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Installing Ubuntu without Grub 'ubiquity --no -bootloader'


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First off, no Windows is involved, and no, it's not UEFI.

I have 6 different flavors of Linux running on this old laptop, one of those distros is the only one I trust to manage the bootloader, I don't need a new bootloader I'll go in an add Ubuntu manually after install.



Calamares is an awesome installer that gives you the choice to not install a bootloader, that appears to be absent in the Ubuntu installer, I looked everywhere, but I couldn't find it. Surely you can install Ubuntu without a bootloader. No, I'm not going to back up the MBR and reinstall it etc.



So my questions are:



  1. Is there a proper linux way to start the installer with a command line that does this?

  2. Or, until a fix is available, should I just install the darn thing in the Ubuntu partition?









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    Lubuntu uses Calamares (after 18.04 anyway), and uses more than just ubiquity & calamares too. Ubuntu allows the use of lilo as a boot-loader, and yes installing without grub; though which release/ISO/version you are using does influence what options are available and how presented. You haven't said which release, which version (server, desktop, alternate ...) etc. help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/ch05s01.html (I've assumed amd64)

    – guiverc
    Sep 1 at 23:14







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    @guiverc Would you be willing to post that (or something like it) as an answer?

    – Eliah Kagan
    Sep 2 at 2:31











  • See: askubuntu.com/questions/838450/… you can install without grub with just sudo ubiquity -b from live installer in live mode.

    – oldfred
    Sep 2 at 3:35











  • That's helpful. Yes its amd64, installing the plain 19.04 desktop. That link does have some suggestions such as installing the bootloader in a different location I think I'll try putting it on the same partition as Ubuntu, that will be handy if I have to cut and paste grub configs for booting Ubuntu into the other grub.cfg. If that doesn't work I'll try Lubuntu.

    – Garrett
    Sep 2 at 3:41











  • code ubiquity --no-bootloader Worked. No bootloader pull down menu was offered, and it didn't install a bootloader anywhere. Posting this from the new install now.

    – Garrett
    Sep 2 at 11:39

















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First off, no Windows is involved, and no, it's not UEFI.

I have 6 different flavors of Linux running on this old laptop, one of those distros is the only one I trust to manage the bootloader, I don't need a new bootloader I'll go in an add Ubuntu manually after install.



Calamares is an awesome installer that gives you the choice to not install a bootloader, that appears to be absent in the Ubuntu installer, I looked everywhere, but I couldn't find it. Surely you can install Ubuntu without a bootloader. No, I'm not going to back up the MBR and reinstall it etc.



So my questions are:



  1. Is there a proper linux way to start the installer with a command line that does this?

  2. Or, until a fix is available, should I just install the darn thing in the Ubuntu partition?









share|improve this question






















  • 2





    Lubuntu uses Calamares (after 18.04 anyway), and uses more than just ubiquity & calamares too. Ubuntu allows the use of lilo as a boot-loader, and yes installing without grub; though which release/ISO/version you are using does influence what options are available and how presented. You haven't said which release, which version (server, desktop, alternate ...) etc. help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/ch05s01.html (I've assumed amd64)

    – guiverc
    Sep 1 at 23:14







  • 1





    @guiverc Would you be willing to post that (or something like it) as an answer?

    – Eliah Kagan
    Sep 2 at 2:31











  • See: askubuntu.com/questions/838450/… you can install without grub with just sudo ubiquity -b from live installer in live mode.

    – oldfred
    Sep 2 at 3:35











  • That's helpful. Yes its amd64, installing the plain 19.04 desktop. That link does have some suggestions such as installing the bootloader in a different location I think I'll try putting it on the same partition as Ubuntu, that will be handy if I have to cut and paste grub configs for booting Ubuntu into the other grub.cfg. If that doesn't work I'll try Lubuntu.

    – Garrett
    Sep 2 at 3:41











  • code ubiquity --no-bootloader Worked. No bootloader pull down menu was offered, and it didn't install a bootloader anywhere. Posting this from the new install now.

    – Garrett
    Sep 2 at 11:39













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First off, no Windows is involved, and no, it's not UEFI.

I have 6 different flavors of Linux running on this old laptop, one of those distros is the only one I trust to manage the bootloader, I don't need a new bootloader I'll go in an add Ubuntu manually after install.



Calamares is an awesome installer that gives you the choice to not install a bootloader, that appears to be absent in the Ubuntu installer, I looked everywhere, but I couldn't find it. Surely you can install Ubuntu without a bootloader. No, I'm not going to back up the MBR and reinstall it etc.



So my questions are:



  1. Is there a proper linux way to start the installer with a command line that does this?

  2. Or, until a fix is available, should I just install the darn thing in the Ubuntu partition?









share|improve this question
















First off, no Windows is involved, and no, it's not UEFI.

I have 6 different flavors of Linux running on this old laptop, one of those distros is the only one I trust to manage the bootloader, I don't need a new bootloader I'll go in an add Ubuntu manually after install.



Calamares is an awesome installer that gives you the choice to not install a bootloader, that appears to be absent in the Ubuntu installer, I looked everywhere, but I couldn't find it. Surely you can install Ubuntu without a bootloader. No, I'm not going to back up the MBR and reinstall it etc.



So my questions are:



  1. Is there a proper linux way to start the installer with a command line that does this?

  2. Or, until a fix is available, should I just install the darn thing in the Ubuntu partition?






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    Lubuntu uses Calamares (after 18.04 anyway), and uses more than just ubiquity & calamares too. Ubuntu allows the use of lilo as a boot-loader, and yes installing without grub; though which release/ISO/version you are using does influence what options are available and how presented. You haven't said which release, which version (server, desktop, alternate ...) etc. help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/ch05s01.html (I've assumed amd64)

    – guiverc
    Sep 1 at 23:14







  • 1





    @guiverc Would you be willing to post that (or something like it) as an answer?

    – Eliah Kagan
    Sep 2 at 2:31











  • See: askubuntu.com/questions/838450/… you can install without grub with just sudo ubiquity -b from live installer in live mode.

    – oldfred
    Sep 2 at 3:35











  • That's helpful. Yes its amd64, installing the plain 19.04 desktop. That link does have some suggestions such as installing the bootloader in a different location I think I'll try putting it on the same partition as Ubuntu, that will be handy if I have to cut and paste grub configs for booting Ubuntu into the other grub.cfg. If that doesn't work I'll try Lubuntu.

    – Garrett
    Sep 2 at 3:41











  • code ubiquity --no-bootloader Worked. No bootloader pull down menu was offered, and it didn't install a bootloader anywhere. Posting this from the new install now.

    – Garrett
    Sep 2 at 11:39












  • 2





    Lubuntu uses Calamares (after 18.04 anyway), and uses more than just ubiquity & calamares too. Ubuntu allows the use of lilo as a boot-loader, and yes installing without grub; though which release/ISO/version you are using does influence what options are available and how presented. You haven't said which release, which version (server, desktop, alternate ...) etc. help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/ch05s01.html (I've assumed amd64)

    – guiverc
    Sep 1 at 23:14







  • 1





    @guiverc Would you be willing to post that (or something like it) as an answer?

    – Eliah Kagan
    Sep 2 at 2:31











  • See: askubuntu.com/questions/838450/… you can install without grub with just sudo ubiquity -b from live installer in live mode.

    – oldfred
    Sep 2 at 3:35











  • That's helpful. Yes its amd64, installing the plain 19.04 desktop. That link does have some suggestions such as installing the bootloader in a different location I think I'll try putting it on the same partition as Ubuntu, that will be handy if I have to cut and paste grub configs for booting Ubuntu into the other grub.cfg. If that doesn't work I'll try Lubuntu.

    – Garrett
    Sep 2 at 3:41











  • code ubiquity --no-bootloader Worked. No bootloader pull down menu was offered, and it didn't install a bootloader anywhere. Posting this from the new install now.

    – Garrett
    Sep 2 at 11:39







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2





Lubuntu uses Calamares (after 18.04 anyway), and uses more than just ubiquity & calamares too. Ubuntu allows the use of lilo as a boot-loader, and yes installing without grub; though which release/ISO/version you are using does influence what options are available and how presented. You haven't said which release, which version (server, desktop, alternate ...) etc. help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/ch05s01.html (I've assumed amd64)

– guiverc
Sep 1 at 23:14






Lubuntu uses Calamares (after 18.04 anyway), and uses more than just ubiquity & calamares too. Ubuntu allows the use of lilo as a boot-loader, and yes installing without grub; though which release/ISO/version you are using does influence what options are available and how presented. You haven't said which release, which version (server, desktop, alternate ...) etc. help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/ch05s01.html (I've assumed amd64)

– guiverc
Sep 1 at 23:14





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@guiverc Would you be willing to post that (or something like it) as an answer?

– Eliah Kagan
Sep 2 at 2:31





@guiverc Would you be willing to post that (or something like it) as an answer?

– Eliah Kagan
Sep 2 at 2:31













See: askubuntu.com/questions/838450/… you can install without grub with just sudo ubiquity -b from live installer in live mode.

– oldfred
Sep 2 at 3:35





See: askubuntu.com/questions/838450/… you can install without grub with just sudo ubiquity -b from live installer in live mode.

– oldfred
Sep 2 at 3:35













That's helpful. Yes its amd64, installing the plain 19.04 desktop. That link does have some suggestions such as installing the bootloader in a different location I think I'll try putting it on the same partition as Ubuntu, that will be handy if I have to cut and paste grub configs for booting Ubuntu into the other grub.cfg. If that doesn't work I'll try Lubuntu.

– Garrett
Sep 2 at 3:41





That's helpful. Yes its amd64, installing the plain 19.04 desktop. That link does have some suggestions such as installing the bootloader in a different location I think I'll try putting it on the same partition as Ubuntu, that will be handy if I have to cut and paste grub configs for booting Ubuntu into the other grub.cfg. If that doesn't work I'll try Lubuntu.

– Garrett
Sep 2 at 3:41













code ubiquity --no-bootloader Worked. No bootloader pull down menu was offered, and it didn't install a bootloader anywhere. Posting this from the new install now.

– Garrett
Sep 2 at 11:39





code ubiquity --no-bootloader Worked. No bootloader pull down menu was offered, and it didn't install a bootloader anywhere. Posting this from the new install now.

– Garrett
Sep 2 at 11:39










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Ubuntu is available in many forms (including flavors), and does include ISOs that use as the main installer



  • Ubiquity

  • Calamares

  • Subiquity

and more (eg. netboot), but which release you are using, plus ISO you download will dictate which installer is included. Most common is Ubiquity, however as you mention Calamares; it's used by Lubuntu since 18.10. You didn't specify a release or ISO tried.



Ubuntu can also install



  • using grub

  • using lilo

  • without boot loader

but your architecture also influences the best option for you. You specified neither release nor architecture, so I'll assume amd64 & provide a link to one of the installation guides (there are many such guides to, suited for different needs)



https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/






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    Ubuntu is available in many forms (including flavors), and does include ISOs that use as the main installer



    • Ubiquity

    • Calamares

    • Subiquity

    and more (eg. netboot), but which release you are using, plus ISO you download will dictate which installer is included. Most common is Ubiquity, however as you mention Calamares; it's used by Lubuntu since 18.10. You didn't specify a release or ISO tried.



    Ubuntu can also install



    • using grub

    • using lilo

    • without boot loader

    but your architecture also influences the best option for you. You specified neither release nor architecture, so I'll assume amd64 & provide a link to one of the installation guides (there are many such guides to, suited for different needs)



    https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/






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      Ubuntu is available in many forms (including flavors), and does include ISOs that use as the main installer



      • Ubiquity

      • Calamares

      • Subiquity

      and more (eg. netboot), but which release you are using, plus ISO you download will dictate which installer is included. Most common is Ubiquity, however as you mention Calamares; it's used by Lubuntu since 18.10. You didn't specify a release or ISO tried.



      Ubuntu can also install



      • using grub

      • using lilo

      • without boot loader

      but your architecture also influences the best option for you. You specified neither release nor architecture, so I'll assume amd64 & provide a link to one of the installation guides (there are many such guides to, suited for different needs)



      https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/






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        Ubuntu is available in many forms (including flavors), and does include ISOs that use as the main installer



        • Ubiquity

        • Calamares

        • Subiquity

        and more (eg. netboot), but which release you are using, plus ISO you download will dictate which installer is included. Most common is Ubiquity, however as you mention Calamares; it's used by Lubuntu since 18.10. You didn't specify a release or ISO tried.



        Ubuntu can also install



        • using grub

        • using lilo

        • without boot loader

        but your architecture also influences the best option for you. You specified neither release nor architecture, so I'll assume amd64 & provide a link to one of the installation guides (there are many such guides to, suited for different needs)



        https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/






        share|improve this answer














        Ubuntu is available in many forms (including flavors), and does include ISOs that use as the main installer



        • Ubiquity

        • Calamares

        • Subiquity

        and more (eg. netboot), but which release you are using, plus ISO you download will dictate which installer is included. Most common is Ubiquity, however as you mention Calamares; it's used by Lubuntu since 18.10. You didn't specify a release or ISO tried.



        Ubuntu can also install



        • using grub

        • using lilo

        • without boot loader

        but your architecture also influences the best option for you. You specified neither release nor architecture, so I'll assume amd64 & provide a link to one of the installation guides (there are many such guides to, suited for different needs)



        https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/







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