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Wikipedia has an interesting article on the meaning of the check mark "✓" in different cultures. In the English-speaking world, "✓" generally has a positive connotation — "yes, OK, correct, acknowledged" — perhaps to be contrasted with "✗" — "no, wrong, bad."
However, Wikipedia has no information on the history of how the mark came to mean what it means, or how far back we can trace its use in the West. What they do have is some disputed folk etymologies, such as "maybe ✓ evolved from V as in Vrai or Veritas" and "maybe ✓ evolved from r as in right or richtig." Quora adds: "Maybe ✓ evolved from ν as in νίκη."
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Wikipedia has an interesting article on the meaning of the check mark "✓" in different cultures. In the English-speaking world, "✓" generally has a positive connotation — "yes, OK, correct, acknowledged" — perhaps to be contrasted with "✗" — "no, wrong, bad."
However, Wikipedia has no information on the history of how the mark came to mean what it means, or how far back we can trace its use in the West. What they do have is some disputed folk etymologies, such as "maybe ✓ evolved from V as in Vrai or Veritas" and "maybe ✓ evolved from r as in right or richtig." Quora adds: "Maybe ✓ evolved from ν as in νίκη."
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Wikipedia has an interesting article on the meaning of the check mark "✓" in different cultures. In the English-speaking world, "✓" generally has a positive connotation — "yes, OK, correct, acknowledged" — perhaps to be contrasted with "✗" — "no, wrong, bad."
However, Wikipedia has no information on the history of how the mark came to mean what it means, or how far back we can trace its use in the West. What they do have is some disputed folk etymologies, such as "maybe ✓ evolved from V as in Vrai or Veritas" and "maybe ✓ evolved from r as in right or richtig." Quora adds: "Maybe ✓ evolved from ν as in νίκη."
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Wikipedia has an interesting article on the meaning of the check mark "✓" in different cultures. In the English-speaking world, "✓" generally has a positive connotation — "yes, OK, correct, acknowledged" — perhaps to be contrasted with "✗" — "no, wrong, bad."
However, Wikipedia has no information on the history of how the mark came to mean what it means, or how far back we can trace its use in the West. What they do have is some disputed folk etymologies, such as "maybe ✓ evolved from V as in Vrai or Veritas" and "maybe ✓ evolved from r as in right or richtig." Quora adds: "Maybe ✓ evolved from ν as in νίκη."
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The furthest back I've gotten so far isn't very far back at all. From a court transcript in 1877 or 1878:
Q: Place upon the blackboard the signs that you used in applications
for insurance.
A: For what?
Q: Certain stenographic signs?
A: Yes, sir; there was the ordinary tick mark.
Q: Go and make them please; show what meant yes and show what meant no.
A: V is yes, and X, no.
Q: These signs have been the subject of a great deal of criticism in the
courts of this State, haven't they?
A: Not that I know of.
Q: Is it not true that in Ohio a law has been passed forbidding the use of these signs?
A: I do not know.
Google Books also has some hits in a non-free document they date to "1746," but the wording and typography both lead me to believe that Google Books is just flat wrong about the date of this document.
13
Now I'm really curious why did Ohio ban checkmark.
– Tomáš Zato
May 31 at 10:39
10
@TomášZato: The context in the court transcript (of which I only read a very small part) strongly implies that the marks were banned because it is trivially easy to add two little tails onto a ✓ thus turning it into an ✗, which enables fraud. See also: youtu.be/hAHPOoVjRMA
– Quuxplusone
May 31 at 14:52
1
I don't know the actual date of the alleged 1746 document, but it's certainly no older than 1955. Google (not just Books) is notorious for having the wrong date on things.
– Laurel
Jun 1 at 1:41
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From the OED (1928)
Tick sb.3
...
3. A small dot or dash (often formed by two small strokes at an acute angle), made with a pen or pencil, to draw attention to something or to mark a name, figure, etc. as having been noted or
checked.
1844 Frazer's Mag. XXX 88/1
Neat pencil ticks indicated favourite passages.
Also
Tick v.1
...
3. trans. To mark (a name, an item in a list, etc.) with a tick; to mark off with a tick as noted, passed, or done with.
1861 Dickens Great Expectations xxxiv
I compared each with the bill and ticked it off.
The etymology of both usages is apparently (but not definitely) from the Dutch tik, pat, light touch or tick, and tikken, to pat or touch lightly.
I posit that the first small down stroke is just a stylized attempt to avoid the small blot which, as anyone who has used a fountain pen knows, frequently appears as pen touches paper.
Further, the linguistic relation to tick in other usages as the smallest distinct form, whether as an insect or the movement of a clock, in this case would be "the smallest distinct mark with which to unobtrusively mark up a written document with pen or pencil."
Linguistically a check mark is simply any mark with which one has checked items. Various possible check marks include "x-es" and "tick marks", as well as a host of other small marks used by proof readers, editors, accountants (auditing firms require a multi-page glossary of all the various check marks used for their audit trails!), etc.
"I posit that the first small down stroke is just a stylized attempt to avoid the small blot": Does that conjecture produce a conjectured lower bound for its appearance? Coincidentally, I was just reading how the ballpoint pen killed cursive — given enough time, will it kill the check mark too? (Millennials, man! Always killing industries!)
– Quuxplusone
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The origin story laid out in the wikipedia page seems to be a reinterpretation of an older symbol and its meaning at best, and pure invention at worse.
Critical Notes on Graeco-Roman Ostraca, Herbert C. Youtie (1945) makes a passing mention, in footnote 96, of the use of checkmarks in what seems to be 3rd or 4th century papyri written in Greek:
Horizontal lines are drawn also under Col. 1.10 and Col. 2.1, 8, 13, where no headings are used. They extend the full width of the column, as if to mark offsections of the text. In this they differ from horizontal check marks, which rarely run more than a few centimeters into the column (P. Mich. 4, plates 1–4). An oblique check mark precedes Col. 1.6. On the use of the oblique line in this way see P. Col. 2, p. 39.
If I am not mistaking he's referring to papyri from this collection (which seems to have several tomes, and of which Youtie is a co-author). You can see the plates at the end of the book.
The same author discusses the meaning in Parerga Ostracologica (1942), pp. 66–67:
In the left margin, toward the edge of the ostracon, the photograph reveals a large and bold cross, much like x, seemingly made by a second hand. This is the marginal decussis, which has become familiar as a check-mark from P. Col. II.1 Recto 6 (cf. p. 165); P. bibl.univ. Giss. vi.49 Verso. I. 8; P. Tebt. i.103, where it is followed by a heavy dot, which is also known as an accounting device (P. Tebt. iii.845, introd.); P. Tebt. iii.834, introd. In the tax rolls from Karanis (e.g., P. Mich. iv.224.507, 818, 824) it is used to mark [greek word]. In literary manuscripts it may mark an omission repaired in the margin or a passage for which a marginal scholion has been provided. In the Thucydides text in P. Oxy. xiii.1620, the decussis as well as other signs refer to variant readings entered in the upper margin.
Which, to me, reads like it means "checked/done/verified".
The symbol itself seems to predate this. In Ancient Egyptian Mathematics, Clara Silvia Roero (1994) (p 53–54 in this pdf preview) notes the use of check marks by ancient Egyptian scribes when doing multiplications and divisions (sorry for the poor formatting, the pdf preview is missing crucial formatting and possibly symbols):
To multiply 12 by 7, the scribe proceeded thus: 1 7 2 14 4 28 8 56
Totals 12 84 The first column contains the powers of 2 and the second
one a factor of multiplication successively doubled. The scribe placed
a check mark along side the numbers in the first column that totalled
12, i.e. 4 + 8; the sum of the corresponding numbers in the second
column, i.e. 28 + 56, then produced the result. This algorithm for
multiplication was based on the arithmetical property that any integer
can be expressed uniquely as the sum of certain terms of the
geometrical progression 2 °, 2 1 , 2 2 , ••• , 2 k, . . . . The
technique for division was the same as that for multiplication. For
these operations the ancient Egyptians sometimes used not only 2 but
other multipliers too, such as 10. For example, in the Rhind Papyrus
(problem 36 69) 1120 + 80 is calculated, a division with an exact
quotient: 80 10 800/ 2 160 4 320/ Totals 14 1120 The scribe set out to
obtain the dividend 1120 in the second column, so he multiplied the
divisor 80 by 10 and then successively doubled it until a number was
reached which, when added to 800, gave 1120. In this case the check
mark was placed alongside the numbers in the second column that
totalled 1120; the required quotient was then the sum of the
corresponding numbers in the first column. This technique is simple
enough when the two integers are divisible; when the quotient was not
a whole number the scribe used fractions. This example is taken from
the Rhind Papyrus (problem 24)
That too, to me at least, kind of reads like it means "checked/done/verified".
The Rhind Mathematical Papyrus dates to around 1550 BC, which makes the unsourced origin story suggested in Wikipedia seem dubious.
Discussing the other end of the fertile crescent, Life at the bottom of Babylonian society: Servile laborers at Nippur in the 14TH and 13TH centuries B.C. (2009), by Jonathan Stuart Tenney, discusses the use of checkmarks in Babylonia around the same period. I failed to access an online pdf version. Google Scholar offers this helpful preview snippet that leaves no doubt that, there too, it meant "checked/done/verified":
All allocations are intended as rations (AE.BA); and, if an allocation was disbursed, a check mark was placed to the left of the recipient's name.
(However, Ilmari Karonen in the comments raises that they were literally just marks, so while I leave this example so his comments are in context, disregard it.)
Put together, I've no idea of the symbol's origin, but it seems to me that the symbol, and the meaning it carries in English, predates Graeco-Roman times.
Ancient Romans used an abacus to perform arithmetic operations. Medieval and Renaissance attempts to reconstruct so-called Roman arithmetic are fanciful concoctions of the mind. The notion that Romans converted their base 5/10 system to binary notation (that is what your *geometrical progression is) to perform arithmetic, then converting back to Roman Numerals, is simply absurd.
– Pieter Geerkens
May 31 at 4:02
@PieterGeerkens: I've no idea what you're referring to. I do not mention Romans at all in my answer, except to suggest that the wiki claim that the Roman origin of the check mark is a V as in Veritas is dubious..
– Denis de Bernardy
May 31 at 5:21
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The Babylonian "check marks" mentioned by Tenney would surely have been nothing like the modern ✓ symbol, except possibly in their purpose. In fact, I managed to access the book via my local university library, and found a better description on page 10: "On account tablets small indentations were sometimes made with a stylus, usually placed at the left of a worker’s name, presumably to indicate whether the listed ration has been issued. We will call these check marks." (Also, you — or Google — misspelled ŠE.BA = literally "grain ration".)
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 11:47
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Ps. I managed to find pictures of some of the Babylonian tablets mentioned by Tenney in the footnotes, such as tablets BE 15 160, 188 and 190. The "check marks", AFAICT, are the holes poked into the clay (in the latter two tablets through a cuneiform sign, partly defacing it) that appear as vertical columns of dark pits in the photos, and as hollow ovals in the line art.
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 12:44
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BTW, it's mildly interesting to note that those marks must have been made after the clay tablet was written — since they sometimes deface pre-existing signs, and no sane scribe would spend time writing a sign just to immediately erase it, and repeat that several times — but not too long after, or the clay would've dried and hardened. One might guess that those lists were written (perhaps copied from another tablet) shortly before the rations were dispensed, and the names then checked off one by one while the clay was still soft. In some ways, writing on paper sure is a lot more convenient...
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 13:00
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The furthest back I've gotten so far isn't very far back at all. From a court transcript in 1877 or 1878:
Q: Place upon the blackboard the signs that you used in applications
for insurance.
A: For what?
Q: Certain stenographic signs?
A: Yes, sir; there was the ordinary tick mark.
Q: Go and make them please; show what meant yes and show what meant no.
A: V is yes, and X, no.
Q: These signs have been the subject of a great deal of criticism in the
courts of this State, haven't they?
A: Not that I know of.
Q: Is it not true that in Ohio a law has been passed forbidding the use of these signs?
A: I do not know.
Google Books also has some hits in a non-free document they date to "1746," but the wording and typography both lead me to believe that Google Books is just flat wrong about the date of this document.
13
Now I'm really curious why did Ohio ban checkmark.
– Tomáš Zato
May 31 at 10:39
10
@TomášZato: The context in the court transcript (of which I only read a very small part) strongly implies that the marks were banned because it is trivially easy to add two little tails onto a ✓ thus turning it into an ✗, which enables fraud. See also: youtu.be/hAHPOoVjRMA
– Quuxplusone
May 31 at 14:52
1
I don't know the actual date of the alleged 1746 document, but it's certainly no older than 1955. Google (not just Books) is notorious for having the wrong date on things.
– Laurel
Jun 1 at 1:41
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The furthest back I've gotten so far isn't very far back at all. From a court transcript in 1877 or 1878:
Q: Place upon the blackboard the signs that you used in applications
for insurance.
A: For what?
Q: Certain stenographic signs?
A: Yes, sir; there was the ordinary tick mark.
Q: Go and make them please; show what meant yes and show what meant no.
A: V is yes, and X, no.
Q: These signs have been the subject of a great deal of criticism in the
courts of this State, haven't they?
A: Not that I know of.
Q: Is it not true that in Ohio a law has been passed forbidding the use of these signs?
A: I do not know.
Google Books also has some hits in a non-free document they date to "1746," but the wording and typography both lead me to believe that Google Books is just flat wrong about the date of this document.
13
Now I'm really curious why did Ohio ban checkmark.
– Tomáš Zato
May 31 at 10:39
10
@TomášZato: The context in the court transcript (of which I only read a very small part) strongly implies that the marks were banned because it is trivially easy to add two little tails onto a ✓ thus turning it into an ✗, which enables fraud. See also: youtu.be/hAHPOoVjRMA
– Quuxplusone
May 31 at 14:52
1
I don't know the actual date of the alleged 1746 document, but it's certainly no older than 1955. Google (not just Books) is notorious for having the wrong date on things.
– Laurel
Jun 1 at 1:41
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The furthest back I've gotten so far isn't very far back at all. From a court transcript in 1877 or 1878:
Q: Place upon the blackboard the signs that you used in applications
for insurance.
A: For what?
Q: Certain stenographic signs?
A: Yes, sir; there was the ordinary tick mark.
Q: Go and make them please; show what meant yes and show what meant no.
A: V is yes, and X, no.
Q: These signs have been the subject of a great deal of criticism in the
courts of this State, haven't they?
A: Not that I know of.
Q: Is it not true that in Ohio a law has been passed forbidding the use of these signs?
A: I do not know.
Google Books also has some hits in a non-free document they date to "1746," but the wording and typography both lead me to believe that Google Books is just flat wrong about the date of this document.
The furthest back I've gotten so far isn't very far back at all. From a court transcript in 1877 or 1878:
Q: Place upon the blackboard the signs that you used in applications
for insurance.
A: For what?
Q: Certain stenographic signs?
A: Yes, sir; there was the ordinary tick mark.
Q: Go and make them please; show what meant yes and show what meant no.
A: V is yes, and X, no.
Q: These signs have been the subject of a great deal of criticism in the
courts of this State, haven't they?
A: Not that I know of.
Q: Is it not true that in Ohio a law has been passed forbidding the use of these signs?
A: I do not know.
Google Books also has some hits in a non-free document they date to "1746," but the wording and typography both lead me to believe that Google Books is just flat wrong about the date of this document.
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Now I'm really curious why did Ohio ban checkmark.
– Tomáš Zato
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@TomášZato: The context in the court transcript (of which I only read a very small part) strongly implies that the marks were banned because it is trivially easy to add two little tails onto a ✓ thus turning it into an ✗, which enables fraud. See also: youtu.be/hAHPOoVjRMA
– Quuxplusone
May 31 at 14:52
1
I don't know the actual date of the alleged 1746 document, but it's certainly no older than 1955. Google (not just Books) is notorious for having the wrong date on things.
– Laurel
Jun 1 at 1:41
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Now I'm really curious why did Ohio ban checkmark.
– Tomáš Zato
May 31 at 10:39
10
@TomášZato: The context in the court transcript (of which I only read a very small part) strongly implies that the marks were banned because it is trivially easy to add two little tails onto a ✓ thus turning it into an ✗, which enables fraud. See also: youtu.be/hAHPOoVjRMA
– Quuxplusone
May 31 at 14:52
1
I don't know the actual date of the alleged 1746 document, but it's certainly no older than 1955. Google (not just Books) is notorious for having the wrong date on things.
– Laurel
Jun 1 at 1:41
13
13
Now I'm really curious why did Ohio ban checkmark.
– Tomáš Zato
May 31 at 10:39
Now I'm really curious why did Ohio ban checkmark.
– Tomáš Zato
May 31 at 10:39
10
10
@TomášZato: The context in the court transcript (of which I only read a very small part) strongly implies that the marks were banned because it is trivially easy to add two little tails onto a ✓ thus turning it into an ✗, which enables fraud. See also: youtu.be/hAHPOoVjRMA
– Quuxplusone
May 31 at 14:52
@TomášZato: The context in the court transcript (of which I only read a very small part) strongly implies that the marks were banned because it is trivially easy to add two little tails onto a ✓ thus turning it into an ✗, which enables fraud. See also: youtu.be/hAHPOoVjRMA
– Quuxplusone
May 31 at 14:52
1
1
I don't know the actual date of the alleged 1746 document, but it's certainly no older than 1955. Google (not just Books) is notorious for having the wrong date on things.
– Laurel
Jun 1 at 1:41
I don't know the actual date of the alleged 1746 document, but it's certainly no older than 1955. Google (not just Books) is notorious for having the wrong date on things.
– Laurel
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From the OED (1928)
Tick sb.3
...
3. A small dot or dash (often formed by two small strokes at an acute angle), made with a pen or pencil, to draw attention to something or to mark a name, figure, etc. as having been noted or
checked.
1844 Frazer's Mag. XXX 88/1
Neat pencil ticks indicated favourite passages.
Also
Tick v.1
...
3. trans. To mark (a name, an item in a list, etc.) with a tick; to mark off with a tick as noted, passed, or done with.
1861 Dickens Great Expectations xxxiv
I compared each with the bill and ticked it off.
The etymology of both usages is apparently (but not definitely) from the Dutch tik, pat, light touch or tick, and tikken, to pat or touch lightly.
I posit that the first small down stroke is just a stylized attempt to avoid the small blot which, as anyone who has used a fountain pen knows, frequently appears as pen touches paper.
Further, the linguistic relation to tick in other usages as the smallest distinct form, whether as an insect or the movement of a clock, in this case would be "the smallest distinct mark with which to unobtrusively mark up a written document with pen or pencil."
Linguistically a check mark is simply any mark with which one has checked items. Various possible check marks include "x-es" and "tick marks", as well as a host of other small marks used by proof readers, editors, accountants (auditing firms require a multi-page glossary of all the various check marks used for their audit trails!), etc.
"I posit that the first small down stroke is just a stylized attempt to avoid the small blot": Does that conjecture produce a conjectured lower bound for its appearance? Coincidentally, I was just reading how the ballpoint pen killed cursive — given enough time, will it kill the check mark too? (Millennials, man! Always killing industries!)
– Quuxplusone
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From the OED (1928)
Tick sb.3
...
3. A small dot or dash (often formed by two small strokes at an acute angle), made with a pen or pencil, to draw attention to something or to mark a name, figure, etc. as having been noted or
checked.
1844 Frazer's Mag. XXX 88/1
Neat pencil ticks indicated favourite passages.
Also
Tick v.1
...
3. trans. To mark (a name, an item in a list, etc.) with a tick; to mark off with a tick as noted, passed, or done with.
1861 Dickens Great Expectations xxxiv
I compared each with the bill and ticked it off.
The etymology of both usages is apparently (but not definitely) from the Dutch tik, pat, light touch or tick, and tikken, to pat or touch lightly.
I posit that the first small down stroke is just a stylized attempt to avoid the small blot which, as anyone who has used a fountain pen knows, frequently appears as pen touches paper.
Further, the linguistic relation to tick in other usages as the smallest distinct form, whether as an insect or the movement of a clock, in this case would be "the smallest distinct mark with which to unobtrusively mark up a written document with pen or pencil."
Linguistically a check mark is simply any mark with which one has checked items. Various possible check marks include "x-es" and "tick marks", as well as a host of other small marks used by proof readers, editors, accountants (auditing firms require a multi-page glossary of all the various check marks used for their audit trails!), etc.
"I posit that the first small down stroke is just a stylized attempt to avoid the small blot": Does that conjecture produce a conjectured lower bound for its appearance? Coincidentally, I was just reading how the ballpoint pen killed cursive — given enough time, will it kill the check mark too? (Millennials, man! Always killing industries!)
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From the OED (1928)
Tick sb.3
...
3. A small dot or dash (often formed by two small strokes at an acute angle), made with a pen or pencil, to draw attention to something or to mark a name, figure, etc. as having been noted or
checked.
1844 Frazer's Mag. XXX 88/1
Neat pencil ticks indicated favourite passages.
Also
Tick v.1
...
3. trans. To mark (a name, an item in a list, etc.) with a tick; to mark off with a tick as noted, passed, or done with.
1861 Dickens Great Expectations xxxiv
I compared each with the bill and ticked it off.
The etymology of both usages is apparently (but not definitely) from the Dutch tik, pat, light touch or tick, and tikken, to pat or touch lightly.
I posit that the first small down stroke is just a stylized attempt to avoid the small blot which, as anyone who has used a fountain pen knows, frequently appears as pen touches paper.
Further, the linguistic relation to tick in other usages as the smallest distinct form, whether as an insect or the movement of a clock, in this case would be "the smallest distinct mark with which to unobtrusively mark up a written document with pen or pencil."
Linguistically a check mark is simply any mark with which one has checked items. Various possible check marks include "x-es" and "tick marks", as well as a host of other small marks used by proof readers, editors, accountants (auditing firms require a multi-page glossary of all the various check marks used for their audit trails!), etc.
From the OED (1928)
Tick sb.3
...
3. A small dot or dash (often formed by two small strokes at an acute angle), made with a pen or pencil, to draw attention to something or to mark a name, figure, etc. as having been noted or
checked.
1844 Frazer's Mag. XXX 88/1
Neat pencil ticks indicated favourite passages.
Also
Tick v.1
...
3. trans. To mark (a name, an item in a list, etc.) with a tick; to mark off with a tick as noted, passed, or done with.
1861 Dickens Great Expectations xxxiv
I compared each with the bill and ticked it off.
The etymology of both usages is apparently (but not definitely) from the Dutch tik, pat, light touch or tick, and tikken, to pat or touch lightly.
I posit that the first small down stroke is just a stylized attempt to avoid the small blot which, as anyone who has used a fountain pen knows, frequently appears as pen touches paper.
Further, the linguistic relation to tick in other usages as the smallest distinct form, whether as an insect or the movement of a clock, in this case would be "the smallest distinct mark with which to unobtrusively mark up a written document with pen or pencil."
Linguistically a check mark is simply any mark with which one has checked items. Various possible check marks include "x-es" and "tick marks", as well as a host of other small marks used by proof readers, editors, accountants (auditing firms require a multi-page glossary of all the various check marks used for their audit trails!), etc.
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"I posit that the first small down stroke is just a stylized attempt to avoid the small blot": Does that conjecture produce a conjectured lower bound for its appearance? Coincidentally, I was just reading how the ballpoint pen killed cursive — given enough time, will it kill the check mark too? (Millennials, man! Always killing industries!)
– Quuxplusone
May 31 at 16:16
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"I posit that the first small down stroke is just a stylized attempt to avoid the small blot": Does that conjecture produce a conjectured lower bound for its appearance? Coincidentally, I was just reading how the ballpoint pen killed cursive — given enough time, will it kill the check mark too? (Millennials, man! Always killing industries!)
– Quuxplusone
May 31 at 16:16
"I posit that the first small down stroke is just a stylized attempt to avoid the small blot": Does that conjecture produce a conjectured lower bound for its appearance? Coincidentally, I was just reading how the ballpoint pen killed cursive — given enough time, will it kill the check mark too? (Millennials, man! Always killing industries!)
– Quuxplusone
May 31 at 16:16
"I posit that the first small down stroke is just a stylized attempt to avoid the small blot": Does that conjecture produce a conjectured lower bound for its appearance? Coincidentally, I was just reading how the ballpoint pen killed cursive — given enough time, will it kill the check mark too? (Millennials, man! Always killing industries!)
– Quuxplusone
May 31 at 16:16
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The origin story laid out in the wikipedia page seems to be a reinterpretation of an older symbol and its meaning at best, and pure invention at worse.
Critical Notes on Graeco-Roman Ostraca, Herbert C. Youtie (1945) makes a passing mention, in footnote 96, of the use of checkmarks in what seems to be 3rd or 4th century papyri written in Greek:
Horizontal lines are drawn also under Col. 1.10 and Col. 2.1, 8, 13, where no headings are used. They extend the full width of the column, as if to mark offsections of the text. In this they differ from horizontal check marks, which rarely run more than a few centimeters into the column (P. Mich. 4, plates 1–4). An oblique check mark precedes Col. 1.6. On the use of the oblique line in this way see P. Col. 2, p. 39.
If I am not mistaking he's referring to papyri from this collection (which seems to have several tomes, and of which Youtie is a co-author). You can see the plates at the end of the book.
The same author discusses the meaning in Parerga Ostracologica (1942), pp. 66–67:
In the left margin, toward the edge of the ostracon, the photograph reveals a large and bold cross, much like x, seemingly made by a second hand. This is the marginal decussis, which has become familiar as a check-mark from P. Col. II.1 Recto 6 (cf. p. 165); P. bibl.univ. Giss. vi.49 Verso. I. 8; P. Tebt. i.103, where it is followed by a heavy dot, which is also known as an accounting device (P. Tebt. iii.845, introd.); P. Tebt. iii.834, introd. In the tax rolls from Karanis (e.g., P. Mich. iv.224.507, 818, 824) it is used to mark [greek word]. In literary manuscripts it may mark an omission repaired in the margin or a passage for which a marginal scholion has been provided. In the Thucydides text in P. Oxy. xiii.1620, the decussis as well as other signs refer to variant readings entered in the upper margin.
Which, to me, reads like it means "checked/done/verified".
The symbol itself seems to predate this. In Ancient Egyptian Mathematics, Clara Silvia Roero (1994) (p 53–54 in this pdf preview) notes the use of check marks by ancient Egyptian scribes when doing multiplications and divisions (sorry for the poor formatting, the pdf preview is missing crucial formatting and possibly symbols):
To multiply 12 by 7, the scribe proceeded thus: 1 7 2 14 4 28 8 56
Totals 12 84 The first column contains the powers of 2 and the second
one a factor of multiplication successively doubled. The scribe placed
a check mark along side the numbers in the first column that totalled
12, i.e. 4 + 8; the sum of the corresponding numbers in the second
column, i.e. 28 + 56, then produced the result. This algorithm for
multiplication was based on the arithmetical property that any integer
can be expressed uniquely as the sum of certain terms of the
geometrical progression 2 °, 2 1 , 2 2 , ••• , 2 k, . . . . The
technique for division was the same as that for multiplication. For
these operations the ancient Egyptians sometimes used not only 2 but
other multipliers too, such as 10. For example, in the Rhind Papyrus
(problem 36 69) 1120 + 80 is calculated, a division with an exact
quotient: 80 10 800/ 2 160 4 320/ Totals 14 1120 The scribe set out to
obtain the dividend 1120 in the second column, so he multiplied the
divisor 80 by 10 and then successively doubled it until a number was
reached which, when added to 800, gave 1120. In this case the check
mark was placed alongside the numbers in the second column that
totalled 1120; the required quotient was then the sum of the
corresponding numbers in the first column. This technique is simple
enough when the two integers are divisible; when the quotient was not
a whole number the scribe used fractions. This example is taken from
the Rhind Papyrus (problem 24)
That too, to me at least, kind of reads like it means "checked/done/verified".
The Rhind Mathematical Papyrus dates to around 1550 BC, which makes the unsourced origin story suggested in Wikipedia seem dubious.
Discussing the other end of the fertile crescent, Life at the bottom of Babylonian society: Servile laborers at Nippur in the 14TH and 13TH centuries B.C. (2009), by Jonathan Stuart Tenney, discusses the use of checkmarks in Babylonia around the same period. I failed to access an online pdf version. Google Scholar offers this helpful preview snippet that leaves no doubt that, there too, it meant "checked/done/verified":
All allocations are intended as rations (AE.BA); and, if an allocation was disbursed, a check mark was placed to the left of the recipient's name.
(However, Ilmari Karonen in the comments raises that they were literally just marks, so while I leave this example so his comments are in context, disregard it.)
Put together, I've no idea of the symbol's origin, but it seems to me that the symbol, and the meaning it carries in English, predates Graeco-Roman times.
Ancient Romans used an abacus to perform arithmetic operations. Medieval and Renaissance attempts to reconstruct so-called Roman arithmetic are fanciful concoctions of the mind. The notion that Romans converted their base 5/10 system to binary notation (that is what your *geometrical progression is) to perform arithmetic, then converting back to Roman Numerals, is simply absurd.
– Pieter Geerkens
May 31 at 4:02
@PieterGeerkens: I've no idea what you're referring to. I do not mention Romans at all in my answer, except to suggest that the wiki claim that the Roman origin of the check mark is a V as in Veritas is dubious..
– Denis de Bernardy
May 31 at 5:21
4
The Babylonian "check marks" mentioned by Tenney would surely have been nothing like the modern ✓ symbol, except possibly in their purpose. In fact, I managed to access the book via my local university library, and found a better description on page 10: "On account tablets small indentations were sometimes made with a stylus, usually placed at the left of a worker’s name, presumably to indicate whether the listed ration has been issued. We will call these check marks." (Also, you — or Google — misspelled ŠE.BA = literally "grain ration".)
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 11:47
2
Ps. I managed to find pictures of some of the Babylonian tablets mentioned by Tenney in the footnotes, such as tablets BE 15 160, 188 and 190. The "check marks", AFAICT, are the holes poked into the clay (in the latter two tablets through a cuneiform sign, partly defacing it) that appear as vertical columns of dark pits in the photos, and as hollow ovals in the line art.
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 12:44
1
BTW, it's mildly interesting to note that those marks must have been made after the clay tablet was written — since they sometimes deface pre-existing signs, and no sane scribe would spend time writing a sign just to immediately erase it, and repeat that several times — but not too long after, or the clay would've dried and hardened. One might guess that those lists were written (perhaps copied from another tablet) shortly before the rations were dispensed, and the names then checked off one by one while the clay was still soft. In some ways, writing on paper sure is a lot more convenient...
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 13:00
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The origin story laid out in the wikipedia page seems to be a reinterpretation of an older symbol and its meaning at best, and pure invention at worse.
Critical Notes on Graeco-Roman Ostraca, Herbert C. Youtie (1945) makes a passing mention, in footnote 96, of the use of checkmarks in what seems to be 3rd or 4th century papyri written in Greek:
Horizontal lines are drawn also under Col. 1.10 and Col. 2.1, 8, 13, where no headings are used. They extend the full width of the column, as if to mark offsections of the text. In this they differ from horizontal check marks, which rarely run more than a few centimeters into the column (P. Mich. 4, plates 1–4). An oblique check mark precedes Col. 1.6. On the use of the oblique line in this way see P. Col. 2, p. 39.
If I am not mistaking he's referring to papyri from this collection (which seems to have several tomes, and of which Youtie is a co-author). You can see the plates at the end of the book.
The same author discusses the meaning in Parerga Ostracologica (1942), pp. 66–67:
In the left margin, toward the edge of the ostracon, the photograph reveals a large and bold cross, much like x, seemingly made by a second hand. This is the marginal decussis, which has become familiar as a check-mark from P. Col. II.1 Recto 6 (cf. p. 165); P. bibl.univ. Giss. vi.49 Verso. I. 8; P. Tebt. i.103, where it is followed by a heavy dot, which is also known as an accounting device (P. Tebt. iii.845, introd.); P. Tebt. iii.834, introd. In the tax rolls from Karanis (e.g., P. Mich. iv.224.507, 818, 824) it is used to mark [greek word]. In literary manuscripts it may mark an omission repaired in the margin or a passage for which a marginal scholion has been provided. In the Thucydides text in P. Oxy. xiii.1620, the decussis as well as other signs refer to variant readings entered in the upper margin.
Which, to me, reads like it means "checked/done/verified".
The symbol itself seems to predate this. In Ancient Egyptian Mathematics, Clara Silvia Roero (1994) (p 53–54 in this pdf preview) notes the use of check marks by ancient Egyptian scribes when doing multiplications and divisions (sorry for the poor formatting, the pdf preview is missing crucial formatting and possibly symbols):
To multiply 12 by 7, the scribe proceeded thus: 1 7 2 14 4 28 8 56
Totals 12 84 The first column contains the powers of 2 and the second
one a factor of multiplication successively doubled. The scribe placed
a check mark along side the numbers in the first column that totalled
12, i.e. 4 + 8; the sum of the corresponding numbers in the second
column, i.e. 28 + 56, then produced the result. This algorithm for
multiplication was based on the arithmetical property that any integer
can be expressed uniquely as the sum of certain terms of the
geometrical progression 2 °, 2 1 , 2 2 , ••• , 2 k, . . . . The
technique for division was the same as that for multiplication. For
these operations the ancient Egyptians sometimes used not only 2 but
other multipliers too, such as 10. For example, in the Rhind Papyrus
(problem 36 69) 1120 + 80 is calculated, a division with an exact
quotient: 80 10 800/ 2 160 4 320/ Totals 14 1120 The scribe set out to
obtain the dividend 1120 in the second column, so he multiplied the
divisor 80 by 10 and then successively doubled it until a number was
reached which, when added to 800, gave 1120. In this case the check
mark was placed alongside the numbers in the second column that
totalled 1120; the required quotient was then the sum of the
corresponding numbers in the first column. This technique is simple
enough when the two integers are divisible; when the quotient was not
a whole number the scribe used fractions. This example is taken from
the Rhind Papyrus (problem 24)
That too, to me at least, kind of reads like it means "checked/done/verified".
The Rhind Mathematical Papyrus dates to around 1550 BC, which makes the unsourced origin story suggested in Wikipedia seem dubious.
Discussing the other end of the fertile crescent, Life at the bottom of Babylonian society: Servile laborers at Nippur in the 14TH and 13TH centuries B.C. (2009), by Jonathan Stuart Tenney, discusses the use of checkmarks in Babylonia around the same period. I failed to access an online pdf version. Google Scholar offers this helpful preview snippet that leaves no doubt that, there too, it meant "checked/done/verified":
All allocations are intended as rations (AE.BA); and, if an allocation was disbursed, a check mark was placed to the left of the recipient's name.
(However, Ilmari Karonen in the comments raises that they were literally just marks, so while I leave this example so his comments are in context, disregard it.)
Put together, I've no idea of the symbol's origin, but it seems to me that the symbol, and the meaning it carries in English, predates Graeco-Roman times.
Ancient Romans used an abacus to perform arithmetic operations. Medieval and Renaissance attempts to reconstruct so-called Roman arithmetic are fanciful concoctions of the mind. The notion that Romans converted their base 5/10 system to binary notation (that is what your *geometrical progression is) to perform arithmetic, then converting back to Roman Numerals, is simply absurd.
– Pieter Geerkens
May 31 at 4:02
@PieterGeerkens: I've no idea what you're referring to. I do not mention Romans at all in my answer, except to suggest that the wiki claim that the Roman origin of the check mark is a V as in Veritas is dubious..
– Denis de Bernardy
May 31 at 5:21
4
The Babylonian "check marks" mentioned by Tenney would surely have been nothing like the modern ✓ symbol, except possibly in their purpose. In fact, I managed to access the book via my local university library, and found a better description on page 10: "On account tablets small indentations were sometimes made with a stylus, usually placed at the left of a worker’s name, presumably to indicate whether the listed ration has been issued. We will call these check marks." (Also, you — or Google — misspelled ŠE.BA = literally "grain ration".)
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 11:47
2
Ps. I managed to find pictures of some of the Babylonian tablets mentioned by Tenney in the footnotes, such as tablets BE 15 160, 188 and 190. The "check marks", AFAICT, are the holes poked into the clay (in the latter two tablets through a cuneiform sign, partly defacing it) that appear as vertical columns of dark pits in the photos, and as hollow ovals in the line art.
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 12:44
1
BTW, it's mildly interesting to note that those marks must have been made after the clay tablet was written — since they sometimes deface pre-existing signs, and no sane scribe would spend time writing a sign just to immediately erase it, and repeat that several times — but not too long after, or the clay would've dried and hardened. One might guess that those lists were written (perhaps copied from another tablet) shortly before the rations were dispensed, and the names then checked off one by one while the clay was still soft. In some ways, writing on paper sure is a lot more convenient...
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 13:00
|
show 1 more comment
The origin story laid out in the wikipedia page seems to be a reinterpretation of an older symbol and its meaning at best, and pure invention at worse.
Critical Notes on Graeco-Roman Ostraca, Herbert C. Youtie (1945) makes a passing mention, in footnote 96, of the use of checkmarks in what seems to be 3rd or 4th century papyri written in Greek:
Horizontal lines are drawn also under Col. 1.10 and Col. 2.1, 8, 13, where no headings are used. They extend the full width of the column, as if to mark offsections of the text. In this they differ from horizontal check marks, which rarely run more than a few centimeters into the column (P. Mich. 4, plates 1–4). An oblique check mark precedes Col. 1.6. On the use of the oblique line in this way see P. Col. 2, p. 39.
If I am not mistaking he's referring to papyri from this collection (which seems to have several tomes, and of which Youtie is a co-author). You can see the plates at the end of the book.
The same author discusses the meaning in Parerga Ostracologica (1942), pp. 66–67:
In the left margin, toward the edge of the ostracon, the photograph reveals a large and bold cross, much like x, seemingly made by a second hand. This is the marginal decussis, which has become familiar as a check-mark from P. Col. II.1 Recto 6 (cf. p. 165); P. bibl.univ. Giss. vi.49 Verso. I. 8; P. Tebt. i.103, where it is followed by a heavy dot, which is also known as an accounting device (P. Tebt. iii.845, introd.); P. Tebt. iii.834, introd. In the tax rolls from Karanis (e.g., P. Mich. iv.224.507, 818, 824) it is used to mark [greek word]. In literary manuscripts it may mark an omission repaired in the margin or a passage for which a marginal scholion has been provided. In the Thucydides text in P. Oxy. xiii.1620, the decussis as well as other signs refer to variant readings entered in the upper margin.
Which, to me, reads like it means "checked/done/verified".
The symbol itself seems to predate this. In Ancient Egyptian Mathematics, Clara Silvia Roero (1994) (p 53–54 in this pdf preview) notes the use of check marks by ancient Egyptian scribes when doing multiplications and divisions (sorry for the poor formatting, the pdf preview is missing crucial formatting and possibly symbols):
To multiply 12 by 7, the scribe proceeded thus: 1 7 2 14 4 28 8 56
Totals 12 84 The first column contains the powers of 2 and the second
one a factor of multiplication successively doubled. The scribe placed
a check mark along side the numbers in the first column that totalled
12, i.e. 4 + 8; the sum of the corresponding numbers in the second
column, i.e. 28 + 56, then produced the result. This algorithm for
multiplication was based on the arithmetical property that any integer
can be expressed uniquely as the sum of certain terms of the
geometrical progression 2 °, 2 1 , 2 2 , ••• , 2 k, . . . . The
technique for division was the same as that for multiplication. For
these operations the ancient Egyptians sometimes used not only 2 but
other multipliers too, such as 10. For example, in the Rhind Papyrus
(problem 36 69) 1120 + 80 is calculated, a division with an exact
quotient: 80 10 800/ 2 160 4 320/ Totals 14 1120 The scribe set out to
obtain the dividend 1120 in the second column, so he multiplied the
divisor 80 by 10 and then successively doubled it until a number was
reached which, when added to 800, gave 1120. In this case the check
mark was placed alongside the numbers in the second column that
totalled 1120; the required quotient was then the sum of the
corresponding numbers in the first column. This technique is simple
enough when the two integers are divisible; when the quotient was not
a whole number the scribe used fractions. This example is taken from
the Rhind Papyrus (problem 24)
That too, to me at least, kind of reads like it means "checked/done/verified".
The Rhind Mathematical Papyrus dates to around 1550 BC, which makes the unsourced origin story suggested in Wikipedia seem dubious.
Discussing the other end of the fertile crescent, Life at the bottom of Babylonian society: Servile laborers at Nippur in the 14TH and 13TH centuries B.C. (2009), by Jonathan Stuart Tenney, discusses the use of checkmarks in Babylonia around the same period. I failed to access an online pdf version. Google Scholar offers this helpful preview snippet that leaves no doubt that, there too, it meant "checked/done/verified":
All allocations are intended as rations (AE.BA); and, if an allocation was disbursed, a check mark was placed to the left of the recipient's name.
(However, Ilmari Karonen in the comments raises that they were literally just marks, so while I leave this example so his comments are in context, disregard it.)
Put together, I've no idea of the symbol's origin, but it seems to me that the symbol, and the meaning it carries in English, predates Graeco-Roman times.
The origin story laid out in the wikipedia page seems to be a reinterpretation of an older symbol and its meaning at best, and pure invention at worse.
Critical Notes on Graeco-Roman Ostraca, Herbert C. Youtie (1945) makes a passing mention, in footnote 96, of the use of checkmarks in what seems to be 3rd or 4th century papyri written in Greek:
Horizontal lines are drawn also under Col. 1.10 and Col. 2.1, 8, 13, where no headings are used. They extend the full width of the column, as if to mark offsections of the text. In this they differ from horizontal check marks, which rarely run more than a few centimeters into the column (P. Mich. 4, plates 1–4). An oblique check mark precedes Col. 1.6. On the use of the oblique line in this way see P. Col. 2, p. 39.
If I am not mistaking he's referring to papyri from this collection (which seems to have several tomes, and of which Youtie is a co-author). You can see the plates at the end of the book.
The same author discusses the meaning in Parerga Ostracologica (1942), pp. 66–67:
In the left margin, toward the edge of the ostracon, the photograph reveals a large and bold cross, much like x, seemingly made by a second hand. This is the marginal decussis, which has become familiar as a check-mark from P. Col. II.1 Recto 6 (cf. p. 165); P. bibl.univ. Giss. vi.49 Verso. I. 8; P. Tebt. i.103, where it is followed by a heavy dot, which is also known as an accounting device (P. Tebt. iii.845, introd.); P. Tebt. iii.834, introd. In the tax rolls from Karanis (e.g., P. Mich. iv.224.507, 818, 824) it is used to mark [greek word]. In literary manuscripts it may mark an omission repaired in the margin or a passage for which a marginal scholion has been provided. In the Thucydides text in P. Oxy. xiii.1620, the decussis as well as other signs refer to variant readings entered in the upper margin.
Which, to me, reads like it means "checked/done/verified".
The symbol itself seems to predate this. In Ancient Egyptian Mathematics, Clara Silvia Roero (1994) (p 53–54 in this pdf preview) notes the use of check marks by ancient Egyptian scribes when doing multiplications and divisions (sorry for the poor formatting, the pdf preview is missing crucial formatting and possibly symbols):
To multiply 12 by 7, the scribe proceeded thus: 1 7 2 14 4 28 8 56
Totals 12 84 The first column contains the powers of 2 and the second
one a factor of multiplication successively doubled. The scribe placed
a check mark along side the numbers in the first column that totalled
12, i.e. 4 + 8; the sum of the corresponding numbers in the second
column, i.e. 28 + 56, then produced the result. This algorithm for
multiplication was based on the arithmetical property that any integer
can be expressed uniquely as the sum of certain terms of the
geometrical progression 2 °, 2 1 , 2 2 , ••• , 2 k, . . . . The
technique for division was the same as that for multiplication. For
these operations the ancient Egyptians sometimes used not only 2 but
other multipliers too, such as 10. For example, in the Rhind Papyrus
(problem 36 69) 1120 + 80 is calculated, a division with an exact
quotient: 80 10 800/ 2 160 4 320/ Totals 14 1120 The scribe set out to
obtain the dividend 1120 in the second column, so he multiplied the
divisor 80 by 10 and then successively doubled it until a number was
reached which, when added to 800, gave 1120. In this case the check
mark was placed alongside the numbers in the second column that
totalled 1120; the required quotient was then the sum of the
corresponding numbers in the first column. This technique is simple
enough when the two integers are divisible; when the quotient was not
a whole number the scribe used fractions. This example is taken from
the Rhind Papyrus (problem 24)
That too, to me at least, kind of reads like it means "checked/done/verified".
The Rhind Mathematical Papyrus dates to around 1550 BC, which makes the unsourced origin story suggested in Wikipedia seem dubious.
Discussing the other end of the fertile crescent, Life at the bottom of Babylonian society: Servile laborers at Nippur in the 14TH and 13TH centuries B.C. (2009), by Jonathan Stuart Tenney, discusses the use of checkmarks in Babylonia around the same period. I failed to access an online pdf version. Google Scholar offers this helpful preview snippet that leaves no doubt that, there too, it meant "checked/done/verified":
All allocations are intended as rations (AE.BA); and, if an allocation was disbursed, a check mark was placed to the left of the recipient's name.
(However, Ilmari Karonen in the comments raises that they were literally just marks, so while I leave this example so his comments are in context, disregard it.)
Put together, I've no idea of the symbol's origin, but it seems to me that the symbol, and the meaning it carries in English, predates Graeco-Roman times.
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Ancient Romans used an abacus to perform arithmetic operations. Medieval and Renaissance attempts to reconstruct so-called Roman arithmetic are fanciful concoctions of the mind. The notion that Romans converted their base 5/10 system to binary notation (that is what your *geometrical progression is) to perform arithmetic, then converting back to Roman Numerals, is simply absurd.
– Pieter Geerkens
May 31 at 4:02
@PieterGeerkens: I've no idea what you're referring to. I do not mention Romans at all in my answer, except to suggest that the wiki claim that the Roman origin of the check mark is a V as in Veritas is dubious..
– Denis de Bernardy
May 31 at 5:21
4
The Babylonian "check marks" mentioned by Tenney would surely have been nothing like the modern ✓ symbol, except possibly in their purpose. In fact, I managed to access the book via my local university library, and found a better description on page 10: "On account tablets small indentations were sometimes made with a stylus, usually placed at the left of a worker’s name, presumably to indicate whether the listed ration has been issued. We will call these check marks." (Also, you — or Google — misspelled ŠE.BA = literally "grain ration".)
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 11:47
2
Ps. I managed to find pictures of some of the Babylonian tablets mentioned by Tenney in the footnotes, such as tablets BE 15 160, 188 and 190. The "check marks", AFAICT, are the holes poked into the clay (in the latter two tablets through a cuneiform sign, partly defacing it) that appear as vertical columns of dark pits in the photos, and as hollow ovals in the line art.
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 12:44
1
BTW, it's mildly interesting to note that those marks must have been made after the clay tablet was written — since they sometimes deface pre-existing signs, and no sane scribe would spend time writing a sign just to immediately erase it, and repeat that several times — but not too long after, or the clay would've dried and hardened. One might guess that those lists were written (perhaps copied from another tablet) shortly before the rations were dispensed, and the names then checked off one by one while the clay was still soft. In some ways, writing on paper sure is a lot more convenient...
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 13:00
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Ancient Romans used an abacus to perform arithmetic operations. Medieval and Renaissance attempts to reconstruct so-called Roman arithmetic are fanciful concoctions of the mind. The notion that Romans converted their base 5/10 system to binary notation (that is what your *geometrical progression is) to perform arithmetic, then converting back to Roman Numerals, is simply absurd.
– Pieter Geerkens
May 31 at 4:02
@PieterGeerkens: I've no idea what you're referring to. I do not mention Romans at all in my answer, except to suggest that the wiki claim that the Roman origin of the check mark is a V as in Veritas is dubious..
– Denis de Bernardy
May 31 at 5:21
4
The Babylonian "check marks" mentioned by Tenney would surely have been nothing like the modern ✓ symbol, except possibly in their purpose. In fact, I managed to access the book via my local university library, and found a better description on page 10: "On account tablets small indentations were sometimes made with a stylus, usually placed at the left of a worker’s name, presumably to indicate whether the listed ration has been issued. We will call these check marks." (Also, you — or Google — misspelled ŠE.BA = literally "grain ration".)
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 11:47
2
Ps. I managed to find pictures of some of the Babylonian tablets mentioned by Tenney in the footnotes, such as tablets BE 15 160, 188 and 190. The "check marks", AFAICT, are the holes poked into the clay (in the latter two tablets through a cuneiform sign, partly defacing it) that appear as vertical columns of dark pits in the photos, and as hollow ovals in the line art.
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 12:44
1
BTW, it's mildly interesting to note that those marks must have been made after the clay tablet was written — since they sometimes deface pre-existing signs, and no sane scribe would spend time writing a sign just to immediately erase it, and repeat that several times — but not too long after, or the clay would've dried and hardened. One might guess that those lists were written (perhaps copied from another tablet) shortly before the rations were dispensed, and the names then checked off one by one while the clay was still soft. In some ways, writing on paper sure is a lot more convenient...
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 13:00
Ancient Romans used an abacus to perform arithmetic operations. Medieval and Renaissance attempts to reconstruct so-called Roman arithmetic are fanciful concoctions of the mind. The notion that Romans converted their base 5/10 system to binary notation (that is what your *geometrical progression is) to perform arithmetic, then converting back to Roman Numerals, is simply absurd.
– Pieter Geerkens
May 31 at 4:02
Ancient Romans used an abacus to perform arithmetic operations. Medieval and Renaissance attempts to reconstruct so-called Roman arithmetic are fanciful concoctions of the mind. The notion that Romans converted their base 5/10 system to binary notation (that is what your *geometrical progression is) to perform arithmetic, then converting back to Roman Numerals, is simply absurd.
– Pieter Geerkens
May 31 at 4:02
@PieterGeerkens: I've no idea what you're referring to. I do not mention Romans at all in my answer, except to suggest that the wiki claim that the Roman origin of the check mark is a V as in Veritas is dubious..
– Denis de Bernardy
May 31 at 5:21
@PieterGeerkens: I've no idea what you're referring to. I do not mention Romans at all in my answer, except to suggest that the wiki claim that the Roman origin of the check mark is a V as in Veritas is dubious..
– Denis de Bernardy
May 31 at 5:21
4
4
The Babylonian "check marks" mentioned by Tenney would surely have been nothing like the modern ✓ symbol, except possibly in their purpose. In fact, I managed to access the book via my local university library, and found a better description on page 10: "On account tablets small indentations were sometimes made with a stylus, usually placed at the left of a worker’s name, presumably to indicate whether the listed ration has been issued. We will call these check marks." (Also, you — or Google — misspelled ŠE.BA = literally "grain ration".)
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 11:47
The Babylonian "check marks" mentioned by Tenney would surely have been nothing like the modern ✓ symbol, except possibly in their purpose. In fact, I managed to access the book via my local university library, and found a better description on page 10: "On account tablets small indentations were sometimes made with a stylus, usually placed at the left of a worker’s name, presumably to indicate whether the listed ration has been issued. We will call these check marks." (Also, you — or Google — misspelled ŠE.BA = literally "grain ration".)
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 11:47
2
2
Ps. I managed to find pictures of some of the Babylonian tablets mentioned by Tenney in the footnotes, such as tablets BE 15 160, 188 and 190. The "check marks", AFAICT, are the holes poked into the clay (in the latter two tablets through a cuneiform sign, partly defacing it) that appear as vertical columns of dark pits in the photos, and as hollow ovals in the line art.
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 12:44
Ps. I managed to find pictures of some of the Babylonian tablets mentioned by Tenney in the footnotes, such as tablets BE 15 160, 188 and 190. The "check marks", AFAICT, are the holes poked into the clay (in the latter two tablets through a cuneiform sign, partly defacing it) that appear as vertical columns of dark pits in the photos, and as hollow ovals in the line art.
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 12:44
1
1
BTW, it's mildly interesting to note that those marks must have been made after the clay tablet was written — since they sometimes deface pre-existing signs, and no sane scribe would spend time writing a sign just to immediately erase it, and repeat that several times — but not too long after, or the clay would've dried and hardened. One might guess that those lists were written (perhaps copied from another tablet) shortly before the rations were dispensed, and the names then checked off one by one while the clay was still soft. In some ways, writing on paper sure is a lot more convenient...
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 13:00
BTW, it's mildly interesting to note that those marks must have been made after the clay tablet was written — since they sometimes deface pre-existing signs, and no sane scribe would spend time writing a sign just to immediately erase it, and repeat that several times — but not too long after, or the clay would've dried and hardened. One might guess that those lists were written (perhaps copied from another tablet) shortly before the rations were dispensed, and the names then checked off one by one while the clay was still soft. In some ways, writing on paper sure is a lot more convenient...
– Ilmari Karonen
May 31 at 13:00
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