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It's been at it for 3-4 hours. I selected to install Ubuntu on a near empty drive (With just the image file of the OS installer in it.



I'm not sure if I did something wrong, or if something went wrong on the other end, or both (or is this supposed to be normal?)



I'm a Windows refugee. System specs are 16GB RAM, i7-7700K (2.80GHz), GTX 1050 Ti.










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    3-4 hours is way too much even in a slow computer. Please specify your computer's brand name and model. -- You could also try mkusb, which creates a casper-rw partition instead of such a file for persistence. See help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb and help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/persistent

    – sudodus
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  • Just updated with specs. 16GB RAM/i7-7700K/GTX 1050 Ti. Model is Dell 15 7567

    – Bonita
    Feb 28 '18 at 9:58












  • My experience (with a Dell Latitude E7240) is that it works well with Ubuntu. Something else is the problem, maybe the iso file (did you check it with md5sum?, help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes), maybe the tool (Universal USB Installer). -- You will probably need the boot option nomodeset to get the nvidia graphics work in a [persistent] live drive. If you create an installed system in your USB drive, you can also install a proprietary nvidia driver (to improve the performance), but it will reduce the portability between computers.

    – sudodus
    Feb 28 '18 at 10:02












  • Or maybe you have an extremely slow USB pendrive. See this link, help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/…

    – sudodus
    Feb 28 '18 at 10:07






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    I think I know what went wrong. It was my fault. Universal USB asked me (optional) to define the persistent data size and I accidentally had the whole space drive (of the HDD) defined for it, rather than a small number like 2GB. Maybe that's why it was taking forever? edit: I retried the install. This time it wrapped up under 10 seconds! That must have been it.

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Creating a persistent file. Progress will not move until finished...




It's been at it for 3-4 hours. I selected to install Ubuntu on a near empty drive (With just the image file of the OS installer in it.



I'm not sure if I did something wrong, or if something went wrong on the other end, or both (or is this supposed to be normal?)



I'm a Windows refugee. System specs are 16GB RAM, i7-7700K (2.80GHz), GTX 1050 Ti.










share|improve this question























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    3-4 hours is way too much even in a slow computer. Please specify your computer's brand name and model. -- You could also try mkusb, which creates a casper-rw partition instead of such a file for persistence. See help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb and help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/persistent

    – sudodus
    Feb 28 '18 at 9:57












  • Just updated with specs. 16GB RAM/i7-7700K/GTX 1050 Ti. Model is Dell 15 7567

    – Bonita
    Feb 28 '18 at 9:58












  • My experience (with a Dell Latitude E7240) is that it works well with Ubuntu. Something else is the problem, maybe the iso file (did you check it with md5sum?, help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes), maybe the tool (Universal USB Installer). -- You will probably need the boot option nomodeset to get the nvidia graphics work in a [persistent] live drive. If you create an installed system in your USB drive, you can also install a proprietary nvidia driver (to improve the performance), but it will reduce the portability between computers.

    – sudodus
    Feb 28 '18 at 10:02












  • Or maybe you have an extremely slow USB pendrive. See this link, help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/…

    – sudodus
    Feb 28 '18 at 10:07






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    I think I know what went wrong. It was my fault. Universal USB asked me (optional) to define the persistent data size and I accidentally had the whole space drive (of the HDD) defined for it, rather than a small number like 2GB. Maybe that's why it was taking forever? edit: I retried the install. This time it wrapped up under 10 seconds! That must have been it.

    – Bonita
    Feb 28 '18 at 10:58














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Creating a persistent file. Progress will not move until finished...




It's been at it for 3-4 hours. I selected to install Ubuntu on a near empty drive (With just the image file of the OS installer in it.



I'm not sure if I did something wrong, or if something went wrong on the other end, or both (or is this supposed to be normal?)



I'm a Windows refugee. System specs are 16GB RAM, i7-7700K (2.80GHz), GTX 1050 Ti.










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Creating a persistent file. Progress will not move until finished...




It's been at it for 3-4 hours. I selected to install Ubuntu on a near empty drive (With just the image file of the OS installer in it.



I'm not sure if I did something wrong, or if something went wrong on the other end, or both (or is this supposed to be normal?)



I'm a Windows refugee. System specs are 16GB RAM, i7-7700K (2.80GHz), GTX 1050 Ti.







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    3-4 hours is way too much even in a slow computer. Please specify your computer's brand name and model. -- You could also try mkusb, which creates a casper-rw partition instead of such a file for persistence. See help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb and help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/persistent

    – sudodus
    Feb 28 '18 at 9:57












  • Just updated with specs. 16GB RAM/i7-7700K/GTX 1050 Ti. Model is Dell 15 7567

    – Bonita
    Feb 28 '18 at 9:58












  • My experience (with a Dell Latitude E7240) is that it works well with Ubuntu. Something else is the problem, maybe the iso file (did you check it with md5sum?, help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes), maybe the tool (Universal USB Installer). -- You will probably need the boot option nomodeset to get the nvidia graphics work in a [persistent] live drive. If you create an installed system in your USB drive, you can also install a proprietary nvidia driver (to improve the performance), but it will reduce the portability between computers.

    – sudodus
    Feb 28 '18 at 10:02












  • Or maybe you have an extremely slow USB pendrive. See this link, help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/…

    – sudodus
    Feb 28 '18 at 10:07






  • 2





    I think I know what went wrong. It was my fault. Universal USB asked me (optional) to define the persistent data size and I accidentally had the whole space drive (of the HDD) defined for it, rather than a small number like 2GB. Maybe that's why it was taking forever? edit: I retried the install. This time it wrapped up under 10 seconds! That must have been it.

    – Bonita
    Feb 28 '18 at 10:58













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    3-4 hours is way too much even in a slow computer. Please specify your computer's brand name and model. -- You could also try mkusb, which creates a casper-rw partition instead of such a file for persistence. See help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb and help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/persistent

    – sudodus
    Feb 28 '18 at 9:57












  • Just updated with specs. 16GB RAM/i7-7700K/GTX 1050 Ti. Model is Dell 15 7567

    – Bonita
    Feb 28 '18 at 9:58












  • My experience (with a Dell Latitude E7240) is that it works well with Ubuntu. Something else is the problem, maybe the iso file (did you check it with md5sum?, help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes), maybe the tool (Universal USB Installer). -- You will probably need the boot option nomodeset to get the nvidia graphics work in a [persistent] live drive. If you create an installed system in your USB drive, you can also install a proprietary nvidia driver (to improve the performance), but it will reduce the portability between computers.

    – sudodus
    Feb 28 '18 at 10:02












  • Or maybe you have an extremely slow USB pendrive. See this link, help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/…

    – sudodus
    Feb 28 '18 at 10:07






  • 2





    I think I know what went wrong. It was my fault. Universal USB asked me (optional) to define the persistent data size and I accidentally had the whole space drive (of the HDD) defined for it, rather than a small number like 2GB. Maybe that's why it was taking forever? edit: I retried the install. This time it wrapped up under 10 seconds! That must have been it.

    – Bonita
    Feb 28 '18 at 10:58








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3-4 hours is way too much even in a slow computer. Please specify your computer's brand name and model. -- You could also try mkusb, which creates a casper-rw partition instead of such a file for persistence. See help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb and help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/persistent

– sudodus
Feb 28 '18 at 9:57






3-4 hours is way too much even in a slow computer. Please specify your computer's brand name and model. -- You could also try mkusb, which creates a casper-rw partition instead of such a file for persistence. See help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb and help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/persistent

– sudodus
Feb 28 '18 at 9:57














Just updated with specs. 16GB RAM/i7-7700K/GTX 1050 Ti. Model is Dell 15 7567

– Bonita
Feb 28 '18 at 9:58






Just updated with specs. 16GB RAM/i7-7700K/GTX 1050 Ti. Model is Dell 15 7567

– Bonita
Feb 28 '18 at 9:58














My experience (with a Dell Latitude E7240) is that it works well with Ubuntu. Something else is the problem, maybe the iso file (did you check it with md5sum?, help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes), maybe the tool (Universal USB Installer). -- You will probably need the boot option nomodeset to get the nvidia graphics work in a [persistent] live drive. If you create an installed system in your USB drive, you can also install a proprietary nvidia driver (to improve the performance), but it will reduce the portability between computers.

– sudodus
Feb 28 '18 at 10:02






My experience (with a Dell Latitude E7240) is that it works well with Ubuntu. Something else is the problem, maybe the iso file (did you check it with md5sum?, help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes), maybe the tool (Universal USB Installer). -- You will probably need the boot option nomodeset to get the nvidia graphics work in a [persistent] live drive. If you create an installed system in your USB drive, you can also install a proprietary nvidia driver (to improve the performance), but it will reduce the portability between computers.

– sudodus
Feb 28 '18 at 10:02














Or maybe you have an extremely slow USB pendrive. See this link, help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/…

– sudodus
Feb 28 '18 at 10:07





Or maybe you have an extremely slow USB pendrive. See this link, help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/…

– sudodus
Feb 28 '18 at 10:07




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I think I know what went wrong. It was my fault. Universal USB asked me (optional) to define the persistent data size and I accidentally had the whole space drive (of the HDD) defined for it, rather than a small number like 2GB. Maybe that's why it was taking forever? edit: I retried the install. This time it wrapped up under 10 seconds! That must have been it.

– Bonita
Feb 28 '18 at 10:58






I think I know what went wrong. It was my fault. Universal USB asked me (optional) to define the persistent data size and I accidentally had the whole space drive (of the HDD) defined for it, rather than a small number like 2GB. Maybe that's why it was taking forever? edit: I retried the install. This time it wrapped up under 10 seconds! That must have been it.

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Universal USB Installer and a casper-rw file



The OP, @Bonita, was able to solve the problem after we had exchanged ideas via comments. I write this answer to explain the solution.



The Universal USB Installer creates a casper-rw file for persistence, and she had selected all remaining space for it, which made it huge, because it was in a hard disk drive. The method to create the casper-rw file is intended for rather small USB pendrives, and it will take a very long time for a huge file.



She solved the problem by creating a smaller casper-rw file, only a few Gigabyte.




Universal USB asked me (optional) to define the persistent data size
and I accidentally had the whole space drive (of the HDD) defined for
it, rather than a small number like 2GB. Maybe that's why it was
taking forever? edit: I retried the install. This time it wrapped up
under 10 seconds! That must have been it.





mkusb and a casper-rw partition



If you have a big USB drive, like in this case a hard disk drive, or an SSD, and you want to use all the remaining drive space for persistence, you can use a persistent live system with a casper-rw partition.



mkusb can create such a persistent live system, and setting up a big or huge partition is much faster than doing it for a file of the same size.



General discussion



See also this link, and the discussion in the whole thread (the question and also the other answers),



... try out new OS releases without committing to it? - USB alternatives






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    As an aside - in windows 10 the casper-rw file is created in your Users"user name"AppDataLocalTemp folder before being deleted at the end of the process. If (as I have just done) you have a larger USB drive (128GB) and you set the persistent file size too big you may find yourself running out of space on your OS drive (in my case a 258GB NVME). This will slow/stop the process and can cause a significant problems in win 10 and if you are forced to abort the process you will need to find the file and delete it to get your space back.






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      Universal USB Installer and a casper-rw file



      The OP, @Bonita, was able to solve the problem after we had exchanged ideas via comments. I write this answer to explain the solution.



      The Universal USB Installer creates a casper-rw file for persistence, and she had selected all remaining space for it, which made it huge, because it was in a hard disk drive. The method to create the casper-rw file is intended for rather small USB pendrives, and it will take a very long time for a huge file.



      She solved the problem by creating a smaller casper-rw file, only a few Gigabyte.




      Universal USB asked me (optional) to define the persistent data size
      and I accidentally had the whole space drive (of the HDD) defined for
      it, rather than a small number like 2GB. Maybe that's why it was
      taking forever? edit: I retried the install. This time it wrapped up
      under 10 seconds! That must have been it.





      mkusb and a casper-rw partition



      If you have a big USB drive, like in this case a hard disk drive, or an SSD, and you want to use all the remaining drive space for persistence, you can use a persistent live system with a casper-rw partition.



      mkusb can create such a persistent live system, and setting up a big or huge partition is much faster than doing it for a file of the same size.



      General discussion



      See also this link, and the discussion in the whole thread (the question and also the other answers),



      ... try out new OS releases without committing to it? - USB alternatives






      share|improve this answer
































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        Universal USB Installer and a casper-rw file



        The OP, @Bonita, was able to solve the problem after we had exchanged ideas via comments. I write this answer to explain the solution.



        The Universal USB Installer creates a casper-rw file for persistence, and she had selected all remaining space for it, which made it huge, because it was in a hard disk drive. The method to create the casper-rw file is intended for rather small USB pendrives, and it will take a very long time for a huge file.



        She solved the problem by creating a smaller casper-rw file, only a few Gigabyte.




        Universal USB asked me (optional) to define the persistent data size
        and I accidentally had the whole space drive (of the HDD) defined for
        it, rather than a small number like 2GB. Maybe that's why it was
        taking forever? edit: I retried the install. This time it wrapped up
        under 10 seconds! That must have been it.





        mkusb and a casper-rw partition



        If you have a big USB drive, like in this case a hard disk drive, or an SSD, and you want to use all the remaining drive space for persistence, you can use a persistent live system with a casper-rw partition.



        mkusb can create such a persistent live system, and setting up a big or huge partition is much faster than doing it for a file of the same size.



        General discussion



        See also this link, and the discussion in the whole thread (the question and also the other answers),



        ... try out new OS releases without committing to it? - USB alternatives






        share|improve this answer






























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          Universal USB Installer and a casper-rw file



          The OP, @Bonita, was able to solve the problem after we had exchanged ideas via comments. I write this answer to explain the solution.



          The Universal USB Installer creates a casper-rw file for persistence, and she had selected all remaining space for it, which made it huge, because it was in a hard disk drive. The method to create the casper-rw file is intended for rather small USB pendrives, and it will take a very long time for a huge file.



          She solved the problem by creating a smaller casper-rw file, only a few Gigabyte.




          Universal USB asked me (optional) to define the persistent data size
          and I accidentally had the whole space drive (of the HDD) defined for
          it, rather than a small number like 2GB. Maybe that's why it was
          taking forever? edit: I retried the install. This time it wrapped up
          under 10 seconds! That must have been it.





          mkusb and a casper-rw partition



          If you have a big USB drive, like in this case a hard disk drive, or an SSD, and you want to use all the remaining drive space for persistence, you can use a persistent live system with a casper-rw partition.



          mkusb can create such a persistent live system, and setting up a big or huge partition is much faster than doing it for a file of the same size.



          General discussion



          See also this link, and the discussion in the whole thread (the question and also the other answers),



          ... try out new OS releases without committing to it? - USB alternatives






          share|improve this answer
















          Universal USB Installer and a casper-rw file



          The OP, @Bonita, was able to solve the problem after we had exchanged ideas via comments. I write this answer to explain the solution.



          The Universal USB Installer creates a casper-rw file for persistence, and she had selected all remaining space for it, which made it huge, because it was in a hard disk drive. The method to create the casper-rw file is intended for rather small USB pendrives, and it will take a very long time for a huge file.



          She solved the problem by creating a smaller casper-rw file, only a few Gigabyte.




          Universal USB asked me (optional) to define the persistent data size
          and I accidentally had the whole space drive (of the HDD) defined for
          it, rather than a small number like 2GB. Maybe that's why it was
          taking forever? edit: I retried the install. This time it wrapped up
          under 10 seconds! That must have been it.





          mkusb and a casper-rw partition



          If you have a big USB drive, like in this case a hard disk drive, or an SSD, and you want to use all the remaining drive space for persistence, you can use a persistent live system with a casper-rw partition.



          mkusb can create such a persistent live system, and setting up a big or huge partition is much faster than doing it for a file of the same size.



          General discussion



          See also this link, and the discussion in the whole thread (the question and also the other answers),



          ... try out new OS releases without committing to it? - USB alternatives







          share|improve this answer















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              As an aside - in windows 10 the casper-rw file is created in your Users"user name"AppDataLocalTemp folder before being deleted at the end of the process. If (as I have just done) you have a larger USB drive (128GB) and you set the persistent file size too big you may find yourself running out of space on your OS drive (in my case a 258GB NVME). This will slow/stop the process and can cause a significant problems in win 10 and if you are forced to abort the process you will need to find the file and delete it to get your space back.






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