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A pattern within the differences of pythagorean triples?
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Looking at some of the more common pythagorean triples, I noticed a trend that there are usually two numbers which differ by only one or two, with more much smaller or larger number in comparison. For example:
$$5,12,13$$
$$8,15,17$$
$$7,24,25$$
$$20,21,29$$
$$12,35,37$$
$$9,40,41$$
and so on...
I was wondering whether there is some deeper algebraic or geometric reason for this, or whether it is just a coincidence with the numbers I have chosen?
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Looking at some of the more common pythagorean triples, I noticed a trend that there are usually two numbers which differ by only one or two, with more much smaller or larger number in comparison. For example:
$$5,12,13$$
$$8,15,17$$
$$7,24,25$$
$$20,21,29$$
$$12,35,37$$
$$9,40,41$$
and so on...
I was wondering whether there is some deeper algebraic or geometric reason for this, or whether it is just a coincidence with the numbers I have chosen?
elementary-number-theory pythagorean-triples
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Looking at some of the more common pythagorean triples, I noticed a trend that there are usually two numbers which differ by only one or two, with more much smaller or larger number in comparison. For example:
$$5,12,13$$
$$8,15,17$$
$$7,24,25$$
$$20,21,29$$
$$12,35,37$$
$$9,40,41$$
and so on...
I was wondering whether there is some deeper algebraic or geometric reason for this, or whether it is just a coincidence with the numbers I have chosen?
elementary-number-theory pythagorean-triples
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Looking at some of the more common pythagorean triples, I noticed a trend that there are usually two numbers which differ by only one or two, with more much smaller or larger number in comparison. For example:
$$5,12,13$$
$$8,15,17$$
$$7,24,25$$
$$20,21,29$$
$$12,35,37$$
$$9,40,41$$
and so on...
I was wondering whether there is some deeper algebraic or geometric reason for this, or whether it is just a coincidence with the numbers I have chosen?
elementary-number-theory pythagorean-triples
elementary-number-theory pythagorean-triples
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This comes from the fact that, when $n$ is odd$$left(n,fracn^2-12,fracn^2+12right)$$is a pythagorean triple and, when $n$ is even,$$left(n,left(frac n2right)^2-1,left(frac n2right)^2+1right)$$is a pythagorean triple too. In the first case, the second and the third numbers differ by $1$ and, in the second case, they differ by $2$.
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I just verified these results myself, but I was wondering where these come from. Is this just a common fact, if so do you have a link to its proof?
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You just use the fact thatbeginalignn^2+left(fracn^2-12right)^2&=n^2+fracn^4-2n^2+14\&=fracn^4+2n^2+14\&=left(fracn^2+12right)^2.endalignThe other one is similar. These are very old formulas, which were probably already know by the phytaghoreans.
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A primitive Pythagorean triple is of the form $$m^2-n^2, 2mn, m^2+n^2$$ where $mgt n$, $m,n$ have no common prime factor and one of $m,n$ is even.
If $n=1$ you automatically have two numbers which differ by $2$. If $m=n+r$ then you have $2n^2+2nr$ and $2n^2+2nr+r^2$ so if $m-n=1$ you automatically have sides which differ by $1$.
Now look at the first few possible pairs for $m,n$
We have $2,1$ giving $3,4,5$
Then $3,2$ giving $5,12,13$
And $4,1$ with $15, 8, 17$
And $4,3$ with $7, 24, 25$
And $5,2$ with $21, 20, 29$
etc
This last is not one of the ones I caught, but the closeness here is essentially because the numbers $m$ and $n$ are small.
As numbers get larger, cases like $10,7$ giving $51, 140, 149$;
or $10,3$ leading to $91, 60, 109$ become more typical.
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All pythagorean triples are given by
$$a = m^2 - n^2 , , b = 2mn , , c = m^2 + n^2 $$
for any pair $m>n>0$.
In order to have a small $a$ we can set $m=n+k$ with $k$ small and therefore
- $b=2n^2+2nk$
- $c=2n^2+2nk+k^2$
therefore
$$b-c=k^2$$
which tends to be relatively "small".
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If you want for example that $$c=b+1$$
you choose $a$ such that
$$a^2=2b+1=(2k+1)^2$$
or
$$b=2k^2+2k$$
for $k=3$ you get
$$b=24 , a=7 text and c=25$$
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The question is about small difference, not large ones.
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@JoséCarlosSantos I understood he said that there is always a difference equal to one or two.
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The OP wrote “I noticed a trend that there are usually two numbers which differ by only one or two”. Where did you see a “always” here?
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The well-known Euclid's formula is $A=m^2-n^2quad B=2mnquad C=m^2+n^2$ and generates trivial triples, all primitives, doubles and square multiples of primitives but in a seemingly random pattern. A variation replaces $(m,n)$ with $(2n-1+k,k)$, produces no trivial triples, and generates only the subset where GCD(A,B,C) is an odd square:
$$A=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)kquad B=2(2n-1)k+2k^2quad C=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k+2k^2$$
This formula generates a distinct pattern of sets that can be seen in the sample below where the increment between values of $A$ in each set is $2(2n-1)$ and $C-B=(2n-1)^2$.
$$beginarrayc
n & Triple_1 & Triple_2 & Triple_3 & Triple_4 \ hline
Set_1 & 3,4,5 & 5,12,13& 7,24,25& 9,40,41\ hline
Set_2 & 15,8,17 & 21,20,29 &27,36,45 &33,56,65\ hline
Set_3 & 35,12,37 & 45,28,53 &55,48,73 &65,72,97 \ hline
Set_4 &63,16,65 &77,36,85 &91,60,109 &105,88,137\ hline
endarray$$
Setting $n=1$ reduces formula to $$A=2k+1=quad B=2k(k+1)quad C=2k(k+1)+1$$ and generates only $Set_1$ where $C-B=1$.
Setting $k-1$ reduces the formula to $$A=4n^2-1quad B=4nquad C=4n^2+1$$ and generates only the first member of each set where $C-A=2$.
Another unrelated formula generates only the rare triples where $B-A=1$ such as $(3,4,5), (20,21,29), (119,120,169), (696,697,985)$. That formula begins with $A_1,B_1,C_1=3,4,5$ and then builds each triple based on its predecessor: $$A_n+1=3A_n+2C_n+1quad B_n+1=3A_n+2C_n+2quad C_n+1=4A_n+3C_n+2$$
There are an infinite number of these but they get scarcer with altitude; Excel can only generate 19 or them before resulting in trailing zeros. The $19^th$ is $(211929657785303,211929657785304,299713796309065)$.
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This comes from the fact that, when $n$ is odd$$left(n,fracn^2-12,fracn^2+12right)$$is a pythagorean triple and, when $n$ is even,$$left(n,left(frac n2right)^2-1,left(frac n2right)^2+1right)$$is a pythagorean triple too. In the first case, the second and the third numbers differ by $1$ and, in the second case, they differ by $2$.
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I just verified these results myself, but I was wondering where these come from. Is this just a common fact, if so do you have a link to its proof?
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– Jamminermit
Oct 2 at 18:57
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You just use the fact thatbeginalignn^2+left(fracn^2-12right)^2&=n^2+fracn^4-2n^2+14\&=fracn^4+2n^2+14\&=left(fracn^2+12right)^2.endalignThe other one is similar. These are very old formulas, which were probably already know by the phytaghoreans.
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This comes from the fact that, when $n$ is odd$$left(n,fracn^2-12,fracn^2+12right)$$is a pythagorean triple and, when $n$ is even,$$left(n,left(frac n2right)^2-1,left(frac n2right)^2+1right)$$is a pythagorean triple too. In the first case, the second and the third numbers differ by $1$ and, in the second case, they differ by $2$.
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I just verified these results myself, but I was wondering where these come from. Is this just a common fact, if so do you have a link to its proof?
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– Jamminermit
Oct 2 at 18:57
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You just use the fact thatbeginalignn^2+left(fracn^2-12right)^2&=n^2+fracn^4-2n^2+14\&=fracn^4+2n^2+14\&=left(fracn^2+12right)^2.endalignThe other one is similar. These are very old formulas, which were probably already know by the phytaghoreans.
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This comes from the fact that, when $n$ is odd$$left(n,fracn^2-12,fracn^2+12right)$$is a pythagorean triple and, when $n$ is even,$$left(n,left(frac n2right)^2-1,left(frac n2right)^2+1right)$$is a pythagorean triple too. In the first case, the second and the third numbers differ by $1$ and, in the second case, they differ by $2$.
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This comes from the fact that, when $n$ is odd$$left(n,fracn^2-12,fracn^2+12right)$$is a pythagorean triple and, when $n$ is even,$$left(n,left(frac n2right)^2-1,left(frac n2right)^2+1right)$$is a pythagorean triple too. In the first case, the second and the third numbers differ by $1$ and, in the second case, they differ by $2$.
answered Sep 27 at 20:41
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I just verified these results myself, but I was wondering where these come from. Is this just a common fact, if so do you have a link to its proof?
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You just use the fact thatbeginalignn^2+left(fracn^2-12right)^2&=n^2+fracn^4-2n^2+14\&=fracn^4+2n^2+14\&=left(fracn^2+12right)^2.endalignThe other one is similar. These are very old formulas, which were probably already know by the phytaghoreans.
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I just verified these results myself, but I was wondering where these come from. Is this just a common fact, if so do you have a link to its proof?
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You just use the fact thatbeginalignn^2+left(fracn^2-12right)^2&=n^2+fracn^4-2n^2+14\&=fracn^4+2n^2+14\&=left(fracn^2+12right)^2.endalignThe other one is similar. These are very old formulas, which were probably already know by the phytaghoreans.
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– José Carlos Santos
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I just verified these results myself, but I was wondering where these come from. Is this just a common fact, if so do you have a link to its proof?
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– Jamminermit
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I just verified these results myself, but I was wondering where these come from. Is this just a common fact, if so do you have a link to its proof?
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– Jamminermit
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You just use the fact thatbeginalignn^2+left(fracn^2-12right)^2&=n^2+fracn^4-2n^2+14\&=fracn^4+2n^2+14\&=left(fracn^2+12right)^2.endalignThe other one is similar. These are very old formulas, which were probably already know by the phytaghoreans.
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– José Carlos Santos
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You just use the fact thatbeginalignn^2+left(fracn^2-12right)^2&=n^2+fracn^4-2n^2+14\&=fracn^4+2n^2+14\&=left(fracn^2+12right)^2.endalignThe other one is similar. These are very old formulas, which were probably already know by the phytaghoreans.
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A primitive Pythagorean triple is of the form $$m^2-n^2, 2mn, m^2+n^2$$ where $mgt n$, $m,n$ have no common prime factor and one of $m,n$ is even.
If $n=1$ you automatically have two numbers which differ by $2$. If $m=n+r$ then you have $2n^2+2nr$ and $2n^2+2nr+r^2$ so if $m-n=1$ you automatically have sides which differ by $1$.
Now look at the first few possible pairs for $m,n$
We have $2,1$ giving $3,4,5$
Then $3,2$ giving $5,12,13$
And $4,1$ with $15, 8, 17$
And $4,3$ with $7, 24, 25$
And $5,2$ with $21, 20, 29$
etc
This last is not one of the ones I caught, but the closeness here is essentially because the numbers $m$ and $n$ are small.
As numbers get larger, cases like $10,7$ giving $51, 140, 149$;
or $10,3$ leading to $91, 60, 109$ become more typical.
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A primitive Pythagorean triple is of the form $$m^2-n^2, 2mn, m^2+n^2$$ where $mgt n$, $m,n$ have no common prime factor and one of $m,n$ is even.
If $n=1$ you automatically have two numbers which differ by $2$. If $m=n+r$ then you have $2n^2+2nr$ and $2n^2+2nr+r^2$ so if $m-n=1$ you automatically have sides which differ by $1$.
Now look at the first few possible pairs for $m,n$
We have $2,1$ giving $3,4,5$
Then $3,2$ giving $5,12,13$
And $4,1$ with $15, 8, 17$
And $4,3$ with $7, 24, 25$
And $5,2$ with $21, 20, 29$
etc
This last is not one of the ones I caught, but the closeness here is essentially because the numbers $m$ and $n$ are small.
As numbers get larger, cases like $10,7$ giving $51, 140, 149$;
or $10,3$ leading to $91, 60, 109$ become more typical.
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A primitive Pythagorean triple is of the form $$m^2-n^2, 2mn, m^2+n^2$$ where $mgt n$, $m,n$ have no common prime factor and one of $m,n$ is even.
If $n=1$ you automatically have two numbers which differ by $2$. If $m=n+r$ then you have $2n^2+2nr$ and $2n^2+2nr+r^2$ so if $m-n=1$ you automatically have sides which differ by $1$.
Now look at the first few possible pairs for $m,n$
We have $2,1$ giving $3,4,5$
Then $3,2$ giving $5,12,13$
And $4,1$ with $15, 8, 17$
And $4,3$ with $7, 24, 25$
And $5,2$ with $21, 20, 29$
etc
This last is not one of the ones I caught, but the closeness here is essentially because the numbers $m$ and $n$ are small.
As numbers get larger, cases like $10,7$ giving $51, 140, 149$;
or $10,3$ leading to $91, 60, 109$ become more typical.
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A primitive Pythagorean triple is of the form $$m^2-n^2, 2mn, m^2+n^2$$ where $mgt n$, $m,n$ have no common prime factor and one of $m,n$ is even.
If $n=1$ you automatically have two numbers which differ by $2$. If $m=n+r$ then you have $2n^2+2nr$ and $2n^2+2nr+r^2$ so if $m-n=1$ you automatically have sides which differ by $1$.
Now look at the first few possible pairs for $m,n$
We have $2,1$ giving $3,4,5$
Then $3,2$ giving $5,12,13$
And $4,1$ with $15, 8, 17$
And $4,3$ with $7, 24, 25$
And $5,2$ with $21, 20, 29$
etc
This last is not one of the ones I caught, but the closeness here is essentially because the numbers $m$ and $n$ are small.
As numbers get larger, cases like $10,7$ giving $51, 140, 149$;
or $10,3$ leading to $91, 60, 109$ become more typical.
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All pythagorean triples are given by
$$a = m^2 - n^2 , , b = 2mn , , c = m^2 + n^2 $$
for any pair $m>n>0$.
In order to have a small $a$ we can set $m=n+k$ with $k$ small and therefore
- $b=2n^2+2nk$
- $c=2n^2+2nk+k^2$
therefore
$$b-c=k^2$$
which tends to be relatively "small".
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All pythagorean triples are given by
$$a = m^2 - n^2 , , b = 2mn , , c = m^2 + n^2 $$
for any pair $m>n>0$.
In order to have a small $a$ we can set $m=n+k$ with $k$ small and therefore
- $b=2n^2+2nk$
- $c=2n^2+2nk+k^2$
therefore
$$b-c=k^2$$
which tends to be relatively "small".
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All pythagorean triples are given by
$$a = m^2 - n^2 , , b = 2mn , , c = m^2 + n^2 $$
for any pair $m>n>0$.
In order to have a small $a$ we can set $m=n+k$ with $k$ small and therefore
- $b=2n^2+2nk$
- $c=2n^2+2nk+k^2$
therefore
$$b-c=k^2$$
which tends to be relatively "small".
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All pythagorean triples are given by
$$a = m^2 - n^2 , , b = 2mn , , c = m^2 + n^2 $$
for any pair $m>n>0$.
In order to have a small $a$ we can set $m=n+k$ with $k$ small and therefore
- $b=2n^2+2nk$
- $c=2n^2+2nk+k^2$
therefore
$$b-c=k^2$$
which tends to be relatively "small".
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If you want for example that $$c=b+1$$
you choose $a$ such that
$$a^2=2b+1=(2k+1)^2$$
or
$$b=2k^2+2k$$
for $k=3$ you get
$$b=24 , a=7 text and c=25$$
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The question is about small difference, not large ones.
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@JoséCarlosSantos I understood he said that there is always a difference equal to one or two.
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The OP wrote “I noticed a trend that there are usually two numbers which differ by only one or two”. Where did you see a “always” here?
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I have already deleted posts using a mobile. Not from the StackExchange app, but using a web browser.
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If you want for example that $$c=b+1$$
you choose $a$ such that
$$a^2=2b+1=(2k+1)^2$$
or
$$b=2k^2+2k$$
for $k=3$ you get
$$b=24 , a=7 text and c=25$$
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The question is about small difference, not large ones.
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– José Carlos Santos
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@JoséCarlosSantos I understood he said that there is always a difference equal to one or two.
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The OP wrote “I noticed a trend that there are usually two numbers which differ by only one or two”. Where did you see a “always” here?
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If you want for example that $$c=b+1$$
you choose $a$ such that
$$a^2=2b+1=(2k+1)^2$$
or
$$b=2k^2+2k$$
for $k=3$ you get
$$b=24 , a=7 text and c=25$$
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If you want for example that $$c=b+1$$
you choose $a$ such that
$$a^2=2b+1=(2k+1)^2$$
or
$$b=2k^2+2k$$
for $k=3$ you get
$$b=24 , a=7 text and c=25$$
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The question is about small difference, not large ones.
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@JoséCarlosSantos I understood he said that there is always a difference equal to one or two.
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The OP wrote “I noticed a trend that there are usually two numbers which differ by only one or two”. Where did you see a “always” here?
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The question is about small difference, not large ones.
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@JoséCarlosSantos I understood he said that there is always a difference equal to one or two.
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– hamam_Abdallah
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The OP wrote “I noticed a trend that there are usually two numbers which differ by only one or two”. Where did you see a “always” here?
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The question is about small difference, not large ones.
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– José Carlos Santos
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The well-known Euclid's formula is $A=m^2-n^2quad B=2mnquad C=m^2+n^2$ and generates trivial triples, all primitives, doubles and square multiples of primitives but in a seemingly random pattern. A variation replaces $(m,n)$ with $(2n-1+k,k)$, produces no trivial triples, and generates only the subset where GCD(A,B,C) is an odd square:
$$A=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)kquad B=2(2n-1)k+2k^2quad C=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k+2k^2$$
This formula generates a distinct pattern of sets that can be seen in the sample below where the increment between values of $A$ in each set is $2(2n-1)$ and $C-B=(2n-1)^2$.
$$beginarrayc
n & Triple_1 & Triple_2 & Triple_3 & Triple_4 \ hline
Set_1 & 3,4,5 & 5,12,13& 7,24,25& 9,40,41\ hline
Set_2 & 15,8,17 & 21,20,29 &27,36,45 &33,56,65\ hline
Set_3 & 35,12,37 & 45,28,53 &55,48,73 &65,72,97 \ hline
Set_4 &63,16,65 &77,36,85 &91,60,109 &105,88,137\ hline
endarray$$
Setting $n=1$ reduces formula to $$A=2k+1=quad B=2k(k+1)quad C=2k(k+1)+1$$ and generates only $Set_1$ where $C-B=1$.
Setting $k-1$ reduces the formula to $$A=4n^2-1quad B=4nquad C=4n^2+1$$ and generates only the first member of each set where $C-A=2$.
Another unrelated formula generates only the rare triples where $B-A=1$ such as $(3,4,5), (20,21,29), (119,120,169), (696,697,985)$. That formula begins with $A_1,B_1,C_1=3,4,5$ and then builds each triple based on its predecessor: $$A_n+1=3A_n+2C_n+1quad B_n+1=3A_n+2C_n+2quad C_n+1=4A_n+3C_n+2$$
There are an infinite number of these but they get scarcer with altitude; Excel can only generate 19 or them before resulting in trailing zeros. The $19^th$ is $(211929657785303,211929657785304,299713796309065)$.
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The well-known Euclid's formula is $A=m^2-n^2quad B=2mnquad C=m^2+n^2$ and generates trivial triples, all primitives, doubles and square multiples of primitives but in a seemingly random pattern. A variation replaces $(m,n)$ with $(2n-1+k,k)$, produces no trivial triples, and generates only the subset where GCD(A,B,C) is an odd square:
$$A=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)kquad B=2(2n-1)k+2k^2quad C=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k+2k^2$$
This formula generates a distinct pattern of sets that can be seen in the sample below where the increment between values of $A$ in each set is $2(2n-1)$ and $C-B=(2n-1)^2$.
$$beginarrayc
n & Triple_1 & Triple_2 & Triple_3 & Triple_4 \ hline
Set_1 & 3,4,5 & 5,12,13& 7,24,25& 9,40,41\ hline
Set_2 & 15,8,17 & 21,20,29 &27,36,45 &33,56,65\ hline
Set_3 & 35,12,37 & 45,28,53 &55,48,73 &65,72,97 \ hline
Set_4 &63,16,65 &77,36,85 &91,60,109 &105,88,137\ hline
endarray$$
Setting $n=1$ reduces formula to $$A=2k+1=quad B=2k(k+1)quad C=2k(k+1)+1$$ and generates only $Set_1$ where $C-B=1$.
Setting $k-1$ reduces the formula to $$A=4n^2-1quad B=4nquad C=4n^2+1$$ and generates only the first member of each set where $C-A=2$.
Another unrelated formula generates only the rare triples where $B-A=1$ such as $(3,4,5), (20,21,29), (119,120,169), (696,697,985)$. That formula begins with $A_1,B_1,C_1=3,4,5$ and then builds each triple based on its predecessor: $$A_n+1=3A_n+2C_n+1quad B_n+1=3A_n+2C_n+2quad C_n+1=4A_n+3C_n+2$$
There are an infinite number of these but they get scarcer with altitude; Excel can only generate 19 or them before resulting in trailing zeros. The $19^th$ is $(211929657785303,211929657785304,299713796309065)$.
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The well-known Euclid's formula is $A=m^2-n^2quad B=2mnquad C=m^2+n^2$ and generates trivial triples, all primitives, doubles and square multiples of primitives but in a seemingly random pattern. A variation replaces $(m,n)$ with $(2n-1+k,k)$, produces no trivial triples, and generates only the subset where GCD(A,B,C) is an odd square:
$$A=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)kquad B=2(2n-1)k+2k^2quad C=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k+2k^2$$
This formula generates a distinct pattern of sets that can be seen in the sample below where the increment between values of $A$ in each set is $2(2n-1)$ and $C-B=(2n-1)^2$.
$$beginarrayc
n & Triple_1 & Triple_2 & Triple_3 & Triple_4 \ hline
Set_1 & 3,4,5 & 5,12,13& 7,24,25& 9,40,41\ hline
Set_2 & 15,8,17 & 21,20,29 &27,36,45 &33,56,65\ hline
Set_3 & 35,12,37 & 45,28,53 &55,48,73 &65,72,97 \ hline
Set_4 &63,16,65 &77,36,85 &91,60,109 &105,88,137\ hline
endarray$$
Setting $n=1$ reduces formula to $$A=2k+1=quad B=2k(k+1)quad C=2k(k+1)+1$$ and generates only $Set_1$ where $C-B=1$.
Setting $k-1$ reduces the formula to $$A=4n^2-1quad B=4nquad C=4n^2+1$$ and generates only the first member of each set where $C-A=2$.
Another unrelated formula generates only the rare triples where $B-A=1$ such as $(3,4,5), (20,21,29), (119,120,169), (696,697,985)$. That formula begins with $A_1,B_1,C_1=3,4,5$ and then builds each triple based on its predecessor: $$A_n+1=3A_n+2C_n+1quad B_n+1=3A_n+2C_n+2quad C_n+1=4A_n+3C_n+2$$
There are an infinite number of these but they get scarcer with altitude; Excel can only generate 19 or them before resulting in trailing zeros. The $19^th$ is $(211929657785303,211929657785304,299713796309065)$.
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The well-known Euclid's formula is $A=m^2-n^2quad B=2mnquad C=m^2+n^2$ and generates trivial triples, all primitives, doubles and square multiples of primitives but in a seemingly random pattern. A variation replaces $(m,n)$ with $(2n-1+k,k)$, produces no trivial triples, and generates only the subset where GCD(A,B,C) is an odd square:
$$A=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)kquad B=2(2n-1)k+2k^2quad C=(2n-1)^2+2(2n-1)k+2k^2$$
This formula generates a distinct pattern of sets that can be seen in the sample below where the increment between values of $A$ in each set is $2(2n-1)$ and $C-B=(2n-1)^2$.
$$beginarrayc
n & Triple_1 & Triple_2 & Triple_3 & Triple_4 \ hline
Set_1 & 3,4,5 & 5,12,13& 7,24,25& 9,40,41\ hline
Set_2 & 15,8,17 & 21,20,29 &27,36,45 &33,56,65\ hline
Set_3 & 35,12,37 & 45,28,53 &55,48,73 &65,72,97 \ hline
Set_4 &63,16,65 &77,36,85 &91,60,109 &105,88,137\ hline
endarray$$
Setting $n=1$ reduces formula to $$A=2k+1=quad B=2k(k+1)quad C=2k(k+1)+1$$ and generates only $Set_1$ where $C-B=1$.
Setting $k-1$ reduces the formula to $$A=4n^2-1quad B=4nquad C=4n^2+1$$ and generates only the first member of each set where $C-A=2$.
Another unrelated formula generates only the rare triples where $B-A=1$ such as $(3,4,5), (20,21,29), (119,120,169), (696,697,985)$. That formula begins with $A_1,B_1,C_1=3,4,5$ and then builds each triple based on its predecessor: $$A_n+1=3A_n+2C_n+1quad B_n+1=3A_n+2C_n+2quad C_n+1=4A_n+3C_n+2$$
There are an infinite number of these but they get scarcer with altitude; Excel can only generate 19 or them before resulting in trailing zeros. The $19^th$ is $(211929657785303,211929657785304,299713796309065)$.
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