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Chord symbol and Roman numeral for naming an Augmented 6th chord
Do “augmented-six” chords always have to be bVI?Naming convention for augmented 6th chordsWhat's the difference to a player between dim7 and 7b9?Roman Numeral AnalysisWhat does this symbol mean in cello music?How do I rationalize this interesting chord in Mozart K. 331?Chord progression, how to add the bass properlyWhen a major 6th (or an octave thereof) is in a chord, when is the chord symbol written as a 6th vs. a 13th?Parallel chord substitutionsUsing standard Roman numeral analysis how should 7th and 9th qualities be determined?What should one keep in mind when writing the Neapolitan 6th chord in a chord progression?
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While there are chord symbols & Roman numerals used to name a Neapolitan 6th chord, I haven't come across either of these for naming an Augmented 6th chord. The only names written were Italian 6th, French 6th and German 6th. The symbol for each was It.6, Fr.6 and Ger.6. Is this the only way to represent this chord?
Also, while using the Augmented 6th chord in a chord progression, I read that this chord is generally followed by chord V, or it goes to chord Ic and follows the cadential 6-4 progression i.e. ic - V - i. Are these the only possible ways of using the Augmented 6th chord, or there are others?
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While there are chord symbols & Roman numerals used to name a Neapolitan 6th chord, I haven't come across either of these for naming an Augmented 6th chord. The only names written were Italian 6th, French 6th and German 6th. The symbol for each was It.6, Fr.6 and Ger.6. Is this the only way to represent this chord?
Also, while using the Augmented 6th chord in a chord progression, I read that this chord is generally followed by chord V, or it goes to chord Ic and follows the cadential 6-4 progression i.e. ic - V - i. Are these the only possible ways of using the Augmented 6th chord, or there are others?
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Closely related: Do “augmented-six” chords always have to be bVI?
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Thank you @Richard
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While there are chord symbols & Roman numerals used to name a Neapolitan 6th chord, I haven't come across either of these for naming an Augmented 6th chord. The only names written were Italian 6th, French 6th and German 6th. The symbol for each was It.6, Fr.6 and Ger.6. Is this the only way to represent this chord?
Also, while using the Augmented 6th chord in a chord progression, I read that this chord is generally followed by chord V, or it goes to chord Ic and follows the cadential 6-4 progression i.e. ic - V - i. Are these the only possible ways of using the Augmented 6th chord, or there are others?
theory chords chord-theory chord-progressions chord-inversions
asked May 28 at 13:14
GraceGrace
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While there are chord symbols & Roman numerals used to name a Neapolitan 6th chord, I haven't come across either of these for naming an Augmented 6th chord. The only names written were Italian 6th, French 6th and German 6th. The symbol for each was It.6, Fr.6 and Ger.6. Is this the only way to represent this chord?
Also, while using the Augmented 6th chord in a chord progression, I read that this chord is generally followed by chord V, or it goes to chord Ic and follows the cadential 6-4 progression i.e. ic - V - i. Are these the only possible ways of using the Augmented 6th chord, or there are others?
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Closely related: Do “augmented-six” chords always have to be bVI?
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Closely related: Do “augmented-six” chords always have to be bVI?
– Richard
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– Grace
May 29 at 3:03
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Closely related: Do “augmented-six” chords always have to be bVI?
– Richard
May 28 at 15:06
Closely related: Do “augmented-six” chords always have to be bVI?
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May 28 at 15:06
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The names It.6, Fr.6 and Ger.6 are pretty common ones. I've also seen some other names like:
IV 6# 5b for the German
IV 6# or #IV 6 for the Italian
II 6# 4 3 for the French
These are less common, but they are more "thorough" because they say on which chord they are built on and what notes are altered.
You are correct that in most cases these chords are followed by a V or I 64 chord. To be honest, I don't remember if this is a strict rule or if there are exceptions, but generally this is the case.
Here is an example of the German followed by a I 64:
And an example of the italian followed by a V:
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German...
#iv6/5
French...
ii#6/4/3
In the case of the German I put the sharp in front of the Roman numeral to show the chord root is altered. Whereas in the French the chord root is not altered, but the 6th gets the sharp because it is raised chromatically from the diatonic sixth.
Of course the point here is to make clear none of the augmented sixth chord are rooted on bVI.
answered May 28 at 15:19
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The names It.6, Fr.6 and Ger.6 are pretty common ones. I've also seen some other names like:
IV 6# 5b for the German
IV 6# or #IV 6 for the Italian
II 6# 4 3 for the French
These are less common, but they are more "thorough" because they say on which chord they are built on and what notes are altered.
You are correct that in most cases these chords are followed by a V or I 64 chord. To be honest, I don't remember if this is a strict rule or if there are exceptions, but generally this is the case.
Here is an example of the German followed by a I 64:
And an example of the italian followed by a V:
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The names It.6, Fr.6 and Ger.6 are pretty common ones. I've also seen some other names like:
IV 6# 5b for the German
IV 6# or #IV 6 for the Italian
II 6# 4 3 for the French
These are less common, but they are more "thorough" because they say on which chord they are built on and what notes are altered.
You are correct that in most cases these chords are followed by a V or I 64 chord. To be honest, I don't remember if this is a strict rule or if there are exceptions, but generally this is the case.
Here is an example of the German followed by a I 64:
And an example of the italian followed by a V:
answered May 28 at 14:29
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The names It.6, Fr.6 and Ger.6 are pretty common ones. I've also seen some other names like:
IV 6# 5b for the German
IV 6# or #IV 6 for the Italian
II 6# 4 3 for the French
These are less common, but they are more "thorough" because they say on which chord they are built on and what notes are altered.
You are correct that in most cases these chords are followed by a V or I 64 chord. To be honest, I don't remember if this is a strict rule or if there are exceptions, but generally this is the case.
Here is an example of the German followed by a I 64:
And an example of the italian followed by a V:
answered May 28 at 14:29
ShevliaskovicShevliaskovic
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The names It.6, Fr.6 and Ger.6 are pretty common ones. I've also seen some other names like:
IV 6# 5b for the German
IV 6# or #IV 6 for the Italian
II 6# 4 3 for the French
These are less common, but they are more "thorough" because they say on which chord they are built on and what notes are altered.
You are correct that in most cases these chords are followed by a V or I 64 chord. To be honest, I don't remember if this is a strict rule or if there are exceptions, but generally this is the case.
Here is an example of the German followed by a I 64:
And an example of the italian followed by a V:
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German...
#iv6/5
French...
ii#6/4/3
In the case of the German I put the sharp in front of the Roman numeral to show the chord root is altered. Whereas in the French the chord root is not altered, but the 6th gets the sharp because it is raised chromatically from the diatonic sixth.
Of course the point here is to make clear none of the augmented sixth chord are rooted on bVI.
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German...
#iv6/5
French...
ii#6/4/3
In the case of the German I put the sharp in front of the Roman numeral to show the chord root is altered. Whereas in the French the chord root is not altered, but the 6th gets the sharp because it is raised chromatically from the diatonic sixth.
Of course the point here is to make clear none of the augmented sixth chord are rooted on bVI.
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German...
#iv6/5
French...
ii#6/4/3
In the case of the German I put the sharp in front of the Roman numeral to show the chord root is altered. Whereas in the French the chord root is not altered, but the 6th gets the sharp because it is raised chromatically from the diatonic sixth.
Of course the point here is to make clear none of the augmented sixth chord are rooted on bVI.
answered May 28 at 15:19
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German...
#iv6/5
French...
ii#6/4/3
In the case of the German I put the sharp in front of the Roman numeral to show the chord root is altered. Whereas in the French the chord root is not altered, but the 6th gets the sharp because it is raised chromatically from the diatonic sixth.
Of course the point here is to make clear none of the augmented sixth chord are rooted on bVI.
answered May 28 at 15:19
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Closely related: Do “augmented-six” chords always have to be bVI?
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Thank you @Richard
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