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Do you need to hold concentration on a spell when you cast it with a spell scroll?


Does a weapon with concentration spell enchantment require concentration from the user?If a spell cast from a Spell Scroll is Counterspelled, is the scroll consumed?Does a concentration spell still require concentration when triggered by Contingency?When using a wand to cast a concentration spell, does the user need to make a saving throw to maintain concentration when damaged?How does the Mage Slayer feat interact with a concentration spell being cast?Is it possible to hold a spell cast from a spell scroll by Readying it?Can you Ready a Concentration spell?Can you maintain concentration on a spell if you put the target of that spell in a Bag of Holding?What happens if you end concentration on a spell with a long casting time without your concentration “breaking”?Do you have to make a concentration check to cast the spell from a wand when you are on a plane with the impeded magic trait?






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I'm currently running Out of the Abyss, and my group is about to encounter a mage with a description that says




If the characters become hostile, [the mage] orders
them to depart, lest they provoke the wrath of his
all-powerful master. If attacked, he uses his globe of
invulnerability scroll, casts fly on himself, and flies into
the chasm.




Both spells are concentration spells so I'm not sure if this is an error in the module, if you don't need concentration for scrolls, or if I read the paragraph wrong and he just uses the scroll first, runs away, and then proceeds to cast fly and fly away.



So my question is: Do I need to hold concentration for concentration spells cast with a spell scroll?










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    Simple fix, just make the "casts fly on himself" instead "quaffs a potion of fly"... potions don't require concentration. Doesn't really answer the question, just fixes the disparity in the rules for you as a DM.
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I'm currently running Out of the Abyss, and my group is about to encounter a mage with a description that says




If the characters become hostile, [the mage] orders
them to depart, lest they provoke the wrath of his
all-powerful master. If attacked, he uses his globe of
invulnerability scroll, casts fly on himself, and flies into
the chasm.




Both spells are concentration spells so I'm not sure if this is an error in the module, if you don't need concentration for scrolls, or if I read the paragraph wrong and he just uses the scroll first, runs away, and then proceeds to cast fly and fly away.



So my question is: Do I need to hold concentration for concentration spells cast with a spell scroll?










share|improve this question











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  • 10




    $begingroup$
    This is a mistake the published adventures make a lot.
    $endgroup$
    – Miniman
    Sep 19 at 12:50






  • 12




    $begingroup$
    Simple fix, just make the "casts fly on himself" instead "quaffs a potion of fly"... potions don't require concentration. Doesn't really answer the question, just fixes the disparity in the rules for you as a DM.
    $endgroup$
    – Slagmoth
    Sep 19 at 13:00














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I'm currently running Out of the Abyss, and my group is about to encounter a mage with a description that says




If the characters become hostile, [the mage] orders
them to depart, lest they provoke the wrath of his
all-powerful master. If attacked, he uses his globe of
invulnerability scroll, casts fly on himself, and flies into
the chasm.




Both spells are concentration spells so I'm not sure if this is an error in the module, if you don't need concentration for scrolls, or if I read the paragraph wrong and he just uses the scroll first, runs away, and then proceeds to cast fly and fly away.



So my question is: Do I need to hold concentration for concentration spells cast with a spell scroll?










share|improve this question











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I'm currently running Out of the Abyss, and my group is about to encounter a mage with a description that says




If the characters become hostile, [the mage] orders
them to depart, lest they provoke the wrath of his
all-powerful master. If attacked, he uses his globe of
invulnerability scroll, casts fly on himself, and flies into
the chasm.




Both spells are concentration spells so I'm not sure if this is an error in the module, if you don't need concentration for scrolls, or if I read the paragraph wrong and he just uses the scroll first, runs away, and then proceeds to cast fly and fly away.



So my question is: Do I need to hold concentration for concentration spells cast with a spell scroll?







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  • 10




    $begingroup$
    This is a mistake the published adventures make a lot.
    $endgroup$
    – Miniman
    Sep 19 at 12:50






  • 12




    $begingroup$
    Simple fix, just make the "casts fly on himself" instead "quaffs a potion of fly"... potions don't require concentration. Doesn't really answer the question, just fixes the disparity in the rules for you as a DM.
    $endgroup$
    – Slagmoth
    Sep 19 at 13:00













  • 10




    $begingroup$
    This is a mistake the published adventures make a lot.
    $endgroup$
    – Miniman
    Sep 19 at 12:50






  • 12




    $begingroup$
    Simple fix, just make the "casts fly on himself" instead "quaffs a potion of fly"... potions don't require concentration. Doesn't really answer the question, just fixes the disparity in the rules for you as a DM.
    $endgroup$
    – Slagmoth
    Sep 19 at 13:00








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10




$begingroup$
This is a mistake the published adventures make a lot.
$endgroup$
– Miniman
Sep 19 at 12:50




$begingroup$
This is a mistake the published adventures make a lot.
$endgroup$
– Miniman
Sep 19 at 12:50




12




12




$begingroup$
Simple fix, just make the "casts fly on himself" instead "quaffs a potion of fly"... potions don't require concentration. Doesn't really answer the question, just fixes the disparity in the rules for you as a DM.
$endgroup$
– Slagmoth
Sep 19 at 13:00





$begingroup$
Simple fix, just make the "casts fly on himself" instead "quaffs a potion of fly"... potions don't require concentration. Doesn't really answer the question, just fixes the disparity in the rules for you as a DM.
$endgroup$
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From the general rules on casting spells from magic items, my emphasis added:




Some magic items allow the user to cast a spell from the item. The spell is cast at the lowest possible spell level, doesn't expend any of the user's spell slots, and requires no components, unless the item's description says otherwise. The spell uses its normal casting time, range, and duration, and the user of the item must concentrate if the spell requires concentration. Many items, such as potions, bypass the casting of a spell and confer the spell's effects, with their usual duration. Certain items make exceptions to these rules, changing the casting time, duration, or other parts of a spell.




There's nothing in the description of a spell scroll that makes an exception.



In terms of how that should impact roleplaying the character, I'm not familiar with the adventure but it sounds to me like it is just presenting two main options for getting away and trying to avoid combat, so just keep them in mind as possibilities even though you can't really use both at once.






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    From the general rules on casting spells from magic items, my emphasis added:




    Some magic items allow the user to cast a spell from the item. The spell is cast at the lowest possible spell level, doesn't expend any of the user's spell slots, and requires no components, unless the item's description says otherwise. The spell uses its normal casting time, range, and duration, and the user of the item must concentrate if the spell requires concentration. Many items, such as potions, bypass the casting of a spell and confer the spell's effects, with their usual duration. Certain items make exceptions to these rules, changing the casting time, duration, or other parts of a spell.




    There's nothing in the description of a spell scroll that makes an exception.



    In terms of how that should impact roleplaying the character, I'm not familiar with the adventure but it sounds to me like it is just presenting two main options for getting away and trying to avoid combat, so just keep them in mind as possibilities even though you can't really use both at once.






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      From the general rules on casting spells from magic items, my emphasis added:




      Some magic items allow the user to cast a spell from the item. The spell is cast at the lowest possible spell level, doesn't expend any of the user's spell slots, and requires no components, unless the item's description says otherwise. The spell uses its normal casting time, range, and duration, and the user of the item must concentrate if the spell requires concentration. Many items, such as potions, bypass the casting of a spell and confer the spell's effects, with their usual duration. Certain items make exceptions to these rules, changing the casting time, duration, or other parts of a spell.




      There's nothing in the description of a spell scroll that makes an exception.



      In terms of how that should impact roleplaying the character, I'm not familiar with the adventure but it sounds to me like it is just presenting two main options for getting away and trying to avoid combat, so just keep them in mind as possibilities even though you can't really use both at once.






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        From the general rules on casting spells from magic items, my emphasis added:




        Some magic items allow the user to cast a spell from the item. The spell is cast at the lowest possible spell level, doesn't expend any of the user's spell slots, and requires no components, unless the item's description says otherwise. The spell uses its normal casting time, range, and duration, and the user of the item must concentrate if the spell requires concentration. Many items, such as potions, bypass the casting of a spell and confer the spell's effects, with their usual duration. Certain items make exceptions to these rules, changing the casting time, duration, or other parts of a spell.




        There's nothing in the description of a spell scroll that makes an exception.



        In terms of how that should impact roleplaying the character, I'm not familiar with the adventure but it sounds to me like it is just presenting two main options for getting away and trying to avoid combat, so just keep them in mind as possibilities even though you can't really use both at once.






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        From the general rules on casting spells from magic items, my emphasis added:




        Some magic items allow the user to cast a spell from the item. The spell is cast at the lowest possible spell level, doesn't expend any of the user's spell slots, and requires no components, unless the item's description says otherwise. The spell uses its normal casting time, range, and duration, and the user of the item must concentrate if the spell requires concentration. Many items, such as potions, bypass the casting of a spell and confer the spell's effects, with their usual duration. Certain items make exceptions to these rules, changing the casting time, duration, or other parts of a spell.




        There's nothing in the description of a spell scroll that makes an exception.



        In terms of how that should impact roleplaying the character, I'm not familiar with the adventure but it sounds to me like it is just presenting two main options for getting away and trying to avoid combat, so just keep them in mind as possibilities even though you can't really use both at once.







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