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Classification of bundles, Postnikov towers, obstruction theory, local coefficients


Classification of $O(2)$-bundles in terms of characteristic classespullback diagram of principal bundlesCohomology class of the group extension from a principal bundleWhen are principal bundles preserved by colimits?Is there an analogue of CW-complexes built from $K(mathbb Z, n)$ instead of $S^n$?The inability to continue a fibration sequence even when a delooping existsPostnikov Classes of Lie GroupsPostnikov-type tower for a map between spacesCompute cohomology of flat fiber bundles - does this always work?What is the fundamental group of $mathcal O_mathbb P^n(k)$ minus the zero sectionTwisted spin-bordism invariant and a possible Postnikov square from $d=2$ to $d=5$













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RECAP on classification of bundles



We want to classify $G$-principal bundles over $X$ (smooth manifold, G compact Lie). These are in 1-1 correspondence with homotopy classes of maps $[X,BG]$ (where $EGto BG$ is the universal bundle as usual).
If $BG simeq K(pi,n)$ then it's easy:
$$[X, BG]leftrightarrow H^n(X,pi),$$
therefore there is a cohomology class that gives us the classification (e.g. the 1st Chern class for the frame bundles of complex line bundles).
In general, $BG$ can be more complicated, in any case $BG$ has a Postnikov tower which induces a factorization of the classifying map $fin [X, BG]$ in $(f_i)_i$
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
vdots@. vdots\
@| @VVV \
X@>>f_2> P_2(BG)\
@| @VVp_2V \
X @>>f_1> P_1(BG)@.simeq K(pi_1(BG),1)
endCD



The homotopy type of $f$ is given by the homotopy type of the $f_i$s. Since $P_1(BG)simeq K(pi_1(BG),1)$ $f_1$ is given by a cohomology class in $H^1(X, pi_1(BG))$. However, not any choice of $f_2$ works, because it must lift $f_1$.
From this answer* I learned that there is a Cartesian diagram
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
X@>>f_2> P_2(BG) @>>> K(pi_0G,1)\
@| @VVp_2V @VVV\
X @>>f_1> P_1(BG) @>>> K(pi_2 G,3)_hpi_0G
endCD




1)Explanation/references for this? I was expecting the second column to be something like $K(pi_2(BG),2)to K(pi_1(BG),1)$, it reminds me of principal fibrations.



2)How to see that these lifts are parametrized by $H^2(X,pi_2(BG))$ cohomology with local coefficients twisted by $f_1in H^1(X,pi_1(BG))$? Obstruction theory tells the necessary conditions to lift $f_1$ but not how many lifts there are.




In the end we get that the principal bundle is classified by
$f_1sim alpha_1 in H^1(X,pi_1(BG))$ and a sequence of cohomology classes $alpha_k in H^k(X, pi_k(BG)) $ in the cohomology with local coefficients twisted by $alpha_1$.




3) How to compute them? Is there any example for say $G=O(2)$? Any link with invariant polynomials in $mathfrakg$ or the Weyl algebra of $mathfrakg$?




This is essentially Denis Nardin's answer.
In his comment Nardin, says another interesting thing if $G=O(n)$, then $alpha_1 = 0 $ iff the bundle is orientable, $alpha_1, alpha_2 = 0$ iff the bundle is spin and so on climbing the Whitehead tower of $O(n)$
$$O(n)leftarrow SO(n)leftarrow Spin(n)leftarrow String(n)leftarrow ...$$




4)Is this true for any Whitehead tower of groups? Does this implicitly say that the Postnikov tower of $SO(n)$ $(Spin(n))$ is the one of $O(n)$ without the first (second) term?




BG as a twisted product



If $pi_1(BG)$acts on $pi_n+1(BG)$ trivially then



  1. the Postnikov tower gives us an expression for $BG$ in terms of a twisted product of Eilenberg-MacLane spaces $BG simeq K(pi_1(BG),1)times_k_1 K(pi_2(BG),2)times_k_2 dots$

  2. There is no need of local coefficients for the $alpha_k$ above.

In the same answer*, Mark Grant says that in the case of $G=O(2)$:





there is a fibration
$$
K(mathbbZ,2)to EmathbbZ/2times_mathbbZ/2 K(mathbbZ,2)to BmathbbZ/2
$$

given by the twisting of $w_1$ on the universal $SO(2)$ bundle, and this fibration agrees up to homotopy with the fibration
$$BSO(2)to BO(2)to BO(1).$$





Question:




5) Can you explain this in the more general setting of a fibration $Fto Eto B$? Also I do not understand $EmathbbZ/2times_mathbbZ/2 K(mathbbZ,2)$, what is the $mathbbZ/2$ action on $K(mathbbZ,2)$? Grant says $w_1$ is involved but I cannot imagine how. (I know that in general $w_1 in H^1(X, pi_1(BO(2))$ gives me an action of $pi_1(X)$ on $pi_n(BO(2))$).
How does this relate to the Whitehead tower above?




*Classification of $O(2)$-bundles in terms of characteristic classes










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    In the second diagram, the bottom right corner should be $K(pi_2G, 3)_hpi_0G$, so that the fiber of the vertical map over it is equivalent to $K(pi_2 G, 2)$.
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    – Charles Rezk
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    The tower in Mark Grant's answer is not the Whitehead tower, but the Postnikov tower (which is fairly degenerate, since $BO(2)$ is a 2-type so that $P_2(BO(2))=BO(2)$ and $P_1(BO(2))=BmathbbZ/2=BO(1)$). I'll see if I can write an answer, but I'd have to say that I don't understand most of your questions
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    Also, the reason why the homotopy quotient is there is precisely that this is not a principal fibration, so local coefficients appear
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    Apr 14 at 15:19










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    @DenisNardin Thanks, many of the above questions came out trying to understand your previous answer. Sorry if they are messy, so is my understanding of the subject. In particular question 2) asks about why you state in your answer that "the possible choices are parametrized by a class in $H^n+3(X,pi_n+1G)$". As far as I know (very little) obstruction theory tells us if we can lift but -gives us a cohomological obstruction to lifting- but it does not tell how many possible lifts we have.
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    Apr 14 at 15:47







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    @WarlockofFiretopMountain Obstruction theory tells you absolutely how many lifts there are! In fact it tells you the homotopy type of the space of lifts :). I'll try to write something, without repeating too much what Charles has already written. BTW I think I screwed up the indexing in my old answer (what's new, heh? :)), I think I fixed it now, so you might want to double check.
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    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:48
















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$begingroup$


RECAP on classification of bundles



We want to classify $G$-principal bundles over $X$ (smooth manifold, G compact Lie). These are in 1-1 correspondence with homotopy classes of maps $[X,BG]$ (where $EGto BG$ is the universal bundle as usual).
If $BG simeq K(pi,n)$ then it's easy:
$$[X, BG]leftrightarrow H^n(X,pi),$$
therefore there is a cohomology class that gives us the classification (e.g. the 1st Chern class for the frame bundles of complex line bundles).
In general, $BG$ can be more complicated, in any case $BG$ has a Postnikov tower which induces a factorization of the classifying map $fin [X, BG]$ in $(f_i)_i$
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
vdots@. vdots\
@| @VVV \
X@>>f_2> P_2(BG)\
@| @VVp_2V \
X @>>f_1> P_1(BG)@.simeq K(pi_1(BG),1)
endCD



The homotopy type of $f$ is given by the homotopy type of the $f_i$s. Since $P_1(BG)simeq K(pi_1(BG),1)$ $f_1$ is given by a cohomology class in $H^1(X, pi_1(BG))$. However, not any choice of $f_2$ works, because it must lift $f_1$.
From this answer* I learned that there is a Cartesian diagram
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
X@>>f_2> P_2(BG) @>>> K(pi_0G,1)\
@| @VVp_2V @VVV\
X @>>f_1> P_1(BG) @>>> K(pi_2 G,3)_hpi_0G
endCD




1)Explanation/references for this? I was expecting the second column to be something like $K(pi_2(BG),2)to K(pi_1(BG),1)$, it reminds me of principal fibrations.



2)How to see that these lifts are parametrized by $H^2(X,pi_2(BG))$ cohomology with local coefficients twisted by $f_1in H^1(X,pi_1(BG))$? Obstruction theory tells the necessary conditions to lift $f_1$ but not how many lifts there are.




In the end we get that the principal bundle is classified by
$f_1sim alpha_1 in H^1(X,pi_1(BG))$ and a sequence of cohomology classes $alpha_k in H^k(X, pi_k(BG)) $ in the cohomology with local coefficients twisted by $alpha_1$.




3) How to compute them? Is there any example for say $G=O(2)$? Any link with invariant polynomials in $mathfrakg$ or the Weyl algebra of $mathfrakg$?




This is essentially Denis Nardin's answer.
In his comment Nardin, says another interesting thing if $G=O(n)$, then $alpha_1 = 0 $ iff the bundle is orientable, $alpha_1, alpha_2 = 0$ iff the bundle is spin and so on climbing the Whitehead tower of $O(n)$
$$O(n)leftarrow SO(n)leftarrow Spin(n)leftarrow String(n)leftarrow ...$$




4)Is this true for any Whitehead tower of groups? Does this implicitly say that the Postnikov tower of $SO(n)$ $(Spin(n))$ is the one of $O(n)$ without the first (second) term?




BG as a twisted product



If $pi_1(BG)$acts on $pi_n+1(BG)$ trivially then



  1. the Postnikov tower gives us an expression for $BG$ in terms of a twisted product of Eilenberg-MacLane spaces $BG simeq K(pi_1(BG),1)times_k_1 K(pi_2(BG),2)times_k_2 dots$

  2. There is no need of local coefficients for the $alpha_k$ above.

In the same answer*, Mark Grant says that in the case of $G=O(2)$:





there is a fibration
$$
K(mathbbZ,2)to EmathbbZ/2times_mathbbZ/2 K(mathbbZ,2)to BmathbbZ/2
$$

given by the twisting of $w_1$ on the universal $SO(2)$ bundle, and this fibration agrees up to homotopy with the fibration
$$BSO(2)to BO(2)to BO(1).$$





Question:




5) Can you explain this in the more general setting of a fibration $Fto Eto B$? Also I do not understand $EmathbbZ/2times_mathbbZ/2 K(mathbbZ,2)$, what is the $mathbbZ/2$ action on $K(mathbbZ,2)$? Grant says $w_1$ is involved but I cannot imagine how. (I know that in general $w_1 in H^1(X, pi_1(BO(2))$ gives me an action of $pi_1(X)$ on $pi_n(BO(2))$).
How does this relate to the Whitehead tower above?




*Classification of $O(2)$-bundles in terms of characteristic classes










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  • 2




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    In the second diagram, the bottom right corner should be $K(pi_2G, 3)_hpi_0G$, so that the fiber of the vertical map over it is equivalent to $K(pi_2 G, 2)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 14:52







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    $begingroup$
    The tower in Mark Grant's answer is not the Whitehead tower, but the Postnikov tower (which is fairly degenerate, since $BO(2)$ is a 2-type so that $P_2(BO(2))=BO(2)$ and $P_1(BO(2))=BmathbbZ/2=BO(1)$). I'll see if I can write an answer, but I'd have to say that I don't understand most of your questions
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    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:13











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    Also, the reason why the homotopy quotient is there is precisely that this is not a principal fibration, so local coefficients appear
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:19










  • $begingroup$
    @DenisNardin Thanks, many of the above questions came out trying to understand your previous answer. Sorry if they are messy, so is my understanding of the subject. In particular question 2) asks about why you state in your answer that "the possible choices are parametrized by a class in $H^n+3(X,pi_n+1G)$". As far as I know (very little) obstruction theory tells us if we can lift but -gives us a cohomological obstruction to lifting- but it does not tell how many possible lifts we have.
    $endgroup$
    – Warlock of Firetop Mountain
    Apr 14 at 15:47







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    @WarlockofFiretopMountain Obstruction theory tells you absolutely how many lifts there are! In fact it tells you the homotopy type of the space of lifts :). I'll try to write something, without repeating too much what Charles has already written. BTW I think I screwed up the indexing in my old answer (what's new, heh? :)), I think I fixed it now, so you might want to double check.
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:48














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$begingroup$


RECAP on classification of bundles



We want to classify $G$-principal bundles over $X$ (smooth manifold, G compact Lie). These are in 1-1 correspondence with homotopy classes of maps $[X,BG]$ (where $EGto BG$ is the universal bundle as usual).
If $BG simeq K(pi,n)$ then it's easy:
$$[X, BG]leftrightarrow H^n(X,pi),$$
therefore there is a cohomology class that gives us the classification (e.g. the 1st Chern class for the frame bundles of complex line bundles).
In general, $BG$ can be more complicated, in any case $BG$ has a Postnikov tower which induces a factorization of the classifying map $fin [X, BG]$ in $(f_i)_i$
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
vdots@. vdots\
@| @VVV \
X@>>f_2> P_2(BG)\
@| @VVp_2V \
X @>>f_1> P_1(BG)@.simeq K(pi_1(BG),1)
endCD



The homotopy type of $f$ is given by the homotopy type of the $f_i$s. Since $P_1(BG)simeq K(pi_1(BG),1)$ $f_1$ is given by a cohomology class in $H^1(X, pi_1(BG))$. However, not any choice of $f_2$ works, because it must lift $f_1$.
From this answer* I learned that there is a Cartesian diagram
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
X@>>f_2> P_2(BG) @>>> K(pi_0G,1)\
@| @VVp_2V @VVV\
X @>>f_1> P_1(BG) @>>> K(pi_2 G,3)_hpi_0G
endCD




1)Explanation/references for this? I was expecting the second column to be something like $K(pi_2(BG),2)to K(pi_1(BG),1)$, it reminds me of principal fibrations.



2)How to see that these lifts are parametrized by $H^2(X,pi_2(BG))$ cohomology with local coefficients twisted by $f_1in H^1(X,pi_1(BG))$? Obstruction theory tells the necessary conditions to lift $f_1$ but not how many lifts there are.




In the end we get that the principal bundle is classified by
$f_1sim alpha_1 in H^1(X,pi_1(BG))$ and a sequence of cohomology classes $alpha_k in H^k(X, pi_k(BG)) $ in the cohomology with local coefficients twisted by $alpha_1$.




3) How to compute them? Is there any example for say $G=O(2)$? Any link with invariant polynomials in $mathfrakg$ or the Weyl algebra of $mathfrakg$?




This is essentially Denis Nardin's answer.
In his comment Nardin, says another interesting thing if $G=O(n)$, then $alpha_1 = 0 $ iff the bundle is orientable, $alpha_1, alpha_2 = 0$ iff the bundle is spin and so on climbing the Whitehead tower of $O(n)$
$$O(n)leftarrow SO(n)leftarrow Spin(n)leftarrow String(n)leftarrow ...$$




4)Is this true for any Whitehead tower of groups? Does this implicitly say that the Postnikov tower of $SO(n)$ $(Spin(n))$ is the one of $O(n)$ without the first (second) term?




BG as a twisted product



If $pi_1(BG)$acts on $pi_n+1(BG)$ trivially then



  1. the Postnikov tower gives us an expression for $BG$ in terms of a twisted product of Eilenberg-MacLane spaces $BG simeq K(pi_1(BG),1)times_k_1 K(pi_2(BG),2)times_k_2 dots$

  2. There is no need of local coefficients for the $alpha_k$ above.

In the same answer*, Mark Grant says that in the case of $G=O(2)$:





there is a fibration
$$
K(mathbbZ,2)to EmathbbZ/2times_mathbbZ/2 K(mathbbZ,2)to BmathbbZ/2
$$

given by the twisting of $w_1$ on the universal $SO(2)$ bundle, and this fibration agrees up to homotopy with the fibration
$$BSO(2)to BO(2)to BO(1).$$





Question:




5) Can you explain this in the more general setting of a fibration $Fto Eto B$? Also I do not understand $EmathbbZ/2times_mathbbZ/2 K(mathbbZ,2)$, what is the $mathbbZ/2$ action on $K(mathbbZ,2)$? Grant says $w_1$ is involved but I cannot imagine how. (I know that in general $w_1 in H^1(X, pi_1(BO(2))$ gives me an action of $pi_1(X)$ on $pi_n(BO(2))$).
How does this relate to the Whitehead tower above?




*Classification of $O(2)$-bundles in terms of characteristic classes










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$




RECAP on classification of bundles



We want to classify $G$-principal bundles over $X$ (smooth manifold, G compact Lie). These are in 1-1 correspondence with homotopy classes of maps $[X,BG]$ (where $EGto BG$ is the universal bundle as usual).
If $BG simeq K(pi,n)$ then it's easy:
$$[X, BG]leftrightarrow H^n(X,pi),$$
therefore there is a cohomology class that gives us the classification (e.g. the 1st Chern class for the frame bundles of complex line bundles).
In general, $BG$ can be more complicated, in any case $BG$ has a Postnikov tower which induces a factorization of the classifying map $fin [X, BG]$ in $(f_i)_i$
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
vdots@. vdots\
@| @VVV \
X@>>f_2> P_2(BG)\
@| @VVp_2V \
X @>>f_1> P_1(BG)@.simeq K(pi_1(BG),1)
endCD



The homotopy type of $f$ is given by the homotopy type of the $f_i$s. Since $P_1(BG)simeq K(pi_1(BG),1)$ $f_1$ is given by a cohomology class in $H^1(X, pi_1(BG))$. However, not any choice of $f_2$ works, because it must lift $f_1$.
From this answer* I learned that there is a Cartesian diagram
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
X@>>f_2> P_2(BG) @>>> K(pi_0G,1)\
@| @VVp_2V @VVV\
X @>>f_1> P_1(BG) @>>> K(pi_2 G,3)_hpi_0G
endCD




1)Explanation/references for this? I was expecting the second column to be something like $K(pi_2(BG),2)to K(pi_1(BG),1)$, it reminds me of principal fibrations.



2)How to see that these lifts are parametrized by $H^2(X,pi_2(BG))$ cohomology with local coefficients twisted by $f_1in H^1(X,pi_1(BG))$? Obstruction theory tells the necessary conditions to lift $f_1$ but not how many lifts there are.




In the end we get that the principal bundle is classified by
$f_1sim alpha_1 in H^1(X,pi_1(BG))$ and a sequence of cohomology classes $alpha_k in H^k(X, pi_k(BG)) $ in the cohomology with local coefficients twisted by $alpha_1$.




3) How to compute them? Is there any example for say $G=O(2)$? Any link with invariant polynomials in $mathfrakg$ or the Weyl algebra of $mathfrakg$?




This is essentially Denis Nardin's answer.
In his comment Nardin, says another interesting thing if $G=O(n)$, then $alpha_1 = 0 $ iff the bundle is orientable, $alpha_1, alpha_2 = 0$ iff the bundle is spin and so on climbing the Whitehead tower of $O(n)$
$$O(n)leftarrow SO(n)leftarrow Spin(n)leftarrow String(n)leftarrow ...$$




4)Is this true for any Whitehead tower of groups? Does this implicitly say that the Postnikov tower of $SO(n)$ $(Spin(n))$ is the one of $O(n)$ without the first (second) term?




BG as a twisted product



If $pi_1(BG)$acts on $pi_n+1(BG)$ trivially then



  1. the Postnikov tower gives us an expression for $BG$ in terms of a twisted product of Eilenberg-MacLane spaces $BG simeq K(pi_1(BG),1)times_k_1 K(pi_2(BG),2)times_k_2 dots$

  2. There is no need of local coefficients for the $alpha_k$ above.

In the same answer*, Mark Grant says that in the case of $G=O(2)$:





there is a fibration
$$
K(mathbbZ,2)to EmathbbZ/2times_mathbbZ/2 K(mathbbZ,2)to BmathbbZ/2
$$

given by the twisting of $w_1$ on the universal $SO(2)$ bundle, and this fibration agrees up to homotopy with the fibration
$$BSO(2)to BO(2)to BO(1).$$





Question:




5) Can you explain this in the more general setting of a fibration $Fto Eto B$? Also I do not understand $EmathbbZ/2times_mathbbZ/2 K(mathbbZ,2)$, what is the $mathbbZ/2$ action on $K(mathbbZ,2)$? Grant says $w_1$ is involved but I cannot imagine how. (I know that in general $w_1 in H^1(X, pi_1(BO(2))$ gives me an action of $pi_1(X)$ on $pi_n(BO(2))$).
How does this relate to the Whitehead tower above?




*Classification of $O(2)$-bundles in terms of characteristic classes







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    In the second diagram, the bottom right corner should be $K(pi_2G, 3)_hpi_0G$, so that the fiber of the vertical map over it is equivalent to $K(pi_2 G, 2)$.
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    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 14:52







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    The tower in Mark Grant's answer is not the Whitehead tower, but the Postnikov tower (which is fairly degenerate, since $BO(2)$ is a 2-type so that $P_2(BO(2))=BO(2)$ and $P_1(BO(2))=BmathbbZ/2=BO(1)$). I'll see if I can write an answer, but I'd have to say that I don't understand most of your questions
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    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:13











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    Also, the reason why the homotopy quotient is there is precisely that this is not a principal fibration, so local coefficients appear
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:19










  • $begingroup$
    @DenisNardin Thanks, many of the above questions came out trying to understand your previous answer. Sorry if they are messy, so is my understanding of the subject. In particular question 2) asks about why you state in your answer that "the possible choices are parametrized by a class in $H^n+3(X,pi_n+1G)$". As far as I know (very little) obstruction theory tells us if we can lift but -gives us a cohomological obstruction to lifting- but it does not tell how many possible lifts we have.
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    – Warlock of Firetop Mountain
    Apr 14 at 15:47







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    @WarlockofFiretopMountain Obstruction theory tells you absolutely how many lifts there are! In fact it tells you the homotopy type of the space of lifts :). I'll try to write something, without repeating too much what Charles has already written. BTW I think I screwed up the indexing in my old answer (what's new, heh? :)), I think I fixed it now, so you might want to double check.
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:48













  • 2




    $begingroup$
    In the second diagram, the bottom right corner should be $K(pi_2G, 3)_hpi_0G$, so that the fiber of the vertical map over it is equivalent to $K(pi_2 G, 2)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 14:52







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The tower in Mark Grant's answer is not the Whitehead tower, but the Postnikov tower (which is fairly degenerate, since $BO(2)$ is a 2-type so that $P_2(BO(2))=BO(2)$ and $P_1(BO(2))=BmathbbZ/2=BO(1)$). I'll see if I can write an answer, but I'd have to say that I don't understand most of your questions
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:13











  • $begingroup$
    Also, the reason why the homotopy quotient is there is precisely that this is not a principal fibration, so local coefficients appear
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:19










  • $begingroup$
    @DenisNardin Thanks, many of the above questions came out trying to understand your previous answer. Sorry if they are messy, so is my understanding of the subject. In particular question 2) asks about why you state in your answer that "the possible choices are parametrized by a class in $H^n+3(X,pi_n+1G)$". As far as I know (very little) obstruction theory tells us if we can lift but -gives us a cohomological obstruction to lifting- but it does not tell how many possible lifts we have.
    $endgroup$
    – Warlock of Firetop Mountain
    Apr 14 at 15:47







  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @WarlockofFiretopMountain Obstruction theory tells you absolutely how many lifts there are! In fact it tells you the homotopy type of the space of lifts :). I'll try to write something, without repeating too much what Charles has already written. BTW I think I screwed up the indexing in my old answer (what's new, heh? :)), I think I fixed it now, so you might want to double check.
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:48








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$begingroup$
In the second diagram, the bottom right corner should be $K(pi_2G, 3)_hpi_0G$, so that the fiber of the vertical map over it is equivalent to $K(pi_2 G, 2)$.
$endgroup$
– Charles Rezk
Apr 14 at 14:52





$begingroup$
In the second diagram, the bottom right corner should be $K(pi_2G, 3)_hpi_0G$, so that the fiber of the vertical map over it is equivalent to $K(pi_2 G, 2)$.
$endgroup$
– Charles Rezk
Apr 14 at 14:52





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The tower in Mark Grant's answer is not the Whitehead tower, but the Postnikov tower (which is fairly degenerate, since $BO(2)$ is a 2-type so that $P_2(BO(2))=BO(2)$ and $P_1(BO(2))=BmathbbZ/2=BO(1)$). I'll see if I can write an answer, but I'd have to say that I don't understand most of your questions
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– Denis Nardin
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The tower in Mark Grant's answer is not the Whitehead tower, but the Postnikov tower (which is fairly degenerate, since $BO(2)$ is a 2-type so that $P_2(BO(2))=BO(2)$ and $P_1(BO(2))=BmathbbZ/2=BO(1)$). I'll see if I can write an answer, but I'd have to say that I don't understand most of your questions
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Also, the reason why the homotopy quotient is there is precisely that this is not a principal fibration, so local coefficients appear
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– Denis Nardin
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Also, the reason why the homotopy quotient is there is precisely that this is not a principal fibration, so local coefficients appear
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@DenisNardin Thanks, many of the above questions came out trying to understand your previous answer. Sorry if they are messy, so is my understanding of the subject. In particular question 2) asks about why you state in your answer that "the possible choices are parametrized by a class in $H^n+3(X,pi_n+1G)$". As far as I know (very little) obstruction theory tells us if we can lift but -gives us a cohomological obstruction to lifting- but it does not tell how many possible lifts we have.
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– Warlock of Firetop Mountain
Apr 14 at 15:47





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@DenisNardin Thanks, many of the above questions came out trying to understand your previous answer. Sorry if they are messy, so is my understanding of the subject. In particular question 2) asks about why you state in your answer that "the possible choices are parametrized by a class in $H^n+3(X,pi_n+1G)$". As far as I know (very little) obstruction theory tells us if we can lift but -gives us a cohomological obstruction to lifting- but it does not tell how many possible lifts we have.
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@WarlockofFiretopMountain Obstruction theory tells you absolutely how many lifts there are! In fact it tells you the homotopy type of the space of lifts :). I'll try to write something, without repeating too much what Charles has already written. BTW I think I screwed up the indexing in my old answer (what's new, heh? :)), I think I fixed it now, so you might want to double check.
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– Denis Nardin
Apr 14 at 15:48





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@WarlockofFiretopMountain Obstruction theory tells you absolutely how many lifts there are! In fact it tells you the homotopy type of the space of lifts :). I'll try to write something, without repeating too much what Charles has already written. BTW I think I screwed up the indexing in my old answer (what's new, heh? :)), I think I fixed it now, so you might want to double check.
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I'll try to answer question 1. Unfortunately, I know of no especially convenient reference for the case of understanding general Postnikov towers; however, everything I say below is "well known".



In a Postikov tower for $X$, the map $p=p_ncolon P_nto P_n-1$ is, by definition, a fibration with fiber equivalent to $K(A,n)$, where $A=pi_n X$. The idea is that there exists an (essentially unique) homotopy pullback square
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
P_n @>>> E_F\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> B_F
endCD

where $q$ is the universal example of a fibration with fiber equivalent to $F:=K(A,n)$. This universal fibration is rarely ever a principal bundle.



Here is the formula for $q$: Let $defAutmathrmAutdefMapmathrmMap$ $Aut(F)subseteq Map(F,F)$ be the union of all components of the mapping space which contain homotopy equivalences. Then $Aut(F)$ is a topological monoid which is "grouplike" (i.e., $pi_0Aut(F)$ is a group), and which acts on $F$. Then the map
$$ F_hAut(F) to (*)_hAut(F)=BAut(F)$$
is the universal $F$-fibration.



For $F=K(A,n)$, it turns out you can identify $Aut(F)$ very explicitly. (I'm going to assume $ngeq 2$ here.) The construction of Eilenberg-MacLane $Amapsto K(A,n)$ spaces lifts to a functor
$$(textabelian groups)to (texttopological abelian groups).$$
Therefore we get a topological group $K(A,n)rtimes Aut(A)$ acting on $K(A,n)$ (the $K(A,n)$ acts on itself by left-translation, and $Aut(A)$ is the discrete automorphism group of $A$.) It turns out (by a computation) that this group is equivalent (up to homotopy) to the topological monoid $Aut(K(A,n))$, so
$$B_K(A,n) approx BAut(K(A,n)) approx Bbigl( K(A,n)rtimes Aut(A)bigr) approx BK(A,n)_hAut(A)approx K(A,n+1)_hAut(A),$$
and
$$E_K(A,n) approx K(A,n)_hbigl(K(A,n)rtimesAut(A)bigr) approx (*)_hAut(A) approx BAut(A).$$
So the desired pullback square has the form
beginCD
P_n @>>> BAut(A)\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> K(A,n+1)_hAut(A)
endCD

In practice, when you have a Postnikov tower of a space like $BG$, the action of the fundamental group $pi_1 BG=pi_0G$ on $A=pi_nBG$ determines a homomorphism $pi_0Gto Aut(A)$, and you can "restrict" along this homomorphism to get a pullback square
beginCD
P_n @>>> Bpi_0G\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> K(A,n+1)_hpi_0G
endCD






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    The reference I know is the one I gave in my old post, the paper by Blanc, Dwyer and Goerss The realization space of a ∏-algebra.
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    @DenisNardin Thanks! Though I kinda want a reference appropriate for someone who is just now learning what a Postnikov tower is.
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    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 15:52










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    Unfortunately the fact that they had to write the theory themselves makes me suspect that there's no elementary exposition yet.
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    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 16:12






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    If a group $K$ acts on itself by left translation, then $K_hKapprox *$. In general there's an equivalence of the form $X_h(Krtimes H)approx (X_hK)_hH$.
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    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 18:31







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    The composite $defAutmathrmAut$ $P_n-1to BAut(K(A,n))to BAut(A)$ factors through a map $P_1to BAut(A)$. Since $P_1approx Bpi_0G$, you can pullback everything along this map. That gives the final square I drew.
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I'll try to answer question 1. Unfortunately, I know of no especially convenient reference for the case of understanding general Postnikov towers; however, everything I say below is "well known".



In a Postikov tower for $X$, the map $p=p_ncolon P_nto P_n-1$ is, by definition, a fibration with fiber equivalent to $K(A,n)$, where $A=pi_n X$. The idea is that there exists an (essentially unique) homotopy pullback square
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
P_n @>>> E_F\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> B_F
endCD

where $q$ is the universal example of a fibration with fiber equivalent to $F:=K(A,n)$. This universal fibration is rarely ever a principal bundle.



Here is the formula for $q$: Let $defAutmathrmAutdefMapmathrmMap$ $Aut(F)subseteq Map(F,F)$ be the union of all components of the mapping space which contain homotopy equivalences. Then $Aut(F)$ is a topological monoid which is "grouplike" (i.e., $pi_0Aut(F)$ is a group), and which acts on $F$. Then the map
$$ F_hAut(F) to (*)_hAut(F)=BAut(F)$$
is the universal $F$-fibration.



For $F=K(A,n)$, it turns out you can identify $Aut(F)$ very explicitly. (I'm going to assume $ngeq 2$ here.) The construction of Eilenberg-MacLane $Amapsto K(A,n)$ spaces lifts to a functor
$$(textabelian groups)to (texttopological abelian groups).$$
Therefore we get a topological group $K(A,n)rtimes Aut(A)$ acting on $K(A,n)$ (the $K(A,n)$ acts on itself by left-translation, and $Aut(A)$ is the discrete automorphism group of $A$.) It turns out (by a computation) that this group is equivalent (up to homotopy) to the topological monoid $Aut(K(A,n))$, so
$$B_K(A,n) approx BAut(K(A,n)) approx Bbigl( K(A,n)rtimes Aut(A)bigr) approx BK(A,n)_hAut(A)approx K(A,n+1)_hAut(A),$$
and
$$E_K(A,n) approx K(A,n)_hbigl(K(A,n)rtimesAut(A)bigr) approx (*)_hAut(A) approx BAut(A).$$
So the desired pullback square has the form
beginCD
P_n @>>> BAut(A)\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> K(A,n+1)_hAut(A)
endCD

In practice, when you have a Postnikov tower of a space like $BG$, the action of the fundamental group $pi_1 BG=pi_0G$ on $A=pi_nBG$ determines a homomorphism $pi_0Gto Aut(A)$, and you can "restrict" along this homomorphism to get a pullback square
beginCD
P_n @>>> Bpi_0G\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> K(A,n+1)_hpi_0G
endCD






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    The reference I know is the one I gave in my old post, the paper by Blanc, Dwyer and Goerss The realization space of a ∏-algebra.
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    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:45










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    @DenisNardin Thanks! Though I kinda want a reference appropriate for someone who is just now learning what a Postnikov tower is.
    $endgroup$
    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 15:52










  • $begingroup$
    Unfortunately the fact that they had to write the theory themselves makes me suspect that there's no elementary exposition yet.
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 16:12






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    If a group $K$ acts on itself by left translation, then $K_hKapprox *$. In general there's an equivalence of the form $X_h(Krtimes H)approx (X_hK)_hH$.
    $endgroup$
    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 18:31







  • 2




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    The composite $defAutmathrmAut$ $P_n-1to BAut(K(A,n))to BAut(A)$ factors through a map $P_1to BAut(A)$. Since $P_1approx Bpi_0G$, you can pullback everything along this map. That gives the final square I drew.
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    Apr 14 at 18:33
















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$begingroup$

I'll try to answer question 1. Unfortunately, I know of no especially convenient reference for the case of understanding general Postnikov towers; however, everything I say below is "well known".



In a Postikov tower for $X$, the map $p=p_ncolon P_nto P_n-1$ is, by definition, a fibration with fiber equivalent to $K(A,n)$, where $A=pi_n X$. The idea is that there exists an (essentially unique) homotopy pullback square
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
P_n @>>> E_F\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> B_F
endCD

where $q$ is the universal example of a fibration with fiber equivalent to $F:=K(A,n)$. This universal fibration is rarely ever a principal bundle.



Here is the formula for $q$: Let $defAutmathrmAutdefMapmathrmMap$ $Aut(F)subseteq Map(F,F)$ be the union of all components of the mapping space which contain homotopy equivalences. Then $Aut(F)$ is a topological monoid which is "grouplike" (i.e., $pi_0Aut(F)$ is a group), and which acts on $F$. Then the map
$$ F_hAut(F) to (*)_hAut(F)=BAut(F)$$
is the universal $F$-fibration.



For $F=K(A,n)$, it turns out you can identify $Aut(F)$ very explicitly. (I'm going to assume $ngeq 2$ here.) The construction of Eilenberg-MacLane $Amapsto K(A,n)$ spaces lifts to a functor
$$(textabelian groups)to (texttopological abelian groups).$$
Therefore we get a topological group $K(A,n)rtimes Aut(A)$ acting on $K(A,n)$ (the $K(A,n)$ acts on itself by left-translation, and $Aut(A)$ is the discrete automorphism group of $A$.) It turns out (by a computation) that this group is equivalent (up to homotopy) to the topological monoid $Aut(K(A,n))$, so
$$B_K(A,n) approx BAut(K(A,n)) approx Bbigl( K(A,n)rtimes Aut(A)bigr) approx BK(A,n)_hAut(A)approx K(A,n+1)_hAut(A),$$
and
$$E_K(A,n) approx K(A,n)_hbigl(K(A,n)rtimesAut(A)bigr) approx (*)_hAut(A) approx BAut(A).$$
So the desired pullback square has the form
beginCD
P_n @>>> BAut(A)\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> K(A,n+1)_hAut(A)
endCD

In practice, when you have a Postnikov tower of a space like $BG$, the action of the fundamental group $pi_1 BG=pi_0G$ on $A=pi_nBG$ determines a homomorphism $pi_0Gto Aut(A)$, and you can "restrict" along this homomorphism to get a pullback square
beginCD
P_n @>>> Bpi_0G\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> K(A,n+1)_hpi_0G
endCD






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  • $begingroup$
    The reference I know is the one I gave in my old post, the paper by Blanc, Dwyer and Goerss The realization space of a ∏-algebra.
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:45










  • $begingroup$
    @DenisNardin Thanks! Though I kinda want a reference appropriate for someone who is just now learning what a Postnikov tower is.
    $endgroup$
    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 15:52










  • $begingroup$
    Unfortunately the fact that they had to write the theory themselves makes me suspect that there's no elementary exposition yet.
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 16:12






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    If a group $K$ acts on itself by left translation, then $K_hKapprox *$. In general there's an equivalence of the form $X_h(Krtimes H)approx (X_hK)_hH$.
    $endgroup$
    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 18:31







  • 2




    $begingroup$
    The composite $defAutmathrmAut$ $P_n-1to BAut(K(A,n))to BAut(A)$ factors through a map $P_1to BAut(A)$. Since $P_1approx Bpi_0G$, you can pullback everything along this map. That gives the final square I drew.
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I'll try to answer question 1. Unfortunately, I know of no especially convenient reference for the case of understanding general Postnikov towers; however, everything I say below is "well known".



In a Postikov tower for $X$, the map $p=p_ncolon P_nto P_n-1$ is, by definition, a fibration with fiber equivalent to $K(A,n)$, where $A=pi_n X$. The idea is that there exists an (essentially unique) homotopy pullback square
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
P_n @>>> E_F\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> B_F
endCD

where $q$ is the universal example of a fibration with fiber equivalent to $F:=K(A,n)$. This universal fibration is rarely ever a principal bundle.



Here is the formula for $q$: Let $defAutmathrmAutdefMapmathrmMap$ $Aut(F)subseteq Map(F,F)$ be the union of all components of the mapping space which contain homotopy equivalences. Then $Aut(F)$ is a topological monoid which is "grouplike" (i.e., $pi_0Aut(F)$ is a group), and which acts on $F$. Then the map
$$ F_hAut(F) to (*)_hAut(F)=BAut(F)$$
is the universal $F$-fibration.



For $F=K(A,n)$, it turns out you can identify $Aut(F)$ very explicitly. (I'm going to assume $ngeq 2$ here.) The construction of Eilenberg-MacLane $Amapsto K(A,n)$ spaces lifts to a functor
$$(textabelian groups)to (texttopological abelian groups).$$
Therefore we get a topological group $K(A,n)rtimes Aut(A)$ acting on $K(A,n)$ (the $K(A,n)$ acts on itself by left-translation, and $Aut(A)$ is the discrete automorphism group of $A$.) It turns out (by a computation) that this group is equivalent (up to homotopy) to the topological monoid $Aut(K(A,n))$, so
$$B_K(A,n) approx BAut(K(A,n)) approx Bbigl( K(A,n)rtimes Aut(A)bigr) approx BK(A,n)_hAut(A)approx K(A,n+1)_hAut(A),$$
and
$$E_K(A,n) approx K(A,n)_hbigl(K(A,n)rtimesAut(A)bigr) approx (*)_hAut(A) approx BAut(A).$$
So the desired pullback square has the form
beginCD
P_n @>>> BAut(A)\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> K(A,n+1)_hAut(A)
endCD

In practice, when you have a Postnikov tower of a space like $BG$, the action of the fundamental group $pi_1 BG=pi_0G$ on $A=pi_nBG$ determines a homomorphism $pi_0Gto Aut(A)$, and you can "restrict" along this homomorphism to get a pullback square
beginCD
P_n @>>> Bpi_0G\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> K(A,n+1)_hpi_0G
endCD






share|cite|improve this answer









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I'll try to answer question 1. Unfortunately, I know of no especially convenient reference for the case of understanding general Postnikov towers; however, everything I say below is "well known".



In a Postikov tower for $X$, the map $p=p_ncolon P_nto P_n-1$ is, by definition, a fibration with fiber equivalent to $K(A,n)$, where $A=pi_n X$. The idea is that there exists an (essentially unique) homotopy pullback square
$requireAMScd$
beginCD
P_n @>>> E_F\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> B_F
endCD

where $q$ is the universal example of a fibration with fiber equivalent to $F:=K(A,n)$. This universal fibration is rarely ever a principal bundle.



Here is the formula for $q$: Let $defAutmathrmAutdefMapmathrmMap$ $Aut(F)subseteq Map(F,F)$ be the union of all components of the mapping space which contain homotopy equivalences. Then $Aut(F)$ is a topological monoid which is "grouplike" (i.e., $pi_0Aut(F)$ is a group), and which acts on $F$. Then the map
$$ F_hAut(F) to (*)_hAut(F)=BAut(F)$$
is the universal $F$-fibration.



For $F=K(A,n)$, it turns out you can identify $Aut(F)$ very explicitly. (I'm going to assume $ngeq 2$ here.) The construction of Eilenberg-MacLane $Amapsto K(A,n)$ spaces lifts to a functor
$$(textabelian groups)to (texttopological abelian groups).$$
Therefore we get a topological group $K(A,n)rtimes Aut(A)$ acting on $K(A,n)$ (the $K(A,n)$ acts on itself by left-translation, and $Aut(A)$ is the discrete automorphism group of $A$.) It turns out (by a computation) that this group is equivalent (up to homotopy) to the topological monoid $Aut(K(A,n))$, so
$$B_K(A,n) approx BAut(K(A,n)) approx Bbigl( K(A,n)rtimes Aut(A)bigr) approx BK(A,n)_hAut(A)approx K(A,n+1)_hAut(A),$$
and
$$E_K(A,n) approx K(A,n)_hbigl(K(A,n)rtimesAut(A)bigr) approx (*)_hAut(A) approx BAut(A).$$
So the desired pullback square has the form
beginCD
P_n @>>> BAut(A)\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> K(A,n+1)_hAut(A)
endCD

In practice, when you have a Postnikov tower of a space like $BG$, the action of the fundamental group $pi_1 BG=pi_0G$ on $A=pi_nBG$ determines a homomorphism $pi_0Gto Aut(A)$, and you can "restrict" along this homomorphism to get a pullback square
beginCD
P_n @>>> Bpi_0G\
@VpVV @VVqV\
P_n-1 @>>> K(A,n+1)_hpi_0G
endCD







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    The reference I know is the one I gave in my old post, the paper by Blanc, Dwyer and Goerss The realization space of a ∏-algebra.
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:45










  • $begingroup$
    @DenisNardin Thanks! Though I kinda want a reference appropriate for someone who is just now learning what a Postnikov tower is.
    $endgroup$
    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 15:52










  • $begingroup$
    Unfortunately the fact that they had to write the theory themselves makes me suspect that there's no elementary exposition yet.
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 16:12






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    If a group $K$ acts on itself by left translation, then $K_hKapprox *$. In general there's an equivalence of the form $X_h(Krtimes H)approx (X_hK)_hH$.
    $endgroup$
    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 18:31







  • 2




    $begingroup$
    The composite $defAutmathrmAut$ $P_n-1to BAut(K(A,n))to BAut(A)$ factors through a map $P_1to BAut(A)$. Since $P_1approx Bpi_0G$, you can pullback everything along this map. That gives the final square I drew.
    $endgroup$
    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 18:33

















  • $begingroup$
    The reference I know is the one I gave in my old post, the paper by Blanc, Dwyer and Goerss The realization space of a ∏-algebra.
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 15:45










  • $begingroup$
    @DenisNardin Thanks! Though I kinda want a reference appropriate for someone who is just now learning what a Postnikov tower is.
    $endgroup$
    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 15:52










  • $begingroup$
    Unfortunately the fact that they had to write the theory themselves makes me suspect that there's no elementary exposition yet.
    $endgroup$
    – Denis Nardin
    Apr 14 at 16:12






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    If a group $K$ acts on itself by left translation, then $K_hKapprox *$. In general there's an equivalence of the form $X_h(Krtimes H)approx (X_hK)_hH$.
    $endgroup$
    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 18:31







  • 2




    $begingroup$
    The composite $defAutmathrmAut$ $P_n-1to BAut(K(A,n))to BAut(A)$ factors through a map $P_1to BAut(A)$. Since $P_1approx Bpi_0G$, you can pullback everything along this map. That gives the final square I drew.
    $endgroup$
    – Charles Rezk
    Apr 14 at 18:33
















$begingroup$
The reference I know is the one I gave in my old post, the paper by Blanc, Dwyer and Goerss The realization space of a ∏-algebra.
$endgroup$
– Denis Nardin
Apr 14 at 15:45




$begingroup$
The reference I know is the one I gave in my old post, the paper by Blanc, Dwyer and Goerss The realization space of a ∏-algebra.
$endgroup$
– Denis Nardin
Apr 14 at 15:45












$begingroup$
@DenisNardin Thanks! Though I kinda want a reference appropriate for someone who is just now learning what a Postnikov tower is.
$endgroup$
– Charles Rezk
Apr 14 at 15:52




$begingroup$
@DenisNardin Thanks! Though I kinda want a reference appropriate for someone who is just now learning what a Postnikov tower is.
$endgroup$
– Charles Rezk
Apr 14 at 15:52












$begingroup$
Unfortunately the fact that they had to write the theory themselves makes me suspect that there's no elementary exposition yet.
$endgroup$
– Denis Nardin
Apr 14 at 16:12




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Unfortunately the fact that they had to write the theory themselves makes me suspect that there's no elementary exposition yet.
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– Denis Nardin
Apr 14 at 16:12




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If a group $K$ acts on itself by left translation, then $K_hKapprox *$. In general there's an equivalence of the form $X_h(Krtimes H)approx (X_hK)_hH$.
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– Charles Rezk
Apr 14 at 18:31





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If a group $K$ acts on itself by left translation, then $K_hKapprox *$. In general there's an equivalence of the form $X_h(Krtimes H)approx (X_hK)_hH$.
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The composite $defAutmathrmAut$ $P_n-1to BAut(K(A,n))to BAut(A)$ factors through a map $P_1to BAut(A)$. Since $P_1approx Bpi_0G$, you can pullback everything along this map. That gives the final square I drew.
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– Charles Rezk
Apr 14 at 18:33





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The composite $defAutmathrmAut$ $P_n-1to BAut(K(A,n))to BAut(A)$ factors through a map $P_1to BAut(A)$. Since $P_1approx Bpi_0G$, you can pullback everything along this map. That gives the final square I drew.
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