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Left action of a group on permutation representation
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I am studying my course on permutation representation, and I am stuck at understanding the left action of a finite group on the permutation representation $F(X,Bbb C)$. In my course it is given for $(g,phi)in Gtimes F(X,Bbb C) $ by:
$g*phi(xin X)to phi(g^-1x)$.
Is this a left group action?
I have: $h*(g*phi(x))= h*phi(g^-1x)= phi(h^-1g^-1x) = phi((gh)^-1x)= (gh)*phi(x) neq (hg)*phi(x)$.
I must be missing something.
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I am studying my course on permutation representation, and I am stuck at understanding the left action of a finite group on the permutation representation $F(X,Bbb C)$. In my course it is given for $(g,phi)in Gtimes F(X,Bbb C) $ by:
$g*phi(xin X)to phi(g^-1x)$.
Is this a left group action?
I have: $h*(g*phi(x))= h*phi(g^-1x)= phi(h^-1g^-1x) = phi((gh)^-1x)= (gh)*phi(x) neq (hg)*phi(x)$.
I must be missing something.
abstract-algebra group-theory representation-theory group-actions
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I am studying my course on permutation representation, and I am stuck at understanding the left action of a finite group on the permutation representation $F(X,Bbb C)$. In my course it is given for $(g,phi)in Gtimes F(X,Bbb C) $ by:
$g*phi(xin X)to phi(g^-1x)$.
Is this a left group action?
I have: $h*(g*phi(x))= h*phi(g^-1x)= phi(h^-1g^-1x) = phi((gh)^-1x)= (gh)*phi(x) neq (hg)*phi(x)$.
I must be missing something.
abstract-algebra group-theory representation-theory group-actions
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I am studying my course on permutation representation, and I am stuck at understanding the left action of a finite group on the permutation representation $F(X,Bbb C)$. In my course it is given for $(g,phi)in Gtimes F(X,Bbb C) $ by:
$g*phi(xin X)to phi(g^-1x)$.
Is this a left group action?
I have: $h*(g*phi(x))= h*phi(g^-1x)= phi(h^-1g^-1x) = phi((gh)^-1x)= (gh)*phi(x) neq (hg)*phi(x)$.
I must be missing something.
abstract-algebra group-theory representation-theory group-actions
abstract-algebra group-theory representation-theory group-actions
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Note that by the definition $g*phi$ is in $F(X,mathbb C)$ defined by $(g*phi)(x):= phi(g^-1x)$, so the calculation is the following:
$$beginalign
(h*(g*phi))(x)&= (g*phi)(h^-1x)\
&= phi(g^-1h^-1x)\
&= phi((hg)^-1x)\
&= (hg*phi)(x).
endalign$$
Thus $h*(g*phi)= hg*phi$.
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In addition to the accepted answer I want to point out that one can also start by substituting the inner expression. Since $(g*phi)(x) := phi(g^-1x)$, we have $g*phi = x to phi(g^-1x)$, therefore
$$beginalign
(h*(g*phi))(x)
&= (h*(ttophi(g^-1t)))(x)\
&= (ttophi(g^-1t))(h^-1x)\
&= phi(g^-1(h^-1x))\
&= (hg*phi)(x).
endalign$$
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Note that by the definition $g*phi$ is in $F(X,mathbb C)$ defined by $(g*phi)(x):= phi(g^-1x)$, so the calculation is the following:
$$beginalign
(h*(g*phi))(x)&= (g*phi)(h^-1x)\
&= phi(g^-1h^-1x)\
&= phi((hg)^-1x)\
&= (hg*phi)(x).
endalign$$
Thus $h*(g*phi)= hg*phi$.
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Note that by the definition $g*phi$ is in $F(X,mathbb C)$ defined by $(g*phi)(x):= phi(g^-1x)$, so the calculation is the following:
$$beginalign
(h*(g*phi))(x)&= (g*phi)(h^-1x)\
&= phi(g^-1h^-1x)\
&= phi((hg)^-1x)\
&= (hg*phi)(x).
endalign$$
Thus $h*(g*phi)= hg*phi$.
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Note that by the definition $g*phi$ is in $F(X,mathbb C)$ defined by $(g*phi)(x):= phi(g^-1x)$, so the calculation is the following:
$$beginalign
(h*(g*phi))(x)&= (g*phi)(h^-1x)\
&= phi(g^-1h^-1x)\
&= phi((hg)^-1x)\
&= (hg*phi)(x).
endalign$$
Thus $h*(g*phi)= hg*phi$.
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Note that by the definition $g*phi$ is in $F(X,mathbb C)$ defined by $(g*phi)(x):= phi(g^-1x)$, so the calculation is the following:
$$beginalign
(h*(g*phi))(x)&= (g*phi)(h^-1x)\
&= phi(g^-1h^-1x)\
&= phi((hg)^-1x)\
&= (hg*phi)(x).
endalign$$
Thus $h*(g*phi)= hg*phi$.
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In addition to the accepted answer I want to point out that one can also start by substituting the inner expression. Since $(g*phi)(x) := phi(g^-1x)$, we have $g*phi = x to phi(g^-1x)$, therefore
$$beginalign
(h*(g*phi))(x)
&= (h*(ttophi(g^-1t)))(x)\
&= (ttophi(g^-1t))(h^-1x)\
&= phi(g^-1(h^-1x))\
&= (hg*phi)(x).
endalign$$
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In addition to the accepted answer I want to point out that one can also start by substituting the inner expression. Since $(g*phi)(x) := phi(g^-1x)$, we have $g*phi = x to phi(g^-1x)$, therefore
$$beginalign
(h*(g*phi))(x)
&= (h*(ttophi(g^-1t)))(x)\
&= (ttophi(g^-1t))(h^-1x)\
&= phi(g^-1(h^-1x))\
&= (hg*phi)(x).
endalign$$
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$begingroup$
In addition to the accepted answer I want to point out that one can also start by substituting the inner expression. Since $(g*phi)(x) := phi(g^-1x)$, we have $g*phi = x to phi(g^-1x)$, therefore
$$beginalign
(h*(g*phi))(x)
&= (h*(ttophi(g^-1t)))(x)\
&= (ttophi(g^-1t))(h^-1x)\
&= phi(g^-1(h^-1x))\
&= (hg*phi)(x).
endalign$$
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In addition to the accepted answer I want to point out that one can also start by substituting the inner expression. Since $(g*phi)(x) := phi(g^-1x)$, we have $g*phi = x to phi(g^-1x)$, therefore
$$beginalign
(h*(g*phi))(x)
&= (h*(ttophi(g^-1t)))(x)\
&= (ttophi(g^-1t))(h^-1x)\
&= phi(g^-1(h^-1x))\
&= (hg*phi)(x).
endalign$$
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