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Copycat chess is back
The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InCopycat Chess (Part 3/3)Copycat Chess (Part 2/3)Copycat Chess (Part 1/3)Chess with symmetric move-squareThe Erasmus rook tourCan you stop the rambling rook?No More Kings puzzleGetting rid of all chess pieces (except the kings) in a sequence consisting only of capturesA Chess Puzzle in ReverseA Battle of Dysfunctional Kings (Chess)The Fastest Queen Trap (Chess)Loser Chess : another proof gameThe Chess 24 GameHow many total checkmates can you possibly make against the enemy king?
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This puzzle is inspired by and has similar rules to the series of puzzles by Sleafar.
Definition. A copycat chess opening is a sequence of moves starting from the conventional starting position, where every move by White (including the last one) is copied by Black identically, resulting in a symmetrical position with respect to the mid-horizontal axis. Every move must be legal, but the last move doesn't have to be checkmate, hence the name opening instead of game.
What is the shortest copycat chess opening in which a rook captures another rook?
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asked 2 days ago
Arnaud MortierArnaud Mortier
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This puzzle is inspired by and has similar rules to the series of puzzles by Sleafar.
Definition. A copycat chess opening is a sequence of moves starting from the conventional starting position, where every move by White (including the last one) is copied by Black identically, resulting in a symmetrical position with respect to the mid-horizontal axis. Every move must be legal, but the last move doesn't have to be checkmate, hence the name opening instead of game.
What is the shortest copycat chess opening in which a rook captures another rook?
chess
asked 2 days ago
Arnaud MortierArnaud Mortier
2,171827
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Does it need to be symmetrical up to the rook capture or after the rook capture?
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J every move, including the last one...
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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This puzzle is inspired by and has similar rules to the series of puzzles by Sleafar.
Definition. A copycat chess opening is a sequence of moves starting from the conventional starting position, where every move by White (including the last one) is copied by Black identically, resulting in a symmetrical position with respect to the mid-horizontal axis. Every move must be legal, but the last move doesn't have to be checkmate, hence the name opening instead of game.
What is the shortest copycat chess opening in which a rook captures another rook?
chess
asked 2 days ago
Arnaud MortierArnaud Mortier
2,171827
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This puzzle is inspired by and has similar rules to the series of puzzles by Sleafar.
Definition. A copycat chess opening is a sequence of moves starting from the conventional starting position, where every move by White (including the last one) is copied by Black identically, resulting in a symmetrical position with respect to the mid-horizontal axis. Every move must be legal, but the last move doesn't have to be checkmate, hence the name opening instead of game.
What is the shortest copycat chess opening in which a rook captures another rook?
chess
chess
asked 2 days ago
Arnaud MortierArnaud Mortier
2,171827
asked 2 days ago
Arnaud MortierArnaud Mortier
2,171827
edited 2 days ago
Arnaud Mortier
asked 2 days ago
Arnaud MortierArnaud Mortier
2,171827
asked 2 days ago
Arnaud MortierArnaud Mortier
2,171827
asked 2 days ago
Arnaud MortierArnaud Mortier
2,171827
2,171827
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Does it need to be symmetrical up to the rook capture or after the rook capture?
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J every move, including the last one...
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Does it need to be symmetrical up to the rook capture or after the rook capture?
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J every move, including the last one...
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Does it need to be symmetrical up to the rook capture or after the rook capture?
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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Does it need to be symmetrical up to the rook capture or after the rook capture?
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J every move, including the last one...
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J every move, including the last one...
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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How about seven moves each
1) p-a4 p-a5
2) p-b4 p-b5
3) p(b)xp pxp
4) p-a6 p-a3
5) p-a7 p-a2
6) pxN=R pxN=R
7) RxR RxR
answered 2 days ago
PenguinoPenguino
7,2472169
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Made it viewable here: lichess.org/study/CsNAXWW1
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– Matsemann
23 hours ago
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A mix of descriptive and algebraic notation
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– trolley813
22 hours ago
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@trolley813 That's because I am old-school - originally learned P-KR4 etc.
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– Penguino
9 hours ago
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I hope this answer doesn't get sniped...
It did get sniped, but @penguino had an answer that I built off of:
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. bxa5 bxa4 4. a6 a3 5. a7 a2 6. axb8=R axb1=R 7. Rbxa8 Rxa1
Explanation:
We can't have one of white's rooks that's already on the board take one of black's rooks across a file, since that move would not be copyable. Also, it's impossible for the rooks to capture each other along a rank, since that would require the rooks pass each other at some point, which cannot happen as they will mutually block each other each move they make.
The only other way to have a rook takes rook opening would be pawn promotion, whereby the mirrored pawns promote to a rook and then take the already-there rooks. This quickly leads us to the pawns on the a- and b-files (or g- and h-files), and thus, the solution above.
answered 2 days ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
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Yes you did :) +1 though.
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Maybe if I added an explanation...
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– PiIsNot3
2 days ago
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Regarding your explanation, it's a tiny bit trickier: why couldn't the capture occur horizontally and hence be possible to copy? (with the 4 rooks involved...)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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@ArnaudMortier: for a horizontal rook capture a rook would have to move to the opposite side of the board. This can't be mirrored because the rooks would collide. ie assume no other pieces in the way to move a rook from a1 to a6 is possible but then the opponents rook would need to move from a8 to a3 - impossible due to the rook on a6.
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– Chris
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@Chris True. But PilsNot has edited his answer since then to add this point of explanation.
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Here’s another way, but on the kingside.
1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rhxg1 Rxg8
And while I’m at it, here are the fastest way to do this with all other pieces, minus the kings of course.
Pawns:
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. bxa5 bxa4
Bishops:
1. b3 b6 2. Bb2 Bb7 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Bxg7 Bxg2
Knights:
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Ne5 Ne4 3. Nc6 Nc3 4. Nxb8 Nxb1
Queens:
1. b4 b5 2. c4 c5 3. cxb5 cxb4 4. b6 b3 5. b7 b2 6. bxc8=Q bxc1=Q 7. Qdxc1 Qxc8
Now I can say that I have predicted the future! ;¥ ;D
answered 2 days ago
Rewan DemontayRewan Demontay
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(+1): Wow, I didn't know there could be variations of this puzzle in the way you have shown!
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– user477343
2 days ago
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Why thank you! It was a pre-emptive strike by me, seeing how this will become a series for Arnaud Mortier, as he said.
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– Rewan Demontay
2 days ago
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Bishops not fastest: 1. b3 b6 2. Ba3 Ba6 3. Bxe7 Bxe2 4. Bxf8 Bxf1.
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– Remellion
2 days ago
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It wasn't my intention to make the same puzzle with other pieces. For me the rooks are by far the most interesting because you have to find the trick, otherwise it's not possible (fastest or not).
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– Arnaud Mortier
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@ArnaudMortier Actually, the same thing applies to queens too.
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Could it be
1. h4 h5
2. g4 g5
3. hxg5 hxg4
4. Rxh8...?
answered 2 days ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
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lol nice answer; beat me to it
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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No idea if it’s right or not but that’s the first thing I thought of haha @Brandon_J
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
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I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J this entire puzzling experience has been very meta LOL
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
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"I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym" - XKCD
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Here's
8 moves
lichess study
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. axb5 axb4 4. Nc3 Nc6 5. b6 b3 6. b7 b2 7. b8=R b1-R 8. Rxb1 Rxb8
answered 2 days ago
Brandon_JBrandon_J
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Think I just sniped you, friend!
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
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I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Weeeelll, I'm late to the party again @ArnaudMortier
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J I hope you had fun anyway :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
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I did. Thanks for the puzzle!
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How about seven moves each
1) p-a4 p-a5
2) p-b4 p-b5
3) p(b)xp pxp
4) p-a6 p-a3
5) p-a7 p-a2
6) pxN=R pxN=R
7) RxR RxR
answered 2 days ago
PenguinoPenguino
7,2472169
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Made it viewable here: lichess.org/study/CsNAXWW1
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– Matsemann
23 hours ago
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A mix of descriptive and algebraic notation
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– trolley813
22 hours ago
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@trolley813 That's because I am old-school - originally learned P-KR4 etc.
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– Penguino
9 hours ago
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How about seven moves each
1) p-a4 p-a5
2) p-b4 p-b5
3) p(b)xp pxp
4) p-a6 p-a3
5) p-a7 p-a2
6) pxN=R pxN=R
7) RxR RxR
answered 2 days ago
PenguinoPenguino
7,2472169
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Made it viewable here: lichess.org/study/CsNAXWW1
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– Matsemann
23 hours ago
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A mix of descriptive and algebraic notation
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– trolley813
22 hours ago
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@trolley813 That's because I am old-school - originally learned P-KR4 etc.
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– Penguino
9 hours ago
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How about seven moves each
1) p-a4 p-a5
2) p-b4 p-b5
3) p(b)xp pxp
4) p-a6 p-a3
5) p-a7 p-a2
6) pxN=R pxN=R
7) RxR RxR
answered 2 days ago
PenguinoPenguino
7,2472169
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How about seven moves each
1) p-a4 p-a5
2) p-b4 p-b5
3) p(b)xp pxp
4) p-a6 p-a3
5) p-a7 p-a2
6) pxN=R pxN=R
7) RxR RxR
answered 2 days ago
PenguinoPenguino
7,2472169
edited 2 days ago
answered 2 days ago
PenguinoPenguino
7,2472169
answered 2 days ago
PenguinoPenguino
7,2472169
answered 2 days ago
PenguinoPenguino
7,2472169
7,2472169
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Made it viewable here: lichess.org/study/CsNAXWW1
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– Matsemann
23 hours ago
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A mix of descriptive and algebraic notation
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– trolley813
22 hours ago
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@trolley813 That's because I am old-school - originally learned P-KR4 etc.
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– Penguino
9 hours ago
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Made it viewable here: lichess.org/study/CsNAXWW1
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– Matsemann
23 hours ago
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A mix of descriptive and algebraic notation
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– trolley813
22 hours ago
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@trolley813 That's because I am old-school - originally learned P-KR4 etc.
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– Penguino
9 hours ago
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Made it viewable here: lichess.org/study/CsNAXWW1
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– Matsemann
23 hours ago
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Made it viewable here: lichess.org/study/CsNAXWW1
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– Matsemann
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A mix of descriptive and algebraic notation
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– trolley813
22 hours ago
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A mix of descriptive and algebraic notation
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– trolley813
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@trolley813 That's because I am old-school - originally learned P-KR4 etc.
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– Penguino
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@trolley813 That's because I am old-school - originally learned P-KR4 etc.
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I hope this answer doesn't get sniped...
It did get sniped, but @penguino had an answer that I built off of:
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. bxa5 bxa4 4. a6 a3 5. a7 a2 6. axb8=R axb1=R 7. Rbxa8 Rxa1
Explanation:
We can't have one of white's rooks that's already on the board take one of black's rooks across a file, since that move would not be copyable. Also, it's impossible for the rooks to capture each other along a rank, since that would require the rooks pass each other at some point, which cannot happen as they will mutually block each other each move they make.
The only other way to have a rook takes rook opening would be pawn promotion, whereby the mirrored pawns promote to a rook and then take the already-there rooks. This quickly leads us to the pawns on the a- and b-files (or g- and h-files), and thus, the solution above.
answered 2 days ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
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Yes you did :) +1 though.
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Maybe if I added an explanation...
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– PiIsNot3
2 days ago
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Regarding your explanation, it's a tiny bit trickier: why couldn't the capture occur horizontally and hence be possible to copy? (with the 4 rooks involved...)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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@ArnaudMortier: for a horizontal rook capture a rook would have to move to the opposite side of the board. This can't be mirrored because the rooks would collide. ie assume no other pieces in the way to move a rook from a1 to a6 is possible but then the opponents rook would need to move from a8 to a3 - impossible due to the rook on a6.
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– Chris
yesterday
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@Chris True. But PilsNot has edited his answer since then to add this point of explanation.
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– Arnaud Mortier
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I hope this answer doesn't get sniped...
It did get sniped, but @penguino had an answer that I built off of:
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. bxa5 bxa4 4. a6 a3 5. a7 a2 6. axb8=R axb1=R 7. Rbxa8 Rxa1
Explanation:
We can't have one of white's rooks that's already on the board take one of black's rooks across a file, since that move would not be copyable. Also, it's impossible for the rooks to capture each other along a rank, since that would require the rooks pass each other at some point, which cannot happen as they will mutually block each other each move they make.
The only other way to have a rook takes rook opening would be pawn promotion, whereby the mirrored pawns promote to a rook and then take the already-there rooks. This quickly leads us to the pawns on the a- and b-files (or g- and h-files), and thus, the solution above.
answered 2 days ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
2,190331
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Yes you did :) +1 though.
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Maybe if I added an explanation...
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– PiIsNot3
2 days ago
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Regarding your explanation, it's a tiny bit trickier: why couldn't the capture occur horizontally and hence be possible to copy? (with the 4 rooks involved...)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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@ArnaudMortier: for a horizontal rook capture a rook would have to move to the opposite side of the board. This can't be mirrored because the rooks would collide. ie assume no other pieces in the way to move a rook from a1 to a6 is possible but then the opponents rook would need to move from a8 to a3 - impossible due to the rook on a6.
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– Chris
yesterday
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@Chris True. But PilsNot has edited his answer since then to add this point of explanation.
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– Arnaud Mortier
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I hope this answer doesn't get sniped...
It did get sniped, but @penguino had an answer that I built off of:
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. bxa5 bxa4 4. a6 a3 5. a7 a2 6. axb8=R axb1=R 7. Rbxa8 Rxa1
Explanation:
We can't have one of white's rooks that's already on the board take one of black's rooks across a file, since that move would not be copyable. Also, it's impossible for the rooks to capture each other along a rank, since that would require the rooks pass each other at some point, which cannot happen as they will mutually block each other each move they make.
The only other way to have a rook takes rook opening would be pawn promotion, whereby the mirrored pawns promote to a rook and then take the already-there rooks. This quickly leads us to the pawns on the a- and b-files (or g- and h-files), and thus, the solution above.
answered 2 days ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
2,190331
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I hope this answer doesn't get sniped...
It did get sniped, but @penguino had an answer that I built off of:
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. bxa5 bxa4 4. a6 a3 5. a7 a2 6. axb8=R axb1=R 7. Rbxa8 Rxa1
Explanation:
We can't have one of white's rooks that's already on the board take one of black's rooks across a file, since that move would not be copyable. Also, it's impossible for the rooks to capture each other along a rank, since that would require the rooks pass each other at some point, which cannot happen as they will mutually block each other each move they make.
The only other way to have a rook takes rook opening would be pawn promotion, whereby the mirrored pawns promote to a rook and then take the already-there rooks. This quickly leads us to the pawns on the a- and b-files (or g- and h-files), and thus, the solution above.
answered 2 days ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
2,190331
edited 2 days ago
answered 2 days ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
2,190331
answered 2 days ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
2,190331
answered 2 days ago
PiIsNot3PiIsNot3
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Yes you did :) +1 though.
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Maybe if I added an explanation...
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– PiIsNot3
2 days ago
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Regarding your explanation, it's a tiny bit trickier: why couldn't the capture occur horizontally and hence be possible to copy? (with the 4 rooks involved...)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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@ArnaudMortier: for a horizontal rook capture a rook would have to move to the opposite side of the board. This can't be mirrored because the rooks would collide. ie assume no other pieces in the way to move a rook from a1 to a6 is possible but then the opponents rook would need to move from a8 to a3 - impossible due to the rook on a6.
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– Chris
yesterday
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@Chris True. But PilsNot has edited his answer since then to add this point of explanation.
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Yes you did :) +1 though.
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Maybe if I added an explanation...
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– PiIsNot3
2 days ago
1
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Regarding your explanation, it's a tiny bit trickier: why couldn't the capture occur horizontally and hence be possible to copy? (with the 4 rooks involved...)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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@ArnaudMortier: for a horizontal rook capture a rook would have to move to the opposite side of the board. This can't be mirrored because the rooks would collide. ie assume no other pieces in the way to move a rook from a1 to a6 is possible but then the opponents rook would need to move from a8 to a3 - impossible due to the rook on a6.
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– Chris
yesterday
1
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@Chris True. But PilsNot has edited his answer since then to add this point of explanation.
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– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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Yes you did :) +1 though.
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Yes you did :) +1 though.
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Maybe if I added an explanation...
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– PiIsNot3
2 days ago
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Maybe if I added an explanation...
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– PiIsNot3
2 days ago
1
1
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Regarding your explanation, it's a tiny bit trickier: why couldn't the capture occur horizontally and hence be possible to copy? (with the 4 rooks involved...)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Regarding your explanation, it's a tiny bit trickier: why couldn't the capture occur horizontally and hence be possible to copy? (with the 4 rooks involved...)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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@ArnaudMortier: for a horizontal rook capture a rook would have to move to the opposite side of the board. This can't be mirrored because the rooks would collide. ie assume no other pieces in the way to move a rook from a1 to a6 is possible but then the opponents rook would need to move from a8 to a3 - impossible due to the rook on a6.
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– Chris
yesterday
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@ArnaudMortier: for a horizontal rook capture a rook would have to move to the opposite side of the board. This can't be mirrored because the rooks would collide. ie assume no other pieces in the way to move a rook from a1 to a6 is possible but then the opponents rook would need to move from a8 to a3 - impossible due to the rook on a6.
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– Chris
yesterday
1
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@Chris True. But PilsNot has edited his answer since then to add this point of explanation.
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– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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@Chris True. But PilsNot has edited his answer since then to add this point of explanation.
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– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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Here’s another way, but on the kingside.
1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rhxg1 Rxg8
And while I’m at it, here are the fastest way to do this with all other pieces, minus the kings of course.
Pawns:
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. bxa5 bxa4
Bishops:
1. b3 b6 2. Bb2 Bb7 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Bxg7 Bxg2
Knights:
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Ne5 Ne4 3. Nc6 Nc3 4. Nxb8 Nxb1
Queens:
1. b4 b5 2. c4 c5 3. cxb5 cxb4 4. b6 b3 5. b7 b2 6. bxc8=Q bxc1=Q 7. Qdxc1 Qxc8
Now I can say that I have predicted the future! ;¥ ;D
answered 2 days ago
Rewan DemontayRewan Demontay
65015
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(+1): Wow, I didn't know there could be variations of this puzzle in the way you have shown!
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– user477343
2 days ago
1
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Why thank you! It was a pre-emptive strike by me, seeing how this will become a series for Arnaud Mortier, as he said.
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– Rewan Demontay
2 days ago
1
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Bishops not fastest: 1. b3 b6 2. Ba3 Ba6 3. Bxe7 Bxe2 4. Bxf8 Bxf1.
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– Remellion
2 days ago
1
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It wasn't my intention to make the same puzzle with other pieces. For me the rooks are by far the most interesting because you have to find the trick, otherwise it's not possible (fastest or not).
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– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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@ArnaudMortier Actually, the same thing applies to queens too.
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– trolley813
22 hours ago
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Here’s another way, but on the kingside.
1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rhxg1 Rxg8
And while I’m at it, here are the fastest way to do this with all other pieces, minus the kings of course.
Pawns:
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. bxa5 bxa4
Bishops:
1. b3 b6 2. Bb2 Bb7 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Bxg7 Bxg2
Knights:
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Ne5 Ne4 3. Nc6 Nc3 4. Nxb8 Nxb1
Queens:
1. b4 b5 2. c4 c5 3. cxb5 cxb4 4. b6 b3 5. b7 b2 6. bxc8=Q bxc1=Q 7. Qdxc1 Qxc8
Now I can say that I have predicted the future! ;¥ ;D
answered 2 days ago
Rewan DemontayRewan Demontay
65015
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(+1): Wow, I didn't know there could be variations of this puzzle in the way you have shown!
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– user477343
2 days ago
1
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Why thank you! It was a pre-emptive strike by me, seeing how this will become a series for Arnaud Mortier, as he said.
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– Rewan Demontay
2 days ago
1
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Bishops not fastest: 1. b3 b6 2. Ba3 Ba6 3. Bxe7 Bxe2 4. Bxf8 Bxf1.
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– Remellion
2 days ago
1
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It wasn't my intention to make the same puzzle with other pieces. For me the rooks are by far the most interesting because you have to find the trick, otherwise it's not possible (fastest or not).
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– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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@ArnaudMortier Actually, the same thing applies to queens too.
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– trolley813
22 hours ago
|
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Here’s another way, but on the kingside.
1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rhxg1 Rxg8
And while I’m at it, here are the fastest way to do this with all other pieces, minus the kings of course.
Pawns:
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. bxa5 bxa4
Bishops:
1. b3 b6 2. Bb2 Bb7 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Bxg7 Bxg2
Knights:
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Ne5 Ne4 3. Nc6 Nc3 4. Nxb8 Nxb1
Queens:
1. b4 b5 2. c4 c5 3. cxb5 cxb4 4. b6 b3 5. b7 b2 6. bxc8=Q bxc1=Q 7. Qdxc1 Qxc8
Now I can say that I have predicted the future! ;¥ ;D
answered 2 days ago
Rewan DemontayRewan Demontay
65015
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Here’s another way, but on the kingside.
1. g4 g5 2. h4 h5 3. gxh5 gxh4 4. h6 h3 5. h7 h2 6. hxg8=R hxg1=R 7. Rhxg1 Rxg8
And while I’m at it, here are the fastest way to do this with all other pieces, minus the kings of course.
Pawns:
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. bxa5 bxa4
Bishops:
1. b3 b6 2. Bb2 Bb7 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. Bxg7 Bxg2
Knights:
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Ne5 Ne4 3. Nc6 Nc3 4. Nxb8 Nxb1
Queens:
1. b4 b5 2. c4 c5 3. cxb5 cxb4 4. b6 b3 5. b7 b2 6. bxc8=Q bxc1=Q 7. Qdxc1 Qxc8
Now I can say that I have predicted the future! ;¥ ;D
answered 2 days ago
Rewan DemontayRewan Demontay
65015
edited 2 days ago
answered 2 days ago
Rewan DemontayRewan Demontay
65015
answered 2 days ago
Rewan DemontayRewan Demontay
65015
answered 2 days ago
Rewan DemontayRewan Demontay
65015
65015
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(+1): Wow, I didn't know there could be variations of this puzzle in the way you have shown!
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– user477343
2 days ago
1
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Why thank you! It was a pre-emptive strike by me, seeing how this will become a series for Arnaud Mortier, as he said.
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– Rewan Demontay
2 days ago
1
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Bishops not fastest: 1. b3 b6 2. Ba3 Ba6 3. Bxe7 Bxe2 4. Bxf8 Bxf1.
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– Remellion
2 days ago
1
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It wasn't my intention to make the same puzzle with other pieces. For me the rooks are by far the most interesting because you have to find the trick, otherwise it's not possible (fastest or not).
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– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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@ArnaudMortier Actually, the same thing applies to queens too.
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– trolley813
22 hours ago
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show 1 more comment
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(+1): Wow, I didn't know there could be variations of this puzzle in the way you have shown!
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– user477343
2 days ago
1
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Why thank you! It was a pre-emptive strike by me, seeing how this will become a series for Arnaud Mortier, as he said.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
2 days ago
1
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Bishops not fastest: 1. b3 b6 2. Ba3 Ba6 3. Bxe7 Bxe2 4. Bxf8 Bxf1.
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– Remellion
2 days ago
1
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It wasn't my intention to make the same puzzle with other pieces. For me the rooks are by far the most interesting because you have to find the trick, otherwise it's not possible (fastest or not).
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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@ArnaudMortier Actually, the same thing applies to queens too.
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– trolley813
22 hours ago
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(+1): Wow, I didn't know there could be variations of this puzzle in the way you have shown!
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– user477343
2 days ago
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(+1): Wow, I didn't know there could be variations of this puzzle in the way you have shown!
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– user477343
2 days ago
1
1
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Why thank you! It was a pre-emptive strike by me, seeing how this will become a series for Arnaud Mortier, as he said.
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– Rewan Demontay
2 days ago
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Why thank you! It was a pre-emptive strike by me, seeing how this will become a series for Arnaud Mortier, as he said.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
2 days ago
1
1
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Bishops not fastest: 1. b3 b6 2. Ba3 Ba6 3. Bxe7 Bxe2 4. Bxf8 Bxf1.
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– Remellion
2 days ago
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Bishops not fastest: 1. b3 b6 2. Ba3 Ba6 3. Bxe7 Bxe2 4. Bxf8 Bxf1.
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– Remellion
2 days ago
1
1
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It wasn't my intention to make the same puzzle with other pieces. For me the rooks are by far the most interesting because you have to find the trick, otherwise it's not possible (fastest or not).
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– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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It wasn't my intention to make the same puzzle with other pieces. For me the rooks are by far the most interesting because you have to find the trick, otherwise it's not possible (fastest or not).
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– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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@ArnaudMortier Actually, the same thing applies to queens too.
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– trolley813
22 hours ago
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@ArnaudMortier Actually, the same thing applies to queens too.
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– trolley813
22 hours ago
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Could it be
1. h4 h5
2. g4 g5
3. hxg5 hxg4
4. Rxh8...?
answered 2 days ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
21.7k35092
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lol nice answer; beat me to it
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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No idea if it’s right or not but that’s the first thing I thought of haha @Brandon_J
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
1
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I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J this entire puzzling experience has been very meta LOL
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
5
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"I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym" - XKCD
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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Could it be
1. h4 h5
2. g4 g5
3. hxg5 hxg4
4. Rxh8...?
answered 2 days ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
21.7k35092
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1
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lol nice answer; beat me to it
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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No idea if it’s right or not but that’s the first thing I thought of haha @Brandon_J
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
1
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I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J this entire puzzling experience has been very meta LOL
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
5
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"I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym" - XKCD
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
|
show 1 more comment
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Could it be
1. h4 h5
2. g4 g5
3. hxg5 hxg4
4. Rxh8...?
answered 2 days ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
21.7k35092
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Could it be
1. h4 h5
2. g4 g5
3. hxg5 hxg4
4. Rxh8...?
answered 2 days ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
21.7k35092
answered 2 days ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
21.7k35092
answered 2 days ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
21.7k35092
answered 2 days ago
El-GuestEl-Guest
21.7k35092
21.7k35092
1
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lol nice answer; beat me to it
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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No idea if it’s right or not but that’s the first thing I thought of haha @Brandon_J
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
1
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I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J this entire puzzling experience has been very meta LOL
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
5
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"I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym" - XKCD
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
|
show 1 more comment
1
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lol nice answer; beat me to it
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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No idea if it’s right or not but that’s the first thing I thought of haha @Brandon_J
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
1
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I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@Brandon_J this entire puzzling experience has been very meta LOL
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
5
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"I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym" - XKCD
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
1
1
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lol nice answer; beat me to it
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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lol nice answer; beat me to it
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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No idea if it’s right or not but that’s the first thing I thought of haha @Brandon_J
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
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No idea if it’s right or not but that’s the first thing I thought of haha @Brandon_J
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
1
1
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I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J this entire puzzling experience has been very meta LOL
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@Brandon_J this entire puzzling experience has been very meta LOL
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
5
5
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"I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym" - XKCD
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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"I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym" - XKCD
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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Here's
8 moves
lichess study
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. axb5 axb4 4. Nc3 Nc6 5. b6 b3 6. b7 b2 7. b8=R b1-R 8. Rxb1 Rxb8
answered 2 days ago
Brandon_JBrandon_J
3,652244
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Think I just sniped you, friend!
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
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I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Weeeelll, I'm late to the party again @ArnaudMortier
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J I hope you had fun anyway :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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I did. Thanks for the puzzle!
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
add a comment |
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Here's
8 moves
lichess study
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. axb5 axb4 4. Nc3 Nc6 5. b6 b3 6. b7 b2 7. b8=R b1-R 8. Rxb1 Rxb8
answered 2 days ago
Brandon_JBrandon_J
3,652244
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Think I just sniped you, friend!
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
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I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Weeeelll, I'm late to the party again @ArnaudMortier
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J I hope you had fun anyway :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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I did. Thanks for the puzzle!
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
add a comment |
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Here's
8 moves
lichess study
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. axb5 axb4 4. Nc3 Nc6 5. b6 b3 6. b7 b2 7. b8=R b1-R 8. Rxb1 Rxb8
answered 2 days ago
Brandon_JBrandon_J
3,652244
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Here's
8 moves
lichess study
1. a4 a5 2. b4 b5 3. axb5 axb4 4. Nc3 Nc6 5. b6 b3 6. b7 b2 7. b8=R b1-R 8. Rxb1 Rxb8
answered 2 days ago
Brandon_JBrandon_J
3,652244
edited 2 days ago
answered 2 days ago
Brandon_JBrandon_J
3,652244
answered 2 days ago
Brandon_JBrandon_J
3,652244
answered 2 days ago
Brandon_JBrandon_J
3,652244
3,652244
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Think I just sniped you, friend!
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– El-Guest
2 days ago
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I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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Weeeelll, I'm late to the party again @ArnaudMortier
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J I hope you had fun anyway :)
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
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I did. Thanks for the puzzle!
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
add a comment |
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Think I just sniped you, friend!
$endgroup$
– El-Guest
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Weeeelll, I'm late to the party again @ArnaudMortier
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@Brandon_J I hope you had fun anyway :)
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I did. Thanks for the puzzle!
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Think I just sniped you, friend!
$endgroup$
– El-Guest
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Think I just sniped you, friend!
$endgroup$
– El-Guest
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I think both of you forgot to read the rules: every move, including the last one... :)
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Weeeelll, I'm late to the party again @ArnaudMortier
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
$begingroup$
Weeeelll, I'm late to the party again @ArnaudMortier
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@Brandon_J I hope you had fun anyway :)
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@Brandon_J I hope you had fun anyway :)
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I did. Thanks for the puzzle!
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
$begingroup$
I did. Thanks for the puzzle!
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
add a comment |
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Does it need to be symmetrical up to the rook capture or after the rook capture?
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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@Brandon_J every move, including the last one...
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– Arnaud Mortier
2 days ago