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Understanding Cursive /Joined Writing in Irish Register Death


How to find death record from late 19th century New York (State)?What records might be created in England when people are re-interred?How to find out where someone died in 1952 United States?How to read Swiss Church Book / Kirchenbücher Collection Indexes?Reading Irish birthplace on 1851 Wales Census?Strategy to find death of individual with common name?Deciphering 1868 Irish marriage record?Deciphering Irish Locations & Names (1873 Marriage License)What is written over some of these Irish birth records?Understanding Irish marriage certificate register abbreviations?






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I hope I am not out of order asking a question re writing again but rethinking my effort on last query has resulted in me finding the record I need. I am attaching another example of writing that I am struggling with.



Under Column 9 residence of informant the first name is hard to deciper?



X???X - Gibson, son, present at death, 27 williamstown.



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    I hope I am not out of order asking a question re writing again but rethinking my effort on last query has resulted in me finding the record I need. I am attaching another example of writing that I am struggling with.



    Under Column 9 residence of informant the first name is hard to deciper?



    X???X - Gibson, son, present at death, 27 williamstown.



    Any insights would be great enter image description here










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      I hope I am not out of order asking a question re writing again but rethinking my effort on last query has resulted in me finding the record I need. I am attaching another example of writing that I am struggling with.



      Under Column 9 residence of informant the first name is hard to deciper?



      X???X - Gibson, son, present at death, 27 williamstown.



      Any insights would be great enter image description here










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      I hope I am not out of order asking a question re writing again but rethinking my effort on last query has resulted in me finding the record I need. I am attaching another example of writing that I am struggling with.



      Under Column 9 residence of informant the first name is hard to deciper?



      X???X - Gibson, son, present at death, 27 williamstown.



      Any insights would be great enter image description here







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          The name is Robert Gibson.



          If there is a name I cannot read – which happens fairly often – then I will turn to what I can read first, and see if that helps to track it down. In this case, given this is an 1899 death certificate, the 1901 Irish census seems a good starting place.



          We know his address is 27 Williamstown. So Blackrock area of Dublin. By searching this area I came across:



          Robert Gibson, age 34, living in Blackrock, house number 27
          http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Blackrock/Rock_Road__Part_of_/1313175/



          You can view the relevant images there to determine whether this is the correct man, but pieces seem to fit. Sometimes to read old documents you need to reverse-engineer until you can work out the original text, which then often becomes obvious. A word of caution, however, to make sure you are not just seeing what you want to see.






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            Just a comment to reiterate that Robert Gibson, son, is the informant. The decedent's name is cut off from this image, but he was a 68-year-old widower, brick layer, cause of death "Bronchitis / 3 Months / Certified." The location of Blackrock, Rathdown is confirmed in the first two lines of the image, and the third line does say Dublin.

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          The name appears to be "Robert". The initial capital is odd, but mainly because of the emphasized beginning loop. That is not a dash before "Gibson", it was intended to be the cross stroke for the "t" at the end of "Robert".






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            The name is Robert Gibson.



            If there is a name I cannot read – which happens fairly often – then I will turn to what I can read first, and see if that helps to track it down. In this case, given this is an 1899 death certificate, the 1901 Irish census seems a good starting place.



            We know his address is 27 Williamstown. So Blackrock area of Dublin. By searching this area I came across:



            Robert Gibson, age 34, living in Blackrock, house number 27
            http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Blackrock/Rock_Road__Part_of_/1313175/



            You can view the relevant images there to determine whether this is the correct man, but pieces seem to fit. Sometimes to read old documents you need to reverse-engineer until you can work out the original text, which then often becomes obvious. A word of caution, however, to make sure you are not just seeing what you want to see.






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              Just a comment to reiterate that Robert Gibson, son, is the informant. The decedent's name is cut off from this image, but he was a 68-year-old widower, brick layer, cause of death "Bronchitis / 3 Months / Certified." The location of Blackrock, Rathdown is confirmed in the first two lines of the image, and the third line does say Dublin.

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            The name is Robert Gibson.



            If there is a name I cannot read – which happens fairly often – then I will turn to what I can read first, and see if that helps to track it down. In this case, given this is an 1899 death certificate, the 1901 Irish census seems a good starting place.



            We know his address is 27 Williamstown. So Blackrock area of Dublin. By searching this area I came across:



            Robert Gibson, age 34, living in Blackrock, house number 27
            http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Blackrock/Rock_Road__Part_of_/1313175/



            You can view the relevant images there to determine whether this is the correct man, but pieces seem to fit. Sometimes to read old documents you need to reverse-engineer until you can work out the original text, which then often becomes obvious. A word of caution, however, to make sure you are not just seeing what you want to see.






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              Just a comment to reiterate that Robert Gibson, son, is the informant. The decedent's name is cut off from this image, but he was a 68-year-old widower, brick layer, cause of death "Bronchitis / 3 Months / Certified." The location of Blackrock, Rathdown is confirmed in the first two lines of the image, and the third line does say Dublin.

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            The name is Robert Gibson.



            If there is a name I cannot read – which happens fairly often – then I will turn to what I can read first, and see if that helps to track it down. In this case, given this is an 1899 death certificate, the 1901 Irish census seems a good starting place.



            We know his address is 27 Williamstown. So Blackrock area of Dublin. By searching this area I came across:



            Robert Gibson, age 34, living in Blackrock, house number 27
            http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Blackrock/Rock_Road__Part_of_/1313175/



            You can view the relevant images there to determine whether this is the correct man, but pieces seem to fit. Sometimes to read old documents you need to reverse-engineer until you can work out the original text, which then often becomes obvious. A word of caution, however, to make sure you are not just seeing what you want to see.






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            The name is Robert Gibson.



            If there is a name I cannot read – which happens fairly often – then I will turn to what I can read first, and see if that helps to track it down. In this case, given this is an 1899 death certificate, the 1901 Irish census seems a good starting place.



            We know his address is 27 Williamstown. So Blackrock area of Dublin. By searching this area I came across:



            Robert Gibson, age 34, living in Blackrock, house number 27
            http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Blackrock/Rock_Road__Part_of_/1313175/



            You can view the relevant images there to determine whether this is the correct man, but pieces seem to fit. Sometimes to read old documents you need to reverse-engineer until you can work out the original text, which then often becomes obvious. A word of caution, however, to make sure you are not just seeing what you want to see.







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              Just a comment to reiterate that Robert Gibson, son, is the informant. The decedent's name is cut off from this image, but he was a 68-year-old widower, brick layer, cause of death "Bronchitis / 3 Months / Certified." The location of Blackrock, Rathdown is confirmed in the first two lines of the image, and the third line does say Dublin.

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              Just a comment to reiterate that Robert Gibson, son, is the informant. The decedent's name is cut off from this image, but he was a 68-year-old widower, brick layer, cause of death "Bronchitis / 3 Months / Certified." The location of Blackrock, Rathdown is confirmed in the first two lines of the image, and the third line does say Dublin.

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            Just a comment to reiterate that Robert Gibson, son, is the informant. The decedent's name is cut off from this image, but he was a 68-year-old widower, brick layer, cause of death "Bronchitis / 3 Months / Certified." The location of Blackrock, Rathdown is confirmed in the first two lines of the image, and the third line does say Dublin.

            – shoover
            Sep 11 at 22:25





            Just a comment to reiterate that Robert Gibson, son, is the informant. The decedent's name is cut off from this image, but he was a 68-year-old widower, brick layer, cause of death "Bronchitis / 3 Months / Certified." The location of Blackrock, Rathdown is confirmed in the first two lines of the image, and the third line does say Dublin.

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            The name appears to be "Robert". The initial capital is odd, but mainly because of the emphasized beginning loop. That is not a dash before "Gibson", it was intended to be the cross stroke for the "t" at the end of "Robert".






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              The name appears to be "Robert". The initial capital is odd, but mainly because of the emphasized beginning loop. That is not a dash before "Gibson", it was intended to be the cross stroke for the "t" at the end of "Robert".






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                The name appears to be "Robert". The initial capital is odd, but mainly because of the emphasized beginning loop. That is not a dash before "Gibson", it was intended to be the cross stroke for the "t" at the end of "Robert".






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                The name appears to be "Robert". The initial capital is odd, but mainly because of the emphasized beginning loop. That is not a dash before "Gibson", it was intended to be the cross stroke for the "t" at the end of "Robert".







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