sets who alternate each year. Thus when I did mine last year I knew exactly who would be reading the grant and who would be in the room doing the interview.

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I am a newbie to proposal writing although have been writing research papers for several years. After the rejection of my first NSF proposal, I am becoming aware that the proposal language is quite different from research paper language, where the later one emphasizes on its accuracy and objective, while the former one, according to my current understanding, needs more fine-tuning on the "tone and the sales pitch".



I guess that's where the decoration of language could come into play. Could anyone shed some lights certain systematic approach such that I can train myself and master the needed skills? Or, is there any systematic approach that can quickly turn my research paper-style proposal by setting the mood and tone as a "sales pitch."



I am not a native speaker and that could be hard, I guess. Any suggestions would be appreciated very much.










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  • I would not believe anyone who claims to have an answer to this. Each reviewer will have a different attitude, and you do not know who they will be.

    – Anonymous Physicist
    Sep 28 at 10:53











  • Great question. Very important, indeed.

    – henning -- reinstate Monica
    Sep 28 at 12:44






  • 4





    @AnonymousPhysicist That isn't true in all circumstances. One knows exactly who is on the European Research Council grant panels, for example: erc.europa.eu/document-category/evaluation-panels

    – GrotesqueSI
    Sep 28 at 17:32






  • 1





    In Australia, you know who are the college of experts or who are on the grant panel. However, you have no idea who will get your proposal. Also, proposals are sent to anonymous reviewers. So you know who might champion your proposal but you don't know the reviewers.

    – Prof. Santa Claus
    Sep 29 at 4:12






  • 1





    @AnonymousPhysicist The same people stay on the panel for a set number of years (I think it's 6?), divided into two sets who alternate each year. Thus when I did mine last year I knew exactly who would be reading the grant and who would be in the room doing the interview.

    – GrotesqueSI
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I am a newbie to proposal writing although have been writing research papers for several years. After the rejection of my first NSF proposal, I am becoming aware that the proposal language is quite different from research paper language, where the later one emphasizes on its accuracy and objective, while the former one, according to my current understanding, needs more fine-tuning on the "tone and the sales pitch".



I guess that's where the decoration of language could come into play. Could anyone shed some lights certain systematic approach such that I can train myself and master the needed skills? Or, is there any systematic approach that can quickly turn my research paper-style proposal by setting the mood and tone as a "sales pitch."



I am not a native speaker and that could be hard, I guess. Any suggestions would be appreciated very much.










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I am a newbie to proposal writing although have been writing research papers for several years. After the rejection of my first NSF proposal, I am becoming aware that the proposal language is quite different from research paper language, where the later one emphasizes on its accuracy and objective, while the former one, according to my current understanding, needs more fine-tuning on the "tone and the sales pitch".



I guess that's where the decoration of language could come into play. Could anyone shed some lights certain systematic approach such that I can train myself and master the needed skills? Or, is there any systematic approach that can quickly turn my research paper-style proposal by setting the mood and tone as a "sales pitch."



I am not a native speaker and that could be hard, I guess. Any suggestions would be appreciated very much.








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  • I would not believe anyone who claims to have an answer to this. Each reviewer will have a different attitude, and you do not know who they will be.

    – Anonymous Physicist
    Sep 28 at 10:53











  • Great question. Very important, indeed.

    – henning -- reinstate Monica
    Sep 28 at 12:44






  • 4





    @AnonymousPhysicist That isn't true in all circumstances. One knows exactly who is on the European Research Council grant panels, for example: erc.europa.eu/document-category/evaluation-panels

    – GrotesqueSI
    Sep 28 at 17:32






  • 1





    In Australia, you know who are the college of experts or who are on the grant panel. However, you have no idea who will get your proposal. Also, proposals are sent to anonymous reviewers. So you know who might champion your proposal but you don't know the reviewers.

    – Prof. Santa Claus
    Sep 29 at 4:12






  • 1





    @AnonymousPhysicist The same people stay on the panel for a set number of years (I think it's 6?), divided into two sets who alternate each year. Thus when I did mine last year I knew exactly who would be reading the grant and who would be in the room doing the interview.

    – GrotesqueSI
    Sep 29 at 7:08

















  • I would not believe anyone who claims to have an answer to this. Each reviewer will have a different attitude, and you do not know who they will be.

    – Anonymous Physicist
    Sep 28 at 10:53











  • Great question. Very important, indeed.

    – henning -- reinstate Monica
    Sep 28 at 12:44






  • 4





    @AnonymousPhysicist That isn't true in all circumstances. One knows exactly who is on the European Research Council grant panels, for example: erc.europa.eu/document-category/evaluation-panels

    – GrotesqueSI
    Sep 28 at 17:32






  • 1





    In Australia, you know who are the college of experts or who are on the grant panel. However, you have no idea who will get your proposal. Also, proposals are sent to anonymous reviewers. So you know who might champion your proposal but you don't know the reviewers.

    – Prof. Santa Claus
    Sep 29 at 4:12






  • 1





    @AnonymousPhysicist The same people stay on the panel for a set number of years (I think it's 6?), divided into two sets who alternate each year. Thus when I did mine last year I knew exactly who would be reading the grant and who would be in the room doing the interview.

    – GrotesqueSI
    Sep 29 at 7:08
















I would not believe anyone who claims to have an answer to this. Each reviewer will have a different attitude, and you do not know who they will be.

– Anonymous Physicist
Sep 28 at 10:53





I would not believe anyone who claims to have an answer to this. Each reviewer will have a different attitude, and you do not know who they will be.

– Anonymous Physicist
Sep 28 at 10:53













Great question. Very important, indeed.

– henning -- reinstate Monica
Sep 28 at 12:44





Great question. Very important, indeed.

– henning -- reinstate Monica
Sep 28 at 12:44




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@AnonymousPhysicist That isn't true in all circumstances. One knows exactly who is on the European Research Council grant panels, for example: erc.europa.eu/document-category/evaluation-panels

– GrotesqueSI
Sep 28 at 17:32





@AnonymousPhysicist That isn't true in all circumstances. One knows exactly who is on the European Research Council grant panels, for example: erc.europa.eu/document-category/evaluation-panels

– GrotesqueSI
Sep 28 at 17:32




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In Australia, you know who are the college of experts or who are on the grant panel. However, you have no idea who will get your proposal. Also, proposals are sent to anonymous reviewers. So you know who might champion your proposal but you don't know the reviewers.

– Prof. Santa Claus
Sep 29 at 4:12





In Australia, you know who are the college of experts or who are on the grant panel. However, you have no idea who will get your proposal. Also, proposals are sent to anonymous reviewers. So you know who might champion your proposal but you don't know the reviewers.

– Prof. Santa Claus
Sep 29 at 4:12




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@AnonymousPhysicist The same people stay on the panel for a set number of years (I think it's 6?), divided into two sets who alternate each year. Thus when I did mine last year I knew exactly who would be reading the grant and who would be in the room doing the interview.

– GrotesqueSI
Sep 29 at 7:08





@AnonymousPhysicist The same people stay on the panel for a set number of years (I think it's 6?), divided into two sets who alternate each year. Thus when I did mine last year I knew exactly who would be reading the grant and who would be in the room doing the interview.

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While not quite the systematic solution you are looking for (which I don't think exists) here are some ideas. This is a matter of knowing your audience and a matter of practice. I suggest that you do a combination of all of them:



  1. Review Grant Proposals. I warn I speak from the UK system so things are certainly a bit different elsewhere, but there exist a number of opportunities to serve as an expert reviewer for grant proposals. You may be at an early career level, but some granting bodies specifically seek out early career reviewers (e.g. the AHRC peer review college in the UK is one example). Contact granting bodies directly and ask to be added to their database of reviewers and when you are asked to review grants, pay very close attention, first, to the standards against which you are meant to review, and, indeed, what works on you...what type of writing in the proposals wins you over. Attend any training days etc that the granting body offers for reviewers. I do note that you are in the USA, but I've peer reviewed Fulbright and other USA-based proposals, so the opportunities are there.


  2. Read successful grant proposals. Read a lot of them. Note the style and tone of the language. If you have a colleague or friend who has had a successful NSF, ask to see their proposal. Contact your University's research office and ask for copies of any successful large grants. You may think that this is crossing a boundary or that people don't want to share their grant proposals, but it is totally normal. I was successful at applying for a very large (€1.5mil) grant last year and over the course of the year I must have shared my proposals with 30 other scholars who wish to apply to the same scheme. I have done the same with previous successful grant proposals.


  3. Familiarise yourself with the differences between granting bodies as this will govern the language style and tone you should use. Funding bodies that want to fund blue skies, high risk-high reward research tend to like language that fits the edgy nature of the grant. Funding bodies that prefer you to, essentially, know the outcome before you start like assurances and less "excited" language. When in doubt, you can talk to the grant manager about the motivation behind the grant and then think about how that might translate into your language.


  4. Lean on whatever resources are at your University. That might be the research support office or equivalent. It might even mean an external consultant that the university hires to help develop and prepare grants. Make sure you know what is on offer and take whatever is available.


Good luck!






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    I think it's a mistake (albeit a common one) to think that succeeding at proposal writing is a matter of "tone and sales pitch", or equivalently of knowing the lingo and inserting the right amount of buzzwords. It might look like this and maybe there's a bit of it sometimes, but most of the time the main issue is to demonstrate the impact of the research in terms of the funding body and/or call objectives.



    That often requires a lot of work: reading and understanding the strategy of the funding body both in general and under the specific targeted call; understanding which specific impact they are looking for and in which way they'd like to see this impact delivered; analyzing similar projects funded in the past in order to understand why they were granted; finding the right collaborators to convince the funding body that the plan is solid; etc.



    A typical problem is that as academics we tend to see research as a goal for itself and we are not necessarily interested in its applications down the line. Funding bodies are not only interested in giving money so that researchers can do their research. Of course the quality of the research matters a lot, but they don't evaluate projects solely on the number of potential publications, they want to maximize their return on investment. Understanding exactly their specific expectation (and finding a way to satisfy it) is key.






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      While not quite the systematic solution you are looking for (which I don't think exists) here are some ideas. This is a matter of knowing your audience and a matter of practice. I suggest that you do a combination of all of them:



      1. Review Grant Proposals. I warn I speak from the UK system so things are certainly a bit different elsewhere, but there exist a number of opportunities to serve as an expert reviewer for grant proposals. You may be at an early career level, but some granting bodies specifically seek out early career reviewers (e.g. the AHRC peer review college in the UK is one example). Contact granting bodies directly and ask to be added to their database of reviewers and when you are asked to review grants, pay very close attention, first, to the standards against which you are meant to review, and, indeed, what works on you...what type of writing in the proposals wins you over. Attend any training days etc that the granting body offers for reviewers. I do note that you are in the USA, but I've peer reviewed Fulbright and other USA-based proposals, so the opportunities are there.


      2. Read successful grant proposals. Read a lot of them. Note the style and tone of the language. If you have a colleague or friend who has had a successful NSF, ask to see their proposal. Contact your University's research office and ask for copies of any successful large grants. You may think that this is crossing a boundary or that people don't want to share their grant proposals, but it is totally normal. I was successful at applying for a very large (€1.5mil) grant last year and over the course of the year I must have shared my proposals with 30 other scholars who wish to apply to the same scheme. I have done the same with previous successful grant proposals.


      3. Familiarise yourself with the differences between granting bodies as this will govern the language style and tone you should use. Funding bodies that want to fund blue skies, high risk-high reward research tend to like language that fits the edgy nature of the grant. Funding bodies that prefer you to, essentially, know the outcome before you start like assurances and less "excited" language. When in doubt, you can talk to the grant manager about the motivation behind the grant and then think about how that might translate into your language.


      4. Lean on whatever resources are at your University. That might be the research support office or equivalent. It might even mean an external consultant that the university hires to help develop and prepare grants. Make sure you know what is on offer and take whatever is available.


      Good luck!






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        While not quite the systematic solution you are looking for (which I don't think exists) here are some ideas. This is a matter of knowing your audience and a matter of practice. I suggest that you do a combination of all of them:



        1. Review Grant Proposals. I warn I speak from the UK system so things are certainly a bit different elsewhere, but there exist a number of opportunities to serve as an expert reviewer for grant proposals. You may be at an early career level, but some granting bodies specifically seek out early career reviewers (e.g. the AHRC peer review college in the UK is one example). Contact granting bodies directly and ask to be added to their database of reviewers and when you are asked to review grants, pay very close attention, first, to the standards against which you are meant to review, and, indeed, what works on you...what type of writing in the proposals wins you over. Attend any training days etc that the granting body offers for reviewers. I do note that you are in the USA, but I've peer reviewed Fulbright and other USA-based proposals, so the opportunities are there.


        2. Read successful grant proposals. Read a lot of them. Note the style and tone of the language. If you have a colleague or friend who has had a successful NSF, ask to see their proposal. Contact your University's research office and ask for copies of any successful large grants. You may think that this is crossing a boundary or that people don't want to share their grant proposals, but it is totally normal. I was successful at applying for a very large (€1.5mil) grant last year and over the course of the year I must have shared my proposals with 30 other scholars who wish to apply to the same scheme. I have done the same with previous successful grant proposals.


        3. Familiarise yourself with the differences between granting bodies as this will govern the language style and tone you should use. Funding bodies that want to fund blue skies, high risk-high reward research tend to like language that fits the edgy nature of the grant. Funding bodies that prefer you to, essentially, know the outcome before you start like assurances and less "excited" language. When in doubt, you can talk to the grant manager about the motivation behind the grant and then think about how that might translate into your language.


        4. Lean on whatever resources are at your University. That might be the research support office or equivalent. It might even mean an external consultant that the university hires to help develop and prepare grants. Make sure you know what is on offer and take whatever is available.


        Good luck!






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          While not quite the systematic solution you are looking for (which I don't think exists) here are some ideas. This is a matter of knowing your audience and a matter of practice. I suggest that you do a combination of all of them:



          1. Review Grant Proposals. I warn I speak from the UK system so things are certainly a bit different elsewhere, but there exist a number of opportunities to serve as an expert reviewer for grant proposals. You may be at an early career level, but some granting bodies specifically seek out early career reviewers (e.g. the AHRC peer review college in the UK is one example). Contact granting bodies directly and ask to be added to their database of reviewers and when you are asked to review grants, pay very close attention, first, to the standards against which you are meant to review, and, indeed, what works on you...what type of writing in the proposals wins you over. Attend any training days etc that the granting body offers for reviewers. I do note that you are in the USA, but I've peer reviewed Fulbright and other USA-based proposals, so the opportunities are there.


          2. Read successful grant proposals. Read a lot of them. Note the style and tone of the language. If you have a colleague or friend who has had a successful NSF, ask to see their proposal. Contact your University's research office and ask for copies of any successful large grants. You may think that this is crossing a boundary or that people don't want to share their grant proposals, but it is totally normal. I was successful at applying for a very large (€1.5mil) grant last year and over the course of the year I must have shared my proposals with 30 other scholars who wish to apply to the same scheme. I have done the same with previous successful grant proposals.


          3. Familiarise yourself with the differences between granting bodies as this will govern the language style and tone you should use. Funding bodies that want to fund blue skies, high risk-high reward research tend to like language that fits the edgy nature of the grant. Funding bodies that prefer you to, essentially, know the outcome before you start like assurances and less "excited" language. When in doubt, you can talk to the grant manager about the motivation behind the grant and then think about how that might translate into your language.


          4. Lean on whatever resources are at your University. That might be the research support office or equivalent. It might even mean an external consultant that the university hires to help develop and prepare grants. Make sure you know what is on offer and take whatever is available.


          Good luck!






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          While not quite the systematic solution you are looking for (which I don't think exists) here are some ideas. This is a matter of knowing your audience and a matter of practice. I suggest that you do a combination of all of them:



          1. Review Grant Proposals. I warn I speak from the UK system so things are certainly a bit different elsewhere, but there exist a number of opportunities to serve as an expert reviewer for grant proposals. You may be at an early career level, but some granting bodies specifically seek out early career reviewers (e.g. the AHRC peer review college in the UK is one example). Contact granting bodies directly and ask to be added to their database of reviewers and when you are asked to review grants, pay very close attention, first, to the standards against which you are meant to review, and, indeed, what works on you...what type of writing in the proposals wins you over. Attend any training days etc that the granting body offers for reviewers. I do note that you are in the USA, but I've peer reviewed Fulbright and other USA-based proposals, so the opportunities are there.


          2. Read successful grant proposals. Read a lot of them. Note the style and tone of the language. If you have a colleague or friend who has had a successful NSF, ask to see their proposal. Contact your University's research office and ask for copies of any successful large grants. You may think that this is crossing a boundary or that people don't want to share their grant proposals, but it is totally normal. I was successful at applying for a very large (€1.5mil) grant last year and over the course of the year I must have shared my proposals with 30 other scholars who wish to apply to the same scheme. I have done the same with previous successful grant proposals.


          3. Familiarise yourself with the differences between granting bodies as this will govern the language style and tone you should use. Funding bodies that want to fund blue skies, high risk-high reward research tend to like language that fits the edgy nature of the grant. Funding bodies that prefer you to, essentially, know the outcome before you start like assurances and less "excited" language. When in doubt, you can talk to the grant manager about the motivation behind the grant and then think about how that might translate into your language.


          4. Lean on whatever resources are at your University. That might be the research support office or equivalent. It might even mean an external consultant that the university hires to help develop and prepare grants. Make sure you know what is on offer and take whatever is available.


          Good luck!







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              I think it's a mistake (albeit a common one) to think that succeeding at proposal writing is a matter of "tone and sales pitch", or equivalently of knowing the lingo and inserting the right amount of buzzwords. It might look like this and maybe there's a bit of it sometimes, but most of the time the main issue is to demonstrate the impact of the research in terms of the funding body and/or call objectives.



              That often requires a lot of work: reading and understanding the strategy of the funding body both in general and under the specific targeted call; understanding which specific impact they are looking for and in which way they'd like to see this impact delivered; analyzing similar projects funded in the past in order to understand why they were granted; finding the right collaborators to convince the funding body that the plan is solid; etc.



              A typical problem is that as academics we tend to see research as a goal for itself and we are not necessarily interested in its applications down the line. Funding bodies are not only interested in giving money so that researchers can do their research. Of course the quality of the research matters a lot, but they don't evaluate projects solely on the number of potential publications, they want to maximize their return on investment. Understanding exactly their specific expectation (and finding a way to satisfy it) is key.






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                I think it's a mistake (albeit a common one) to think that succeeding at proposal writing is a matter of "tone and sales pitch", or equivalently of knowing the lingo and inserting the right amount of buzzwords. It might look like this and maybe there's a bit of it sometimes, but most of the time the main issue is to demonstrate the impact of the research in terms of the funding body and/or call objectives.



                That often requires a lot of work: reading and understanding the strategy of the funding body both in general and under the specific targeted call; understanding which specific impact they are looking for and in which way they'd like to see this impact delivered; analyzing similar projects funded in the past in order to understand why they were granted; finding the right collaborators to convince the funding body that the plan is solid; etc.



                A typical problem is that as academics we tend to see research as a goal for itself and we are not necessarily interested in its applications down the line. Funding bodies are not only interested in giving money so that researchers can do their research. Of course the quality of the research matters a lot, but they don't evaluate projects solely on the number of potential publications, they want to maximize their return on investment. Understanding exactly their specific expectation (and finding a way to satisfy it) is key.






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                  I think it's a mistake (albeit a common one) to think that succeeding at proposal writing is a matter of "tone and sales pitch", or equivalently of knowing the lingo and inserting the right amount of buzzwords. It might look like this and maybe there's a bit of it sometimes, but most of the time the main issue is to demonstrate the impact of the research in terms of the funding body and/or call objectives.



                  That often requires a lot of work: reading and understanding the strategy of the funding body both in general and under the specific targeted call; understanding which specific impact they are looking for and in which way they'd like to see this impact delivered; analyzing similar projects funded in the past in order to understand why they were granted; finding the right collaborators to convince the funding body that the plan is solid; etc.



                  A typical problem is that as academics we tend to see research as a goal for itself and we are not necessarily interested in its applications down the line. Funding bodies are not only interested in giving money so that researchers can do their research. Of course the quality of the research matters a lot, but they don't evaluate projects solely on the number of potential publications, they want to maximize their return on investment. Understanding exactly their specific expectation (and finding a way to satisfy it) is key.






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                  I think it's a mistake (albeit a common one) to think that succeeding at proposal writing is a matter of "tone and sales pitch", or equivalently of knowing the lingo and inserting the right amount of buzzwords. It might look like this and maybe there's a bit of it sometimes, but most of the time the main issue is to demonstrate the impact of the research in terms of the funding body and/or call objectives.



                  That often requires a lot of work: reading and understanding the strategy of the funding body both in general and under the specific targeted call; understanding which specific impact they are looking for and in which way they'd like to see this impact delivered; analyzing similar projects funded in the past in order to understand why they were granted; finding the right collaborators to convince the funding body that the plan is solid; etc.



                  A typical problem is that as academics we tend to see research as a goal for itself and we are not necessarily interested in its applications down the line. Funding bodies are not only interested in giving money so that researchers can do their research. Of course the quality of the research matters a lot, but they don't evaluate projects solely on the number of potential publications, they want to maximize their return on investment. Understanding exactly their specific expectation (and finding a way to satisfy it) is key.







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