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How can I solve for the intersection points of two ellipses?
How to solve for the intersection points of two ellipses?Equation for the line of intersection between two planesFinding intersection points of two surfaces (lists)Finding intersection of two ellipsesInserting cones at intersection points two curvesCreating a MeshRegion object from a Graphics objectThe intersection of two “mesh surfaces from points”How can I find the intersection of two sets and how can I sample elements from this intersection?Intersection of two functions
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I need to find the points at which the two ellipses implicitly defined by
$qquad y^2=4-4,x^2 quad[E1]$
and
$qquad (1-(x/2))^2+(y-1)^2=1 quad[E2]$
intersect.
So I isolated $y$ in E2 and then squared it so that I could eliminate it using E1 and then solve for $x$. This turned to be very gnarly.
Is there an easier way of finding the intersection points of E1 and E2?
(as shown here in graph)
ContourPlot[
(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5,
Frame -> False, Axes -> True]
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I need to find the points at which the two ellipses implicitly defined by
$qquad y^2=4-4,x^2 quad[E1]$
and
$qquad (1-(x/2))^2+(y-1)^2=1 quad[E2]$
intersect.
So I isolated $y$ in E2 and then squared it so that I could eliminate it using E1 and then solve for $x$. This turned to be very gnarly.
Is there an easier way of finding the intersection points of E1 and E2?
(as shown here in graph)
ContourPlot[
(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5,
Frame -> False, Axes -> True]
equation-solving calculus-and-analysis intersection
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I need to find the points at which the two ellipses implicitly defined by
$qquad y^2=4-4,x^2 quad[E1]$
and
$qquad (1-(x/2))^2+(y-1)^2=1 quad[E2]$
intersect.
So I isolated $y$ in E2 and then squared it so that I could eliminate it using E1 and then solve for $x$. This turned to be very gnarly.
Is there an easier way of finding the intersection points of E1 and E2?
(as shown here in graph)
ContourPlot[
(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5,
Frame -> False, Axes -> True]
equation-solving calculus-and-analysis intersection
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I need to find the points at which the two ellipses implicitly defined by
$qquad y^2=4-4,x^2 quad[E1]$
and
$qquad (1-(x/2))^2+(y-1)^2=1 quad[E2]$
intersect.
So I isolated $y$ in E2 and then squared it so that I could eliminate it using E1 and then solve for $x$. This turned to be very gnarly.
Is there an easier way of finding the intersection points of E1 and E2?
(as shown here in graph)
ContourPlot[
(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5,
Frame -> False, Axes -> True]
equation-solving calculus-and-analysis intersection
equation-solving calculus-and-analysis intersection
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Solve can be used directly
pts = x, y /.
Solve[y^2 == 4 - 4 x^2, (1 - (x/2))^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1, x, y,
Reals] // FullSimplify
(* Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 1,
0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
225*#1^4 & , 2, 0],
Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 2,
0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
225*#1^4 & , 1, 0] *)
Converting the Root objects to their numeric values
pts // N
(* 0.539936, 1.68341, 0.997732, 0.13463 *)
Show[
ContourPlot[
(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2),
((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1),
x, -1.5, 4.5, y, -3, 3,
Frame -> False,
Axes -> True],
Graphics[Red, AbsolutePointSize[4], Point[pts]]]

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Thank you, @BobHanlon
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Aug 11 at 0:19
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You can (1) use Cases to extract the Lines from ContourPlot output, and (2) use RegionIntersection to find the intersections:
cp = ContourPlot[(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 ==
1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5, Frame -> False, Axes -> True];
intersections = RegionIntersection @@ Cases[Normal @ cp, _Line, All]
Point[0.992916, 0.140285, 0.539984, 1.68261]
Show[cp, Epilog->Red, PointSize[Large], intersections]

Show[cp, ListPlot[Callout[#, ##, Automatic,
LabelStyle -> 13, Appearance -> "Frame", LeaderSize -> 30, CalloutStyle -> Red,
CalloutMarker -> "BoxPoint"] & /@ intersections[[1]]],
PlotRange -> -3, 4, -3, 3]

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Thank you for your help, @kglr
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– wendy
Aug 11 at 0:19
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Clearly the easy way is to get a computer program to solve it for you.
If for some reason you want to do it by hand, you could do this:
$(1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1$
$(y - 1)^2 == 1-(1 - x/2)^2 == x - x^2/4 $
$y^2 - (y - 1)^2 == 4-4x^2 - (x - x^2/4 )$
$y^2 - (y^2 -2y+ 1) == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4 $
$ 2y-1 == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4)$
$ y == frac5-4x^2 - x + x^2/42)$
And now it's practically a straight binomial.
But I notice this is for Mathematica, and you didn't show why you had a problem using Mathematica. It looked like you were doing stuff by hand.
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Hi, @JThomas , thanks for your help! The problem was that as I have not used Mathematica for long, I wasn't sure as to how to solve the equation using Mathematica.
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$begingroup$
Solve can be used directly
pts = x, y /.
Solve[y^2 == 4 - 4 x^2, (1 - (x/2))^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1, x, y,
Reals] // FullSimplify
(* Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 1,
0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
225*#1^4 & , 2, 0],
Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 2,
0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
225*#1^4 & , 1, 0] *)
Converting the Root objects to their numeric values
pts // N
(* 0.539936, 1.68341, 0.997732, 0.13463 *)
Show[
ContourPlot[
(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2),
((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1),
x, -1.5, 4.5, y, -3, 3,
Frame -> False,
Axes -> True],
Graphics[Red, AbsolutePointSize[4], Point[pts]]]

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Thank you, @BobHanlon
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– wendy
Aug 11 at 0:19
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$begingroup$
Solve can be used directly
pts = x, y /.
Solve[y^2 == 4 - 4 x^2, (1 - (x/2))^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1, x, y,
Reals] // FullSimplify
(* Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 1,
0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
225*#1^4 & , 2, 0],
Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 2,
0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
225*#1^4 & , 1, 0] *)
Converting the Root objects to their numeric values
pts // N
(* 0.539936, 1.68341, 0.997732, 0.13463 *)
Show[
ContourPlot[
(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2),
((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1),
x, -1.5, 4.5, y, -3, 3,
Frame -> False,
Axes -> True],
Graphics[Red, AbsolutePointSize[4], Point[pts]]]

$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Thank you, @BobHanlon
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– wendy
Aug 11 at 0:19
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$begingroup$
Solve can be used directly
pts = x, y /.
Solve[y^2 == 4 - 4 x^2, (1 - (x/2))^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1, x, y,
Reals] // FullSimplify
(* Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 1,
0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
225*#1^4 & , 2, 0],
Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 2,
0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
225*#1^4 & , 1, 0] *)
Converting the Root objects to their numeric values
pts // N
(* 0.539936, 1.68341, 0.997732, 0.13463 *)
Show[
ContourPlot[
(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2),
((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1),
x, -1.5, 4.5, y, -3, 3,
Frame -> False,
Axes -> True],
Graphics[Red, AbsolutePointSize[4], Point[pts]]]

$endgroup$
Solve can be used directly
pts = x, y /.
Solve[y^2 == 4 - 4 x^2, (1 - (x/2))^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1, x, y,
Reals] // FullSimplify
(* Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 1,
0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
225*#1^4 & , 2, 0],
Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 2,
0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
225*#1^4 & , 1, 0] *)
Converting the Root objects to their numeric values
pts // N
(* 0.539936, 1.68341, 0.997732, 0.13463 *)
Show[
ContourPlot[
(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2),
((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1),
x, -1.5, 4.5, y, -3, 3,
Frame -> False,
Axes -> True],
Graphics[Red, AbsolutePointSize[4], Point[pts]]]

answered Aug 10 at 23:58
Bob HanlonBob Hanlon
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Thank you, @BobHanlon
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Thank you, @BobHanlon
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Aug 11 at 0:19
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Thank you, @BobHanlon
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– wendy
Aug 11 at 0:19
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Thank you, @BobHanlon
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Aug 11 at 0:19
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You can (1) use Cases to extract the Lines from ContourPlot output, and (2) use RegionIntersection to find the intersections:
cp = ContourPlot[(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 ==
1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5, Frame -> False, Axes -> True];
intersections = RegionIntersection @@ Cases[Normal @ cp, _Line, All]
Point[0.992916, 0.140285, 0.539984, 1.68261]
Show[cp, Epilog->Red, PointSize[Large], intersections]

Show[cp, ListPlot[Callout[#, ##, Automatic,
LabelStyle -> 13, Appearance -> "Frame", LeaderSize -> 30, CalloutStyle -> Red,
CalloutMarker -> "BoxPoint"] & /@ intersections[[1]]],
PlotRange -> -3, 4, -3, 3]

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Thank you for your help, @kglr
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– wendy
Aug 11 at 0:19
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You can (1) use Cases to extract the Lines from ContourPlot output, and (2) use RegionIntersection to find the intersections:
cp = ContourPlot[(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 ==
1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5, Frame -> False, Axes -> True];
intersections = RegionIntersection @@ Cases[Normal @ cp, _Line, All]
Point[0.992916, 0.140285, 0.539984, 1.68261]
Show[cp, Epilog->Red, PointSize[Large], intersections]

Show[cp, ListPlot[Callout[#, ##, Automatic,
LabelStyle -> 13, Appearance -> "Frame", LeaderSize -> 30, CalloutStyle -> Red,
CalloutMarker -> "BoxPoint"] & /@ intersections[[1]]],
PlotRange -> -3, 4, -3, 3]

$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Thank you for your help, @kglr
$endgroup$
– wendy
Aug 11 at 0:19
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$begingroup$
You can (1) use Cases to extract the Lines from ContourPlot output, and (2) use RegionIntersection to find the intersections:
cp = ContourPlot[(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 ==
1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5, Frame -> False, Axes -> True];
intersections = RegionIntersection @@ Cases[Normal @ cp, _Line, All]
Point[0.992916, 0.140285, 0.539984, 1.68261]
Show[cp, Epilog->Red, PointSize[Large], intersections]

Show[cp, ListPlot[Callout[#, ##, Automatic,
LabelStyle -> 13, Appearance -> "Frame", LeaderSize -> 30, CalloutStyle -> Red,
CalloutMarker -> "BoxPoint"] & /@ intersections[[1]]],
PlotRange -> -3, 4, -3, 3]

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You can (1) use Cases to extract the Lines from ContourPlot output, and (2) use RegionIntersection to find the intersections:
cp = ContourPlot[(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 ==
1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5, Frame -> False, Axes -> True];
intersections = RegionIntersection @@ Cases[Normal @ cp, _Line, All]
Point[0.992916, 0.140285, 0.539984, 1.68261]
Show[cp, Epilog->Red, PointSize[Large], intersections]

Show[cp, ListPlot[Callout[#, ##, Automatic,
LabelStyle -> 13, Appearance -> "Frame", LeaderSize -> 30, CalloutStyle -> Red,
CalloutMarker -> "BoxPoint"] & /@ intersections[[1]]],
PlotRange -> -3, 4, -3, 3]

edited Aug 11 at 17:41
answered Aug 10 at 23:59
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Thank you for your help, @kglr
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Thank you for your help, @kglr
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Aug 11 at 0:19
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Thank you for your help, @kglr
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Clearly the easy way is to get a computer program to solve it for you.
If for some reason you want to do it by hand, you could do this:
$(1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1$
$(y - 1)^2 == 1-(1 - x/2)^2 == x - x^2/4 $
$y^2 - (y - 1)^2 == 4-4x^2 - (x - x^2/4 )$
$y^2 - (y^2 -2y+ 1) == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4 $
$ 2y-1 == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4)$
$ y == frac5-4x^2 - x + x^2/42)$
And now it's practically a straight binomial.
But I notice this is for Mathematica, and you didn't show why you had a problem using Mathematica. It looked like you were doing stuff by hand.
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Hi, @JThomas , thanks for your help! The problem was that as I have not used Mathematica for long, I wasn't sure as to how to solve the equation using Mathematica.
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– wendy
Aug 12 at 8:59
add a comment
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$begingroup$
Clearly the easy way is to get a computer program to solve it for you.
If for some reason you want to do it by hand, you could do this:
$(1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1$
$(y - 1)^2 == 1-(1 - x/2)^2 == x - x^2/4 $
$y^2 - (y - 1)^2 == 4-4x^2 - (x - x^2/4 )$
$y^2 - (y^2 -2y+ 1) == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4 $
$ 2y-1 == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4)$
$ y == frac5-4x^2 - x + x^2/42)$
And now it's practically a straight binomial.
But I notice this is for Mathematica, and you didn't show why you had a problem using Mathematica. It looked like you were doing stuff by hand.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Hi, @JThomas , thanks for your help! The problem was that as I have not used Mathematica for long, I wasn't sure as to how to solve the equation using Mathematica.
$endgroup$
– wendy
Aug 12 at 8:59
add a comment
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$begingroup$
Clearly the easy way is to get a computer program to solve it for you.
If for some reason you want to do it by hand, you could do this:
$(1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1$
$(y - 1)^2 == 1-(1 - x/2)^2 == x - x^2/4 $
$y^2 - (y - 1)^2 == 4-4x^2 - (x - x^2/4 )$
$y^2 - (y^2 -2y+ 1) == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4 $
$ 2y-1 == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4)$
$ y == frac5-4x^2 - x + x^2/42)$
And now it's practically a straight binomial.
But I notice this is for Mathematica, and you didn't show why you had a problem using Mathematica. It looked like you were doing stuff by hand.
$endgroup$
Clearly the easy way is to get a computer program to solve it for you.
If for some reason you want to do it by hand, you could do this:
$(1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1$
$(y - 1)^2 == 1-(1 - x/2)^2 == x - x^2/4 $
$y^2 - (y - 1)^2 == 4-4x^2 - (x - x^2/4 )$
$y^2 - (y^2 -2y+ 1) == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4 $
$ 2y-1 == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4)$
$ y == frac5-4x^2 - x + x^2/42)$
And now it's practically a straight binomial.
But I notice this is for Mathematica, and you didn't show why you had a problem using Mathematica. It looked like you were doing stuff by hand.
edited Aug 11 at 23:13
answered Aug 11 at 15:40
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Hi, @JThomas , thanks for your help! The problem was that as I have not used Mathematica for long, I wasn't sure as to how to solve the equation using Mathematica.
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Hi, @JThomas , thanks for your help! The problem was that as I have not used Mathematica for long, I wasn't sure as to how to solve the equation using Mathematica.
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Hi, @JThomas , thanks for your help! The problem was that as I have not used Mathematica for long, I wasn't sure as to how to solve the equation using Mathematica.
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Hi, @JThomas , thanks for your help! The problem was that as I have not used Mathematica for long, I wasn't sure as to how to solve the equation using Mathematica.
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