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What is the closed form of the $f$ with $f(1)=1$, $f(2)=7$ and $f(n)=7f(n-1)-12f(n-2)$ ($nge 3$)?


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Suppose $f(1)=1$ and $f(2)=7$. For $nge 3$ we have
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What is the closed form of the function $f$?





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    Suppose $f(1)=1$ and $f(2)=7$. For $nge 3$ we have
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    What is the closed form of the function $f$?





    I've tried unrolling it but it gets very complicated very quickly without a clear pattern emerging. Any ideas?










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      Suppose $f(1)=1$ and $f(2)=7$. For $nge 3$ we have
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      What is the closed form of the function $f$?





      I've tried unrolling it but it gets very complicated very quickly without a clear pattern emerging. Any ideas?










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      Suppose $f(1)=1$ and $f(2)=7$. For $nge 3$ we have
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      $$

      What is the closed form of the function $f$?





      I've tried unrolling it but it gets very complicated very quickly without a clear pattern emerging. Any ideas?







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          Write $a_n = f(n)$ instead.



          • Step 1

          You can note that $$a_n+1-4a_n = 3(a_n-4a_n-1)$$ so putting $b_n=a_n-4a_n-1$ you get $$b_n+1 = 3b_n$$ so $b_n$ is geometric progression, with $b_2=3$ so $b_1=1$ and thus $$b_n = 3^n-1$$ so $$boxeda_n+1-4a_n =3^n$$



          • Step 2

          You can also note that $$a_n+1-3a_n = 4(a_n-3a_n-1)$$ so putting $c_n=a_n-3a_n-1$ you get $$c_n+1 = 4c_n$$ so $c_n$ is geometric progression, with $c_2=4$ so $c_1=1$ and thus $$c_n = 4^n-1$$ so $$boxeda_n+1-3a_n = 4^n$$



          • Step 3

          If you substract those formulas in boxes you get:



          $$boxeda_n = 4^n- 3^n$$






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            @Mehrdad it's a simple algebraic rearrangement using $a_n+1=f(n)$ to get $f(n)=7f(n-1)-12f(n-2)Rightarrow a_n+1=7a_n-12a_n-1Rightarrow ldots$.
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            @Jam I gave an explanation down.
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            @Jam: I don't mean 'how' as in the mechanics of it... I mean 'how' as in, like, the inspiration. It's... not obvious.
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          The characteristic equation is $x^2-7x+12=0$, which factors as $(x-3)(x-4)=0$, yielding two roots, 3 and 4. So $f(n)=acdot 3^n+bcdot 4^n$ for some constants $a$ and $b$. Now use the values of $f(1)$ and $f(2)$ to solve for $a$ and $b$.






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            Unfortunately I don't know what your mathematical background is to know if this is a useful answer, but I'll post it for the sake of completeness.



            What you have is a linear constant-coefficient difference equation.



            There are lots of ways to solve them, some specialized, but the usual generic one is linear algebra:



            beginalign*
            overbracebeginbmatrix a_n+1 \ a_nphantom+1 endbmatrix^x_n+1
            &= overbracebeginbmatrix 7 & -12 \ 1 & 0 endbmatrix^A
            overbracebeginbmatrix a_nphantom-1 \ a_n-1 endbmatrix^x_n \
            &= beginbmatrix 7 & -12 \ 1 & 0 endbmatrix^n-1
            beginbmatrix 7 \ 1 endbmatrix
            endalign*



            Now you want to compute $A^n-1$, for which you'd diagonalize $A$ and get



            beginalign*
            A^n = beginbmatrix 4 & 1 \ 3 & 1 endbmatrix^-1beginbmatrix 4^n & 0 \ 0 & 3^n endbmatrix beginbmatrix 4 & 1 \ 3 & 1 endbmatrix
            endalign*



            which you can substitute to obtain $a_n+1$.






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              Added at request of Mehrdad.



              Say we have $$boxeda_n+1 = (x+y)a_n-xya_n-1$$ then we can do: $$a_n+1-xa_n = y(a_n-xa_n-1)$$ and $$a_n+1-ya_n = x(a_n-ya_n-1)$$



              Putting $boxedb_n =a_n-xa_n-1$ and $boxedc_n = a_n-ya_n-1$ we can finish as before.



              In general $x,y$ are solution of quadratic (characteristic) equation $t^2-pt-q=0$ of recursion $$a_n+1 = pa_n+qa_n-1$$




              One more example: $$a_n+1 = 2a_n+8a_n-1.$$ Then we can do $$a_n+1+2a_n = 4(a_n+2a_n-1)$$ and $$a_n+1-4a_n = -2(a_n-4a_n-1)$$



              Then with $b_n =a_n+2a_n-1$ and $c_n = a_n-4a_n-1$ we are done...






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                Haha thanks for adding this! I'd have just added it to your previous answer though :P people might get confused on that one without realizing this one clarifies it...
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              Write $a_n = f(n)$ instead.



              • Step 1

              You can note that $$a_n+1-4a_n = 3(a_n-4a_n-1)$$ so putting $b_n=a_n-4a_n-1$ you get $$b_n+1 = 3b_n$$ so $b_n$ is geometric progression, with $b_2=3$ so $b_1=1$ and thus $$b_n = 3^n-1$$ so $$boxeda_n+1-4a_n =3^n$$



              • Step 2

              You can also note that $$a_n+1-3a_n = 4(a_n-3a_n-1)$$ so putting $c_n=a_n-3a_n-1$ you get $$c_n+1 = 4c_n$$ so $c_n$ is geometric progression, with $c_2=4$ so $c_1=1$ and thus $$c_n = 4^n-1$$ so $$boxeda_n+1-3a_n = 4^n$$



              • Step 3

              If you substract those formulas in boxes you get:



              $$boxeda_n = 4^n- 3^n$$






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                Well, that is elegant! (+1)
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                You should really explain how you just "note" that first step...
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                @Mehrdad it's a simple algebraic rearrangement using $a_n+1=f(n)$ to get $f(n)=7f(n-1)-12f(n-2)Rightarrow a_n+1=7a_n-12a_n-1Rightarrow ldots$.
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                @Jam I gave an explanation down.
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                @Jam: I don't mean 'how' as in the mechanics of it... I mean 'how' as in, like, the inspiration. It's... not obvious.
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              $begingroup$

              Write $a_n = f(n)$ instead.



              • Step 1

              You can note that $$a_n+1-4a_n = 3(a_n-4a_n-1)$$ so putting $b_n=a_n-4a_n-1$ you get $$b_n+1 = 3b_n$$ so $b_n$ is geometric progression, with $b_2=3$ so $b_1=1$ and thus $$b_n = 3^n-1$$ so $$boxeda_n+1-4a_n =3^n$$



              • Step 2

              You can also note that $$a_n+1-3a_n = 4(a_n-3a_n-1)$$ so putting $c_n=a_n-3a_n-1$ you get $$c_n+1 = 4c_n$$ so $c_n$ is geometric progression, with $c_2=4$ so $c_1=1$ and thus $$c_n = 4^n-1$$ so $$boxeda_n+1-3a_n = 4^n$$



              • Step 3

              If you substract those formulas in boxes you get:



              $$boxeda_n = 4^n- 3^n$$






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              • 7




                $begingroup$
                Well, that is elegant! (+1)
                $endgroup$
                – mrtaurho
                Jul 14 at 15:35






              • 2




                $begingroup$
                You should really explain how you just "note" that first step...
                $endgroup$
                – Mehrdad
                Jul 15 at 3:06










              • $begingroup$
                @Mehrdad it's a simple algebraic rearrangement using $a_n+1=f(n)$ to get $f(n)=7f(n-1)-12f(n-2)Rightarrow a_n+1=7a_n-12a_n-1Rightarrow ldots$.
                $endgroup$
                – Jam
                Jul 15 at 12:27











              • $begingroup$
                @Jam I gave an explanation down.
                $endgroup$
                – Aqua
                Jul 15 at 12:28






              • 1




                $begingroup$
                @Jam: I don't mean 'how' as in the mechanics of it... I mean 'how' as in, like, the inspiration. It's... not obvious.
                $endgroup$
                – Mehrdad
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              Write $a_n = f(n)$ instead.



              • Step 1

              You can note that $$a_n+1-4a_n = 3(a_n-4a_n-1)$$ so putting $b_n=a_n-4a_n-1$ you get $$b_n+1 = 3b_n$$ so $b_n$ is geometric progression, with $b_2=3$ so $b_1=1$ and thus $$b_n = 3^n-1$$ so $$boxeda_n+1-4a_n =3^n$$



              • Step 2

              You can also note that $$a_n+1-3a_n = 4(a_n-3a_n-1)$$ so putting $c_n=a_n-3a_n-1$ you get $$c_n+1 = 4c_n$$ so $c_n$ is geometric progression, with $c_2=4$ so $c_1=1$ and thus $$c_n = 4^n-1$$ so $$boxeda_n+1-3a_n = 4^n$$



              • Step 3

              If you substract those formulas in boxes you get:



              $$boxeda_n = 4^n- 3^n$$






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              Write $a_n = f(n)$ instead.



              • Step 1

              You can note that $$a_n+1-4a_n = 3(a_n-4a_n-1)$$ so putting $b_n=a_n-4a_n-1$ you get $$b_n+1 = 3b_n$$ so $b_n$ is geometric progression, with $b_2=3$ so $b_1=1$ and thus $$b_n = 3^n-1$$ so $$boxeda_n+1-4a_n =3^n$$



              • Step 2

              You can also note that $$a_n+1-3a_n = 4(a_n-3a_n-1)$$ so putting $c_n=a_n-3a_n-1$ you get $$c_n+1 = 4c_n$$ so $c_n$ is geometric progression, with $c_2=4$ so $c_1=1$ and thus $$c_n = 4^n-1$$ so $$boxeda_n+1-3a_n = 4^n$$



              • Step 3

              If you substract those formulas in boxes you get:



              $$boxeda_n = 4^n- 3^n$$







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                You should really explain how you just "note" that first step...
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                @Mehrdad it's a simple algebraic rearrangement using $a_n+1=f(n)$ to get $f(n)=7f(n-1)-12f(n-2)Rightarrow a_n+1=7a_n-12a_n-1Rightarrow ldots$.
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                @Jam I gave an explanation down.
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                Jul 15 at 12:28






              • 1




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                @Jam: I don't mean 'how' as in the mechanics of it... I mean 'how' as in, like, the inspiration. It's... not obvious.
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              • 7




                $begingroup$
                Well, that is elegant! (+1)
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                – mrtaurho
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                You should really explain how you just "note" that first step...
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                Jul 15 at 3:06










              • $begingroup$
                @Mehrdad it's a simple algebraic rearrangement using $a_n+1=f(n)$ to get $f(n)=7f(n-1)-12f(n-2)Rightarrow a_n+1=7a_n-12a_n-1Rightarrow ldots$.
                $endgroup$
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              • $begingroup$
                @Jam I gave an explanation down.
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                – Aqua
                Jul 15 at 12:28






              • 1




                $begingroup$
                @Jam: I don't mean 'how' as in the mechanics of it... I mean 'how' as in, like, the inspiration. It's... not obvious.
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                Jul 15 at 17:35







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              $begingroup$
              Well, that is elegant! (+1)
              $endgroup$
              – mrtaurho
              Jul 14 at 15:35




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              You should really explain how you just "note" that first step...
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              You should really explain how you just "note" that first step...
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              $begingroup$
              @Mehrdad it's a simple algebraic rearrangement using $a_n+1=f(n)$ to get $f(n)=7f(n-1)-12f(n-2)Rightarrow a_n+1=7a_n-12a_n-1Rightarrow ldots$.
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              @Mehrdad it's a simple algebraic rearrangement using $a_n+1=f(n)$ to get $f(n)=7f(n-1)-12f(n-2)Rightarrow a_n+1=7a_n-12a_n-1Rightarrow ldots$.
              $endgroup$
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              $begingroup$
              @Jam I gave an explanation down.
              $endgroup$
              – Aqua
              Jul 15 at 12:28




              $begingroup$
              @Jam I gave an explanation down.
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              – Aqua
              Jul 15 at 12:28




              1




              1




              $begingroup$
              @Jam: I don't mean 'how' as in the mechanics of it... I mean 'how' as in, like, the inspiration. It's... not obvious.
              $endgroup$
              – Mehrdad
              Jul 15 at 17:35




              $begingroup$
              @Jam: I don't mean 'how' as in the mechanics of it... I mean 'how' as in, like, the inspiration. It's... not obvious.
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              The characteristic equation is $x^2-7x+12=0$, which factors as $(x-3)(x-4)=0$, yielding two roots, 3 and 4. So $f(n)=acdot 3^n+bcdot 4^n$ for some constants $a$ and $b$. Now use the values of $f(1)$ and $f(2)$ to solve for $a$ and $b$.






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                  The characteristic equation is $x^2-7x+12=0$, which factors as $(x-3)(x-4)=0$, yielding two roots, 3 and 4. So $f(n)=acdot 3^n+bcdot 4^n$ for some constants $a$ and $b$. Now use the values of $f(1)$ and $f(2)$ to solve for $a$ and $b$.






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                  The characteristic equation is $x^2-7x+12=0$, which factors as $(x-3)(x-4)=0$, yielding two roots, 3 and 4. So $f(n)=acdot 3^n+bcdot 4^n$ for some constants $a$ and $b$. Now use the values of $f(1)$ and $f(2)$ to solve for $a$ and $b$.







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                      Unfortunately I don't know what your mathematical background is to know if this is a useful answer, but I'll post it for the sake of completeness.



                      What you have is a linear constant-coefficient difference equation.



                      There are lots of ways to solve them, some specialized, but the usual generic one is linear algebra:



                      beginalign*
                      overbracebeginbmatrix a_n+1 \ a_nphantom+1 endbmatrix^x_n+1
                      &= overbracebeginbmatrix 7 & -12 \ 1 & 0 endbmatrix^A
                      overbracebeginbmatrix a_nphantom-1 \ a_n-1 endbmatrix^x_n \
                      &= beginbmatrix 7 & -12 \ 1 & 0 endbmatrix^n-1
                      beginbmatrix 7 \ 1 endbmatrix
                      endalign*



                      Now you want to compute $A^n-1$, for which you'd diagonalize $A$ and get



                      beginalign*
                      A^n = beginbmatrix 4 & 1 \ 3 & 1 endbmatrix^-1beginbmatrix 4^n & 0 \ 0 & 3^n endbmatrix beginbmatrix 4 & 1 \ 3 & 1 endbmatrix
                      endalign*



                      which you can substitute to obtain $a_n+1$.






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                        Unfortunately I don't know what your mathematical background is to know if this is a useful answer, but I'll post it for the sake of completeness.



                        What you have is a linear constant-coefficient difference equation.



                        There are lots of ways to solve them, some specialized, but the usual generic one is linear algebra:



                        beginalign*
                        overbracebeginbmatrix a_n+1 \ a_nphantom+1 endbmatrix^x_n+1
                        &= overbracebeginbmatrix 7 & -12 \ 1 & 0 endbmatrix^A
                        overbracebeginbmatrix a_nphantom-1 \ a_n-1 endbmatrix^x_n \
                        &= beginbmatrix 7 & -12 \ 1 & 0 endbmatrix^n-1
                        beginbmatrix 7 \ 1 endbmatrix
                        endalign*



                        Now you want to compute $A^n-1$, for which you'd diagonalize $A$ and get



                        beginalign*
                        A^n = beginbmatrix 4 & 1 \ 3 & 1 endbmatrix^-1beginbmatrix 4^n & 0 \ 0 & 3^n endbmatrix beginbmatrix 4 & 1 \ 3 & 1 endbmatrix
                        endalign*



                        which you can substitute to obtain $a_n+1$.






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                          Unfortunately I don't know what your mathematical background is to know if this is a useful answer, but I'll post it for the sake of completeness.



                          What you have is a linear constant-coefficient difference equation.



                          There are lots of ways to solve them, some specialized, but the usual generic one is linear algebra:



                          beginalign*
                          overbracebeginbmatrix a_n+1 \ a_nphantom+1 endbmatrix^x_n+1
                          &= overbracebeginbmatrix 7 & -12 \ 1 & 0 endbmatrix^A
                          overbracebeginbmatrix a_nphantom-1 \ a_n-1 endbmatrix^x_n \
                          &= beginbmatrix 7 & -12 \ 1 & 0 endbmatrix^n-1
                          beginbmatrix 7 \ 1 endbmatrix
                          endalign*



                          Now you want to compute $A^n-1$, for which you'd diagonalize $A$ and get



                          beginalign*
                          A^n = beginbmatrix 4 & 1 \ 3 & 1 endbmatrix^-1beginbmatrix 4^n & 0 \ 0 & 3^n endbmatrix beginbmatrix 4 & 1 \ 3 & 1 endbmatrix
                          endalign*



                          which you can substitute to obtain $a_n+1$.






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                          Unfortunately I don't know what your mathematical background is to know if this is a useful answer, but I'll post it for the sake of completeness.



                          What you have is a linear constant-coefficient difference equation.



                          There are lots of ways to solve them, some specialized, but the usual generic one is linear algebra:



                          beginalign*
                          overbracebeginbmatrix a_n+1 \ a_nphantom+1 endbmatrix^x_n+1
                          &= overbracebeginbmatrix 7 & -12 \ 1 & 0 endbmatrix^A
                          overbracebeginbmatrix a_nphantom-1 \ a_n-1 endbmatrix^x_n \
                          &= beginbmatrix 7 & -12 \ 1 & 0 endbmatrix^n-1
                          beginbmatrix 7 \ 1 endbmatrix
                          endalign*



                          Now you want to compute $A^n-1$, for which you'd diagonalize $A$ and get



                          beginalign*
                          A^n = beginbmatrix 4 & 1 \ 3 & 1 endbmatrix^-1beginbmatrix 4^n & 0 \ 0 & 3^n endbmatrix beginbmatrix 4 & 1 \ 3 & 1 endbmatrix
                          endalign*



                          which you can substitute to obtain $a_n+1$.







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                              Added at request of Mehrdad.



                              Say we have $$boxeda_n+1 = (x+y)a_n-xya_n-1$$ then we can do: $$a_n+1-xa_n = y(a_n-xa_n-1)$$ and $$a_n+1-ya_n = x(a_n-ya_n-1)$$



                              Putting $boxedb_n =a_n-xa_n-1$ and $boxedc_n = a_n-ya_n-1$ we can finish as before.



                              In general $x,y$ are solution of quadratic (characteristic) equation $t^2-pt-q=0$ of recursion $$a_n+1 = pa_n+qa_n-1$$




                              One more example: $$a_n+1 = 2a_n+8a_n-1.$$ Then we can do $$a_n+1+2a_n = 4(a_n+2a_n-1)$$ and $$a_n+1-4a_n = -2(a_n-4a_n-1)$$



                              Then with $b_n =a_n+2a_n-1$ and $c_n = a_n-4a_n-1$ we are done...






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                              • $begingroup$
                                Haha thanks for adding this! I'd have just added it to your previous answer though :P people might get confused on that one without realizing this one clarifies it...
                                $endgroup$
                                – Mehrdad
                                Jul 15 at 8:33
















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                              $begingroup$

                              Added at request of Mehrdad.



                              Say we have $$boxeda_n+1 = (x+y)a_n-xya_n-1$$ then we can do: $$a_n+1-xa_n = y(a_n-xa_n-1)$$ and $$a_n+1-ya_n = x(a_n-ya_n-1)$$



                              Putting $boxedb_n =a_n-xa_n-1$ and $boxedc_n = a_n-ya_n-1$ we can finish as before.



                              In general $x,y$ are solution of quadratic (characteristic) equation $t^2-pt-q=0$ of recursion $$a_n+1 = pa_n+qa_n-1$$




                              One more example: $$a_n+1 = 2a_n+8a_n-1.$$ Then we can do $$a_n+1+2a_n = 4(a_n+2a_n-1)$$ and $$a_n+1-4a_n = -2(a_n-4a_n-1)$$



                              Then with $b_n =a_n+2a_n-1$ and $c_n = a_n-4a_n-1$ we are done...






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                              • $begingroup$
                                Haha thanks for adding this! I'd have just added it to your previous answer though :P people might get confused on that one without realizing this one clarifies it...
                                $endgroup$
                                – Mehrdad
                                Jul 15 at 8:33














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                              4







                              $begingroup$

                              Added at request of Mehrdad.



                              Say we have $$boxeda_n+1 = (x+y)a_n-xya_n-1$$ then we can do: $$a_n+1-xa_n = y(a_n-xa_n-1)$$ and $$a_n+1-ya_n = x(a_n-ya_n-1)$$



                              Putting $boxedb_n =a_n-xa_n-1$ and $boxedc_n = a_n-ya_n-1$ we can finish as before.



                              In general $x,y$ are solution of quadratic (characteristic) equation $t^2-pt-q=0$ of recursion $$a_n+1 = pa_n+qa_n-1$$




                              One more example: $$a_n+1 = 2a_n+8a_n-1.$$ Then we can do $$a_n+1+2a_n = 4(a_n+2a_n-1)$$ and $$a_n+1-4a_n = -2(a_n-4a_n-1)$$



                              Then with $b_n =a_n+2a_n-1$ and $c_n = a_n-4a_n-1$ we are done...






                              share|cite|improve this answer












                              $endgroup$



                              Added at request of Mehrdad.



                              Say we have $$boxeda_n+1 = (x+y)a_n-xya_n-1$$ then we can do: $$a_n+1-xa_n = y(a_n-xa_n-1)$$ and $$a_n+1-ya_n = x(a_n-ya_n-1)$$



                              Putting $boxedb_n =a_n-xa_n-1$ and $boxedc_n = a_n-ya_n-1$ we can finish as before.



                              In general $x,y$ are solution of quadratic (characteristic) equation $t^2-pt-q=0$ of recursion $$a_n+1 = pa_n+qa_n-1$$




                              One more example: $$a_n+1 = 2a_n+8a_n-1.$$ Then we can do $$a_n+1+2a_n = 4(a_n+2a_n-1)$$ and $$a_n+1-4a_n = -2(a_n-4a_n-1)$$



                              Then with $b_n =a_n+2a_n-1$ and $c_n = a_n-4a_n-1$ we are done...







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                              • $begingroup$
                                Haha thanks for adding this! I'd have just added it to your previous answer though :P people might get confused on that one without realizing this one clarifies it...
                                $endgroup$
                                – Mehrdad
                                Jul 15 at 8:33

















                              • $begingroup$
                                Haha thanks for adding this! I'd have just added it to your previous answer though :P people might get confused on that one without realizing this one clarifies it...
                                $endgroup$
                                – Mehrdad
                                Jul 15 at 8:33
















                              $begingroup$
                              Haha thanks for adding this! I'd have just added it to your previous answer though :P people might get confused on that one without realizing this one clarifies it...
                              $endgroup$
                              – Mehrdad
                              Jul 15 at 8:33





                              $begingroup$
                              Haha thanks for adding this! I'd have just added it to your previous answer though :P people might get confused on that one without realizing this one clarifies it...
                              $endgroup$
                              – Mehrdad
                              Jul 15 at 8:33



















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