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Around the 1970s there were a lot of manufacturers creating electric pianos like the Rhodes piano and the Wurlitzer Electronic Piano. These electric pianos don't sound very close to a real piano, but they sound great as their own thing.



Were they built as an attempt to create a realistic sounding piano that was portable/cheaper and this was the closest they got, or were they not made to sound the same, but for an intentionally different sound with a familiar keys interface?










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    Having used and lugged a Rhodes about in the 70s, I'd say Fender failed to make a portable piano!

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    @Tim Surely more portable than lugging around a grand piano though :P

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  • And also better than lugging a Hammond C3, Leslie and tone cabinet around. And both stayed better in tune than that grand. Although the upright wasn't too bad...

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    Check out the electronic "organs" for really poor tonal simulation.

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  • @Tim The Rhodes piano was invented during WW2 by Harold Rhodes: "..in 1942 he built a 29-note keyboard using aluminum tubing from a B-17 to make a xylophone-like instrument, called the Army Air Corps lap model piano." This was used to help with the rehab of wounded soldiers who were confined to bed. The Rhodes Piano Corporation was founded in '46 and wasn't sold to Fender until '59.

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Around the 1970s there were a lot of manufacturers creating electric pianos like the Rhodes piano and the Wurlitzer Electronic Piano. These electric pianos don't sound very close to a real piano, but they sound great as their own thing.



Were they built as an attempt to create a realistic sounding piano that was portable/cheaper and this was the closest they got, or were they not made to sound the same, but for an intentionally different sound with a familiar keys interface?










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    Having used and lugged a Rhodes about in the 70s, I'd say Fender failed to make a portable piano!

    – Tim
    Sep 12 at 6:25






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    @Tim Surely more portable than lugging around a grand piano though :P

    – Qwertie
    Sep 12 at 6:31











  • And also better than lugging a Hammond C3, Leslie and tone cabinet around. And both stayed better in tune than that grand. Although the upright wasn't too bad...

    – Tim
    Sep 12 at 6:33






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    Check out the electronic "organs" for really poor tonal simulation.

    – Carl Witthoft
    Sep 12 at 13:15











  • @Tim The Rhodes piano was invented during WW2 by Harold Rhodes: "..in 1942 he built a 29-note keyboard using aluminum tubing from a B-17 to make a xylophone-like instrument, called the Army Air Corps lap model piano." This was used to help with the rehab of wounded soldiers who were confined to bed. The Rhodes Piano Corporation was founded in '46 and wasn't sold to Fender until '59.

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Around the 1970s there were a lot of manufacturers creating electric pianos like the Rhodes piano and the Wurlitzer Electronic Piano. These electric pianos don't sound very close to a real piano, but they sound great as their own thing.



Were they built as an attempt to create a realistic sounding piano that was portable/cheaper and this was the closest they got, or were they not made to sound the same, but for an intentionally different sound with a familiar keys interface?










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Around the 1970s there were a lot of manufacturers creating electric pianos like the Rhodes piano and the Wurlitzer Electronic Piano. These electric pianos don't sound very close to a real piano, but they sound great as their own thing.



Were they built as an attempt to create a realistic sounding piano that was portable/cheaper and this was the closest they got, or were they not made to sound the same, but for an intentionally different sound with a familiar keys interface?







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  • 2





    Having used and lugged a Rhodes about in the 70s, I'd say Fender failed to make a portable piano!

    – Tim
    Sep 12 at 6:25






  • 2





    @Tim Surely more portable than lugging around a grand piano though :P

    – Qwertie
    Sep 12 at 6:31











  • And also better than lugging a Hammond C3, Leslie and tone cabinet around. And both stayed better in tune than that grand. Although the upright wasn't too bad...

    – Tim
    Sep 12 at 6:33






  • 1





    Check out the electronic "organs" for really poor tonal simulation.

    – Carl Witthoft
    Sep 12 at 13:15











  • @Tim The Rhodes piano was invented during WW2 by Harold Rhodes: "..in 1942 he built a 29-note keyboard using aluminum tubing from a B-17 to make a xylophone-like instrument, called the Army Air Corps lap model piano." This was used to help with the rehab of wounded soldiers who were confined to bed. The Rhodes Piano Corporation was founded in '46 and wasn't sold to Fender until '59.

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  • 2





    Having used and lugged a Rhodes about in the 70s, I'd say Fender failed to make a portable piano!

    – Tim
    Sep 12 at 6:25






  • 2





    @Tim Surely more portable than lugging around a grand piano though :P

    – Qwertie
    Sep 12 at 6:31











  • And also better than lugging a Hammond C3, Leslie and tone cabinet around. And both stayed better in tune than that grand. Although the upright wasn't too bad...

    – Tim
    Sep 12 at 6:33






  • 1





    Check out the electronic "organs" for really poor tonal simulation.

    – Carl Witthoft
    Sep 12 at 13:15











  • @Tim The Rhodes piano was invented during WW2 by Harold Rhodes: "..in 1942 he built a 29-note keyboard using aluminum tubing from a B-17 to make a xylophone-like instrument, called the Army Air Corps lap model piano." This was used to help with the rehab of wounded soldiers who were confined to bed. The Rhodes Piano Corporation was founded in '46 and wasn't sold to Fender until '59.

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Having used and lugged a Rhodes about in the 70s, I'd say Fender failed to make a portable piano!

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Having used and lugged a Rhodes about in the 70s, I'd say Fender failed to make a portable piano!

– Tim
Sep 12 at 6:25




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@Tim Surely more portable than lugging around a grand piano though :P

– Qwertie
Sep 12 at 6:31





@Tim Surely more portable than lugging around a grand piano though :P

– Qwertie
Sep 12 at 6:31













And also better than lugging a Hammond C3, Leslie and tone cabinet around. And both stayed better in tune than that grand. Although the upright wasn't too bad...

– Tim
Sep 12 at 6:33





And also better than lugging a Hammond C3, Leslie and tone cabinet around. And both stayed better in tune than that grand. Although the upright wasn't too bad...

– Tim
Sep 12 at 6:33




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Check out the electronic "organs" for really poor tonal simulation.

– Carl Witthoft
Sep 12 at 13:15





Check out the electronic "organs" for really poor tonal simulation.

– Carl Witthoft
Sep 12 at 13:15













@Tim The Rhodes piano was invented during WW2 by Harold Rhodes: "..in 1942 he built a 29-note keyboard using aluminum tubing from a B-17 to make a xylophone-like instrument, called the Army Air Corps lap model piano." This was used to help with the rehab of wounded soldiers who were confined to bed. The Rhodes Piano Corporation was founded in '46 and wasn't sold to Fender until '59.

– JimmyJames
Sep 12 at 13:34





@Tim The Rhodes piano was invented during WW2 by Harold Rhodes: "..in 1942 he built a 29-note keyboard using aluminum tubing from a B-17 to make a xylophone-like instrument, called the Army Air Corps lap model piano." This was used to help with the rehab of wounded soldiers who were confined to bed. The Rhodes Piano Corporation was founded in '46 and wasn't sold to Fender until '59.

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A lot of instruments from the analog era were supposed to sound like other "real" instruments, and were as good as technology allowed then, which is not very. But over time, some have become popular in their own right.



Electric pianos were indeed supposed to sound like acoustic pianos (although some manufacturers saw the potential of adding features like tremolo). Hammond tonewheel organs were supposed to sound like pipe organs (and were marketed as a more convenient option for churches). The Mellotron was supposed to sound like a real choir or string section. The Roland TB-303 (which later became the sound of acid house) was supposed to sound like a bass guitar. The TR-808 and TR-909 (which later became the sound of hip hop and techno respectively) were supposed to sound like a real drummer. String synths such as the Solina String Ensemble were supposed to sound like a real string section.



None of these sounds very convincing compared to the real thing, or to more recent sample-based or modelling-based digital technology. But, as you say, they were cheaper, easier to record, easier to amplify, easier to carry around, and didn't require much tuning; so they were extensively used in popular music of the time, and are now considered "classic" sounds.



Hohner advertisement from 1982, highlighting portability and affordability and promising the sound and feel of a true piano:



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    Also, practicality and convenience is much more of a constraint in some circumstances than others. It's easy enough to find a studio with a full-size grand piano; it's much harder to take one on tour — even if you can cope with the size and weight (half a ton), that's going to play merry hell with its sound, and need a full tune each time. A Wurlie or whatever was never going to fool anyone, but it did capture much more of the feel of an acoustic piano than contemporary synths. (An electric grand like a Yamaha CP70 would get closer still, but less portably.)

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    The ad also makes another key point - practicing with headphones. Not everyone who wanted to play piano had the luxury of either a soundprood studio or music room and/or family or neighbours with the patience and understanding to put up with someone boshing on a piano for hours a day.

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  • @gidds not to mention insurance...

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    Might as well include the obvious example of the electric guitar, too. In all these cases, the "electric" version was essentially built to solve logistics problems, and sound close enough - but eventually became recognized as a distinct instrument with it's own sound that was no longer really intended to duplicate the acoustic thing it was based on.

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    @dwizum I'd put the electric guitar in a different category, because it's basically the same instrument with amplification added, whereas most electric pianos were very different from acoustic pianos and used tines or reeds instead of strings.

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The prototype of the Rhodes piano was created in 1942 by Harold Rhodes which he called the "Pre-Piano". According to this Rhodes soundscape generator page:




Harold Rhodes was a piano teacher who had just developed a new and enjoyable way to learn to play the piano, when the Second World War grabbed him. While enrolled in the Army Air Corps, he kept training his buddies on the piano, during his spare time. When a hospital surgeon on the base got wind of his talent, Rhodes was asked to help rehabilitate wounded soldiers through music and learning the piano.



Unable to find a piano small enough to sit on someone’s lap while in bed, Rhodes came up with his own piano, sized like a briefcase. The “Army Air Corps piano” had two and a half octaves of regular-sized piano keys, and used small aluminum plates instead of strings. These resonating plates were cut from spare hydraulic pipes used in the wings of B-17 bombers.




Both the Rhodes and the later Wurlitzer are mechanical instruments with amplification. That is they work more like an electric guitar than a synthesizer. According to wikipedia this is what defines of 'electric piano' and makes it distinct from a synthesizer. I was unaware of this and had assumed that an electric piano was just a synth with limited customization options.



It's clear that the driver of the origin of the Rhodes was portability. The sound generation is more like a music box than an acoustic piano. I don't see any evidence that making it sound like a standard piano was a priority but other later electric pianos seem to have attempted to be more like a standard piano.



As for why this became popular in the 70s and 60s, I would think it had something to do with the popularity of rock music and amplified guitars. Another amplified instrument that could be lugged around relatively easily and patched into the same kinds amps and pedals as the electric guitars. A piano is going to have a hard time competing with Marshall stacks without some sort of amplification.



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    "That is they work more like an electric guitar than a synthesizer" -- then don't forget the Hohner Clavinet, which is essentially an electric guitar underneath a keyboard ;)

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  • @DavidBowling Great addition. This is also related: worldpianonews.com/new-product/electric-electronic-digital/…

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  • I love those old electro-mechanical keyboards; that is a cool link, and it contains another cool link to a nice Nucleus track (and is that Tony Levin on drums?)

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    That’s definitely not a clavinet but also doesn’t sound like an electric piano. Sounds more like a cheap or very old digital piano or FM synth piano sound.

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Check out the history of the creation of the Rhodes piano. To quote the article from Wikipedia:




By 1942, Rhodes was in the Army Air Corps, where he created a piano
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in hospital. He had to develop miniature pianos for bed use, that he
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So, "portability" was the motivation there (portability as in one person can bring it into an hospital room).






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    A lot of instruments from the analog era were supposed to sound like other "real" instruments, and were as good as technology allowed then, which is not very. But over time, some have become popular in their own right.



    Electric pianos were indeed supposed to sound like acoustic pianos (although some manufacturers saw the potential of adding features like tremolo). Hammond tonewheel organs were supposed to sound like pipe organs (and were marketed as a more convenient option for churches). The Mellotron was supposed to sound like a real choir or string section. The Roland TB-303 (which later became the sound of acid house) was supposed to sound like a bass guitar. The TR-808 and TR-909 (which later became the sound of hip hop and techno respectively) were supposed to sound like a real drummer. String synths such as the Solina String Ensemble were supposed to sound like a real string section.



    None of these sounds very convincing compared to the real thing, or to more recent sample-based or modelling-based digital technology. But, as you say, they were cheaper, easier to record, easier to amplify, easier to carry around, and didn't require much tuning; so they were extensively used in popular music of the time, and are now considered "classic" sounds.



    Hohner advertisement from 1982, highlighting portability and affordability and promising the sound and feel of a true piano:



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      Also, practicality and convenience is much more of a constraint in some circumstances than others. It's easy enough to find a studio with a full-size grand piano; it's much harder to take one on tour — even if you can cope with the size and weight (half a ton), that's going to play merry hell with its sound, and need a full tune each time. A Wurlie or whatever was never going to fool anyone, but it did capture much more of the feel of an acoustic piano than contemporary synths. (An electric grand like a Yamaha CP70 would get closer still, but less portably.)

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      The ad also makes another key point - practicing with headphones. Not everyone who wanted to play piano had the luxury of either a soundprood studio or music room and/or family or neighbours with the patience and understanding to put up with someone boshing on a piano for hours a day.

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      Might as well include the obvious example of the electric guitar, too. In all these cases, the "electric" version was essentially built to solve logistics problems, and sound close enough - but eventually became recognized as a distinct instrument with it's own sound that was no longer really intended to duplicate the acoustic thing it was based on.

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      @dwizum I'd put the electric guitar in a different category, because it's basically the same instrument with amplification added, whereas most electric pianos were very different from acoustic pianos and used tines or reeds instead of strings.

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    A lot of instruments from the analog era were supposed to sound like other "real" instruments, and were as good as technology allowed then, which is not very. But over time, some have become popular in their own right.



    Electric pianos were indeed supposed to sound like acoustic pianos (although some manufacturers saw the potential of adding features like tremolo). Hammond tonewheel organs were supposed to sound like pipe organs (and were marketed as a more convenient option for churches). The Mellotron was supposed to sound like a real choir or string section. The Roland TB-303 (which later became the sound of acid house) was supposed to sound like a bass guitar. The TR-808 and TR-909 (which later became the sound of hip hop and techno respectively) were supposed to sound like a real drummer. String synths such as the Solina String Ensemble were supposed to sound like a real string section.



    None of these sounds very convincing compared to the real thing, or to more recent sample-based or modelling-based digital technology. But, as you say, they were cheaper, easier to record, easier to amplify, easier to carry around, and didn't require much tuning; so they were extensively used in popular music of the time, and are now considered "classic" sounds.



    Hohner advertisement from 1982, highlighting portability and affordability and promising the sound and feel of a true piano:



    Hohner Advertisement






    share|improve this answer























    • 6





      Also, practicality and convenience is much more of a constraint in some circumstances than others. It's easy enough to find a studio with a full-size grand piano; it's much harder to take one on tour — even if you can cope with the size and weight (half a ton), that's going to play merry hell with its sound, and need a full tune each time. A Wurlie or whatever was never going to fool anyone, but it did capture much more of the feel of an acoustic piano than contemporary synths. (An electric grand like a Yamaha CP70 would get closer still, but less portably.)

      – gidds
      Sep 12 at 11:52






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      The ad also makes another key point - practicing with headphones. Not everyone who wanted to play piano had the luxury of either a soundprood studio or music room and/or family or neighbours with the patience and understanding to put up with someone boshing on a piano for hours a day.

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    • @gidds not to mention insurance...

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      Sep 12 at 13:41






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      Might as well include the obvious example of the electric guitar, too. In all these cases, the "electric" version was essentially built to solve logistics problems, and sound close enough - but eventually became recognized as a distinct instrument with it's own sound that was no longer really intended to duplicate the acoustic thing it was based on.

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      Sep 12 at 19:01






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      @dwizum I'd put the electric guitar in a different category, because it's basically the same instrument with amplification added, whereas most electric pianos were very different from acoustic pianos and used tines or reeds instead of strings.

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    A lot of instruments from the analog era were supposed to sound like other "real" instruments, and were as good as technology allowed then, which is not very. But over time, some have become popular in their own right.



    Electric pianos were indeed supposed to sound like acoustic pianos (although some manufacturers saw the potential of adding features like tremolo). Hammond tonewheel organs were supposed to sound like pipe organs (and were marketed as a more convenient option for churches). The Mellotron was supposed to sound like a real choir or string section. The Roland TB-303 (which later became the sound of acid house) was supposed to sound like a bass guitar. The TR-808 and TR-909 (which later became the sound of hip hop and techno respectively) were supposed to sound like a real drummer. String synths such as the Solina String Ensemble were supposed to sound like a real string section.



    None of these sounds very convincing compared to the real thing, or to more recent sample-based or modelling-based digital technology. But, as you say, they were cheaper, easier to record, easier to amplify, easier to carry around, and didn't require much tuning; so they were extensively used in popular music of the time, and are now considered "classic" sounds.



    Hohner advertisement from 1982, highlighting portability and affordability and promising the sound and feel of a true piano:



    Hohner Advertisement






    share|improve this answer
















    A lot of instruments from the analog era were supposed to sound like other "real" instruments, and were as good as technology allowed then, which is not very. But over time, some have become popular in their own right.



    Electric pianos were indeed supposed to sound like acoustic pianos (although some manufacturers saw the potential of adding features like tremolo). Hammond tonewheel organs were supposed to sound like pipe organs (and were marketed as a more convenient option for churches). The Mellotron was supposed to sound like a real choir or string section. The Roland TB-303 (which later became the sound of acid house) was supposed to sound like a bass guitar. The TR-808 and TR-909 (which later became the sound of hip hop and techno respectively) were supposed to sound like a real drummer. String synths such as the Solina String Ensemble were supposed to sound like a real string section.



    None of these sounds very convincing compared to the real thing, or to more recent sample-based or modelling-based digital technology. But, as you say, they were cheaper, easier to record, easier to amplify, easier to carry around, and didn't require much tuning; so they were extensively used in popular music of the time, and are now considered "classic" sounds.



    Hohner advertisement from 1982, highlighting portability and affordability and promising the sound and feel of a true piano:



    Hohner Advertisement







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      Also, practicality and convenience is much more of a constraint in some circumstances than others. It's easy enough to find a studio with a full-size grand piano; it's much harder to take one on tour — even if you can cope with the size and weight (half a ton), that's going to play merry hell with its sound, and need a full tune each time. A Wurlie or whatever was never going to fool anyone, but it did capture much more of the feel of an acoustic piano than contemporary synths. (An electric grand like a Yamaha CP70 would get closer still, but less portably.)

      – gidds
      Sep 12 at 11:52






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      The ad also makes another key point - practicing with headphones. Not everyone who wanted to play piano had the luxury of either a soundprood studio or music room and/or family or neighbours with the patience and understanding to put up with someone boshing on a piano for hours a day.

      – J...
      Sep 12 at 12:13











    • @gidds not to mention insurance...

      – Stian Yttervik
      Sep 12 at 13:41






    • 4





      Might as well include the obvious example of the electric guitar, too. In all these cases, the "electric" version was essentially built to solve logistics problems, and sound close enough - but eventually became recognized as a distinct instrument with it's own sound that was no longer really intended to duplicate the acoustic thing it was based on.

      – dwizum
      Sep 12 at 19:01






    • 2





      @dwizum I'd put the electric guitar in a different category, because it's basically the same instrument with amplification added, whereas most electric pianos were very different from acoustic pianos and used tines or reeds instead of strings.

      – Your Uncle Bob
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    • 6





      Also, practicality and convenience is much more of a constraint in some circumstances than others. It's easy enough to find a studio with a full-size grand piano; it's much harder to take one on tour — even if you can cope with the size and weight (half a ton), that's going to play merry hell with its sound, and need a full tune each time. A Wurlie or whatever was never going to fool anyone, but it did capture much more of the feel of an acoustic piano than contemporary synths. (An electric grand like a Yamaha CP70 would get closer still, but less portably.)

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      The ad also makes another key point - practicing with headphones. Not everyone who wanted to play piano had the luxury of either a soundprood studio or music room and/or family or neighbours with the patience and understanding to put up with someone boshing on a piano for hours a day.

      – J...
      Sep 12 at 12:13











    • @gidds not to mention insurance...

      – Stian Yttervik
      Sep 12 at 13:41






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      Might as well include the obvious example of the electric guitar, too. In all these cases, the "electric" version was essentially built to solve logistics problems, and sound close enough - but eventually became recognized as a distinct instrument with it's own sound that was no longer really intended to duplicate the acoustic thing it was based on.

      – dwizum
      Sep 12 at 19:01






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      @dwizum I'd put the electric guitar in a different category, because it's basically the same instrument with amplification added, whereas most electric pianos were very different from acoustic pianos and used tines or reeds instead of strings.

      – Your Uncle Bob
      Sep 13 at 0:51







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    Also, practicality and convenience is much more of a constraint in some circumstances than others. It's easy enough to find a studio with a full-size grand piano; it's much harder to take one on tour — even if you can cope with the size and weight (half a ton), that's going to play merry hell with its sound, and need a full tune each time. A Wurlie or whatever was never going to fool anyone, but it did capture much more of the feel of an acoustic piano than contemporary synths. (An electric grand like a Yamaha CP70 would get closer still, but less portably.)

    – gidds
    Sep 12 at 11:52





    Also, practicality and convenience is much more of a constraint in some circumstances than others. It's easy enough to find a studio with a full-size grand piano; it's much harder to take one on tour — even if you can cope with the size and weight (half a ton), that's going to play merry hell with its sound, and need a full tune each time. A Wurlie or whatever was never going to fool anyone, but it did capture much more of the feel of an acoustic piano than contemporary synths. (An electric grand like a Yamaha CP70 would get closer still, but less portably.)

    – gidds
    Sep 12 at 11:52




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    The ad also makes another key point - practicing with headphones. Not everyone who wanted to play piano had the luxury of either a soundprood studio or music room and/or family or neighbours with the patience and understanding to put up with someone boshing on a piano for hours a day.

    – J...
    Sep 12 at 12:13





    The ad also makes another key point - practicing with headphones. Not everyone who wanted to play piano had the luxury of either a soundprood studio or music room and/or family or neighbours with the patience and understanding to put up with someone boshing on a piano for hours a day.

    – J...
    Sep 12 at 12:13













    @gidds not to mention insurance...

    – Stian Yttervik
    Sep 12 at 13:41





    @gidds not to mention insurance...

    – Stian Yttervik
    Sep 12 at 13:41




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    Might as well include the obvious example of the electric guitar, too. In all these cases, the "electric" version was essentially built to solve logistics problems, and sound close enough - but eventually became recognized as a distinct instrument with it's own sound that was no longer really intended to duplicate the acoustic thing it was based on.

    – dwizum
    Sep 12 at 19:01





    Might as well include the obvious example of the electric guitar, too. In all these cases, the "electric" version was essentially built to solve logistics problems, and sound close enough - but eventually became recognized as a distinct instrument with it's own sound that was no longer really intended to duplicate the acoustic thing it was based on.

    – dwizum
    Sep 12 at 19:01




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    @dwizum I'd put the electric guitar in a different category, because it's basically the same instrument with amplification added, whereas most electric pianos were very different from acoustic pianos and used tines or reeds instead of strings.

    – Your Uncle Bob
    Sep 13 at 0:51





    @dwizum I'd put the electric guitar in a different category, because it's basically the same instrument with amplification added, whereas most electric pianos were very different from acoustic pianos and used tines or reeds instead of strings.

    – Your Uncle Bob
    Sep 13 at 0:51













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    The prototype of the Rhodes piano was created in 1942 by Harold Rhodes which he called the "Pre-Piano". According to this Rhodes soundscape generator page:




    Harold Rhodes was a piano teacher who had just developed a new and enjoyable way to learn to play the piano, when the Second World War grabbed him. While enrolled in the Army Air Corps, he kept training his buddies on the piano, during his spare time. When a hospital surgeon on the base got wind of his talent, Rhodes was asked to help rehabilitate wounded soldiers through music and learning the piano.



    Unable to find a piano small enough to sit on someone’s lap while in bed, Rhodes came up with his own piano, sized like a briefcase. The “Army Air Corps piano” had two and a half octaves of regular-sized piano keys, and used small aluminum plates instead of strings. These resonating plates were cut from spare hydraulic pipes used in the wings of B-17 bombers.




    Both the Rhodes and the later Wurlitzer are mechanical instruments with amplification. That is they work more like an electric guitar than a synthesizer. According to wikipedia this is what defines of 'electric piano' and makes it distinct from a synthesizer. I was unaware of this and had assumed that an electric piano was just a synth with limited customization options.



    It's clear that the driver of the origin of the Rhodes was portability. The sound generation is more like a music box than an acoustic piano. I don't see any evidence that making it sound like a standard piano was a priority but other later electric pianos seem to have attempted to be more like a standard piano.



    As for why this became popular in the 70s and 60s, I would think it had something to do with the popularity of rock music and amplified guitars. Another amplified instrument that could be lugged around relatively easily and patched into the same kinds amps and pedals as the electric guitars. A piano is going to have a hard time competing with Marshall stacks without some sort of amplification.



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      "That is they work more like an electric guitar than a synthesizer" -- then don't forget the Hohner Clavinet, which is essentially an electric guitar underneath a keyboard ;)

      – ex nihilo
      Sep 12 at 15:15











    • @DavidBowling Great addition. This is also related: worldpianonews.com/new-product/electric-electronic-digital/…

      – JimmyJames
      Sep 12 at 15:21











    • I love those old electro-mechanical keyboards; that is a cool link, and it contains another cool link to a nice Nucleus track (and is that Tony Levin on drums?)

      – ex nihilo
      Sep 12 at 15:53











    • @DavidBowling I've been curious as to what the keyboard is on Fela's Water Get No Enemy. I was thinking electric piano but maybe that's a clavinet?

      – JimmyJames
      Sep 12 at 16:53






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      That’s definitely not a clavinet but also doesn’t sound like an electric piano. Sounds more like a cheap or very old digital piano or FM synth piano sound.

      – Todd Wilcox
      Sep 12 at 20:36















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    The prototype of the Rhodes piano was created in 1942 by Harold Rhodes which he called the "Pre-Piano". According to this Rhodes soundscape generator page:




    Harold Rhodes was a piano teacher who had just developed a new and enjoyable way to learn to play the piano, when the Second World War grabbed him. While enrolled in the Army Air Corps, he kept training his buddies on the piano, during his spare time. When a hospital surgeon on the base got wind of his talent, Rhodes was asked to help rehabilitate wounded soldiers through music and learning the piano.



    Unable to find a piano small enough to sit on someone’s lap while in bed, Rhodes came up with his own piano, sized like a briefcase. The “Army Air Corps piano” had two and a half octaves of regular-sized piano keys, and used small aluminum plates instead of strings. These resonating plates were cut from spare hydraulic pipes used in the wings of B-17 bombers.




    Both the Rhodes and the later Wurlitzer are mechanical instruments with amplification. That is they work more like an electric guitar than a synthesizer. According to wikipedia this is what defines of 'electric piano' and makes it distinct from a synthesizer. I was unaware of this and had assumed that an electric piano was just a synth with limited customization options.



    It's clear that the driver of the origin of the Rhodes was portability. The sound generation is more like a music box than an acoustic piano. I don't see any evidence that making it sound like a standard piano was a priority but other later electric pianos seem to have attempted to be more like a standard piano.



    As for why this became popular in the 70s and 60s, I would think it had something to do with the popularity of rock music and amplified guitars. Another amplified instrument that could be lugged around relatively easily and patched into the same kinds amps and pedals as the electric guitars. A piano is going to have a hard time competing with Marshall stacks without some sort of amplification.



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    share|improve this answer























    • 1





      "That is they work more like an electric guitar than a synthesizer" -- then don't forget the Hohner Clavinet, which is essentially an electric guitar underneath a keyboard ;)

      – ex nihilo
      Sep 12 at 15:15











    • @DavidBowling Great addition. This is also related: worldpianonews.com/new-product/electric-electronic-digital/…

      – JimmyJames
      Sep 12 at 15:21











    • I love those old electro-mechanical keyboards; that is a cool link, and it contains another cool link to a nice Nucleus track (and is that Tony Levin on drums?)

      – ex nihilo
      Sep 12 at 15:53











    • @DavidBowling I've been curious as to what the keyboard is on Fela's Water Get No Enemy. I was thinking electric piano but maybe that's a clavinet?

      – JimmyJames
      Sep 12 at 16:53






    • 1





      That’s definitely not a clavinet but also doesn’t sound like an electric piano. Sounds more like a cheap or very old digital piano or FM synth piano sound.

      – Todd Wilcox
      Sep 12 at 20:36













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    The prototype of the Rhodes piano was created in 1942 by Harold Rhodes which he called the "Pre-Piano". According to this Rhodes soundscape generator page:




    Harold Rhodes was a piano teacher who had just developed a new and enjoyable way to learn to play the piano, when the Second World War grabbed him. While enrolled in the Army Air Corps, he kept training his buddies on the piano, during his spare time. When a hospital surgeon on the base got wind of his talent, Rhodes was asked to help rehabilitate wounded soldiers through music and learning the piano.



    Unable to find a piano small enough to sit on someone’s lap while in bed, Rhodes came up with his own piano, sized like a briefcase. The “Army Air Corps piano” had two and a half octaves of regular-sized piano keys, and used small aluminum plates instead of strings. These resonating plates were cut from spare hydraulic pipes used in the wings of B-17 bombers.




    Both the Rhodes and the later Wurlitzer are mechanical instruments with amplification. That is they work more like an electric guitar than a synthesizer. According to wikipedia this is what defines of 'electric piano' and makes it distinct from a synthesizer. I was unaware of this and had assumed that an electric piano was just a synth with limited customization options.



    It's clear that the driver of the origin of the Rhodes was portability. The sound generation is more like a music box than an acoustic piano. I don't see any evidence that making it sound like a standard piano was a priority but other later electric pianos seem to have attempted to be more like a standard piano.



    As for why this became popular in the 70s and 60s, I would think it had something to do with the popularity of rock music and amplified guitars. Another amplified instrument that could be lugged around relatively easily and patched into the same kinds amps and pedals as the electric guitars. A piano is going to have a hard time competing with Marshall stacks without some sort of amplification.



    enter image description here






    share|improve this answer
















    The prototype of the Rhodes piano was created in 1942 by Harold Rhodes which he called the "Pre-Piano". According to this Rhodes soundscape generator page:




    Harold Rhodes was a piano teacher who had just developed a new and enjoyable way to learn to play the piano, when the Second World War grabbed him. While enrolled in the Army Air Corps, he kept training his buddies on the piano, during his spare time. When a hospital surgeon on the base got wind of his talent, Rhodes was asked to help rehabilitate wounded soldiers through music and learning the piano.



    Unable to find a piano small enough to sit on someone’s lap while in bed, Rhodes came up with his own piano, sized like a briefcase. The “Army Air Corps piano” had two and a half octaves of regular-sized piano keys, and used small aluminum plates instead of strings. These resonating plates were cut from spare hydraulic pipes used in the wings of B-17 bombers.




    Both the Rhodes and the later Wurlitzer are mechanical instruments with amplification. That is they work more like an electric guitar than a synthesizer. According to wikipedia this is what defines of 'electric piano' and makes it distinct from a synthesizer. I was unaware of this and had assumed that an electric piano was just a synth with limited customization options.



    It's clear that the driver of the origin of the Rhodes was portability. The sound generation is more like a music box than an acoustic piano. I don't see any evidence that making it sound like a standard piano was a priority but other later electric pianos seem to have attempted to be more like a standard piano.



    As for why this became popular in the 70s and 60s, I would think it had something to do with the popularity of rock music and amplified guitars. Another amplified instrument that could be lugged around relatively easily and patched into the same kinds amps and pedals as the electric guitars. A piano is going to have a hard time competing with Marshall stacks without some sort of amplification.



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      "That is they work more like an electric guitar than a synthesizer" -- then don't forget the Hohner Clavinet, which is essentially an electric guitar underneath a keyboard ;)

      – ex nihilo
      Sep 12 at 15:15











    • @DavidBowling Great addition. This is also related: worldpianonews.com/new-product/electric-electronic-digital/…

      – JimmyJames
      Sep 12 at 15:21











    • I love those old electro-mechanical keyboards; that is a cool link, and it contains another cool link to a nice Nucleus track (and is that Tony Levin on drums?)

      – ex nihilo
      Sep 12 at 15:53











    • @DavidBowling I've been curious as to what the keyboard is on Fela's Water Get No Enemy. I was thinking electric piano but maybe that's a clavinet?

      – JimmyJames
      Sep 12 at 16:53






    • 1





      That’s definitely not a clavinet but also doesn’t sound like an electric piano. Sounds more like a cheap or very old digital piano or FM synth piano sound.

      – Todd Wilcox
      Sep 12 at 20:36












    • 1





      "That is they work more like an electric guitar than a synthesizer" -- then don't forget the Hohner Clavinet, which is essentially an electric guitar underneath a keyboard ;)

      – ex nihilo
      Sep 12 at 15:15











    • @DavidBowling Great addition. This is also related: worldpianonews.com/new-product/electric-electronic-digital/…

      – JimmyJames
      Sep 12 at 15:21











    • I love those old electro-mechanical keyboards; that is a cool link, and it contains another cool link to a nice Nucleus track (and is that Tony Levin on drums?)

      – ex nihilo
      Sep 12 at 15:53











    • @DavidBowling I've been curious as to what the keyboard is on Fela's Water Get No Enemy. I was thinking electric piano but maybe that's a clavinet?

      – JimmyJames
      Sep 12 at 16:53






    • 1





      That’s definitely not a clavinet but also doesn’t sound like an electric piano. Sounds more like a cheap or very old digital piano or FM synth piano sound.

      – Todd Wilcox
      Sep 12 at 20:36







    1




    1





    "That is they work more like an electric guitar than a synthesizer" -- then don't forget the Hohner Clavinet, which is essentially an electric guitar underneath a keyboard ;)

    – ex nihilo
    Sep 12 at 15:15





    "That is they work more like an electric guitar than a synthesizer" -- then don't forget the Hohner Clavinet, which is essentially an electric guitar underneath a keyboard ;)

    – ex nihilo
    Sep 12 at 15:15













    @DavidBowling Great addition. This is also related: worldpianonews.com/new-product/electric-electronic-digital/…

    – JimmyJames
    Sep 12 at 15:21





    @DavidBowling Great addition. This is also related: worldpianonews.com/new-product/electric-electronic-digital/…

    – JimmyJames
    Sep 12 at 15:21













    I love those old electro-mechanical keyboards; that is a cool link, and it contains another cool link to a nice Nucleus track (and is that Tony Levin on drums?)

    – ex nihilo
    Sep 12 at 15:53





    I love those old electro-mechanical keyboards; that is a cool link, and it contains another cool link to a nice Nucleus track (and is that Tony Levin on drums?)

    – ex nihilo
    Sep 12 at 15:53













    @DavidBowling I've been curious as to what the keyboard is on Fela's Water Get No Enemy. I was thinking electric piano but maybe that's a clavinet?

    – JimmyJames
    Sep 12 at 16:53





    @DavidBowling I've been curious as to what the keyboard is on Fela's Water Get No Enemy. I was thinking electric piano but maybe that's a clavinet?

    – JimmyJames
    Sep 12 at 16:53




    1




    1





    That’s definitely not a clavinet but also doesn’t sound like an electric piano. Sounds more like a cheap or very old digital piano or FM synth piano sound.

    – Todd Wilcox
    Sep 12 at 20:36





    That’s definitely not a clavinet but also doesn’t sound like an electric piano. Sounds more like a cheap or very old digital piano or FM synth piano sound.

    – Todd Wilcox
    Sep 12 at 20:36











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    Check out the history of the creation of the Rhodes piano. To quote the article from Wikipedia:




    By 1942, Rhodes was in the Army Air Corps, where he created a piano
    teaching method to provide therapy for soldiers recovering from combat
    in hospital. He had to develop miniature pianos for bed use, that he
    made from old scrapped airplanes.




    So, "portability" was the motivation there (portability as in one person can bring it into an hospital room).






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      Check out the history of the creation of the Rhodes piano. To quote the article from Wikipedia:




      By 1942, Rhodes was in the Army Air Corps, where he created a piano
      teaching method to provide therapy for soldiers recovering from combat
      in hospital. He had to develop miniature pianos for bed use, that he
      made from old scrapped airplanes.




      So, "portability" was the motivation there (portability as in one person can bring it into an hospital room).






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        Check out the history of the creation of the Rhodes piano. To quote the article from Wikipedia:




        By 1942, Rhodes was in the Army Air Corps, where he created a piano
        teaching method to provide therapy for soldiers recovering from combat
        in hospital. He had to develop miniature pianos for bed use, that he
        made from old scrapped airplanes.




        So, "portability" was the motivation there (portability as in one person can bring it into an hospital room).






        share|improve this answer
















        Check out the history of the creation of the Rhodes piano. To quote the article from Wikipedia:




        By 1942, Rhodes was in the Army Air Corps, where he created a piano
        teaching method to provide therapy for soldiers recovering from combat
        in hospital. He had to develop miniature pianos for bed use, that he
        made from old scrapped airplanes.




        So, "portability" was the motivation there (portability as in one person can bring it into an hospital room).







        share|improve this answer















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