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How can I solve for the intersection points of two ellipses?


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I need to find the points at which the two ellipses implicitly defined by



$qquad y^2=4-4,x^2 quad[E1]$



and



$qquad (1-(x/2))^2+(y-1)^2=1 quad[E2]$



intersect.



So I isolated $y$ in E2 and then squared it so that I could eliminate it using E1 and then solve for $x$. This turned to be very gnarly.



Is there an easier way of finding the intersection points of E1 and E2?
(as shown here in graph)



ContourPlot[
(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5,
Frame -> False, Axes -> True]









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    I need to find the points at which the two ellipses implicitly defined by



    $qquad y^2=4-4,x^2 quad[E1]$



    and



    $qquad (1-(x/2))^2+(y-1)^2=1 quad[E2]$



    intersect.



    So I isolated $y$ in E2 and then squared it so that I could eliminate it using E1 and then solve for $x$. This turned to be very gnarly.



    Is there an easier way of finding the intersection points of E1 and E2?
    (as shown here in graph)



    ContourPlot[
    (y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5,
    Frame -> False, Axes -> True]









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      I need to find the points at which the two ellipses implicitly defined by



      $qquad y^2=4-4,x^2 quad[E1]$



      and



      $qquad (1-(x/2))^2+(y-1)^2=1 quad[E2]$



      intersect.



      So I isolated $y$ in E2 and then squared it so that I could eliminate it using E1 and then solve for $x$. This turned to be very gnarly.



      Is there an easier way of finding the intersection points of E1 and E2?
      (as shown here in graph)



      ContourPlot[
      (y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5,
      Frame -> False, Axes -> True]









      share|improve this question












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      I need to find the points at which the two ellipses implicitly defined by



      $qquad y^2=4-4,x^2 quad[E1]$



      and



      $qquad (1-(x/2))^2+(y-1)^2=1 quad[E2]$



      intersect.



      So I isolated $y$ in E2 and then squared it so that I could eliminate it using E1 and then solve for $x$. This turned to be very gnarly.



      Is there an easier way of finding the intersection points of E1 and E2?
      (as shown here in graph)



      ContourPlot[
      (y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5,
      Frame -> False, Axes -> True]






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          Solve can be used directly



          pts = x, y /. 
          Solve[y^2 == 4 - 4 x^2, (1 - (x/2))^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1, x, y,
          Reals] // FullSimplify

          (* Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
          120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 1,
          0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
          1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
          225*#1^4 & , 2, 0],
          Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
          120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 2,
          0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
          1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
          225*#1^4 & , 1, 0] *)


          Converting the Root objects to their numeric values



          pts // N

          (* 0.539936, 1.68341, 0.997732, 0.13463 *)

          Show[
          ContourPlot[
          (y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2),
          ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1),
          x, -1.5, 4.5, y, -3, 3,
          Frame -> False,
          Axes -> True],
          Graphics[Red, AbsolutePointSize[4], Point[pts]]]


          enter image description here






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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you, @BobHanlon
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          You can (1) use Cases to extract the Lines from ContourPlot output, and (2) use RegionIntersection to find the intersections:



          cp = ContourPlot[(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 
          1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5, Frame -> False, Axes -> True];

          intersections = RegionIntersection @@ Cases[Normal @ cp, _Line, All]



          Point[0.992916, 0.140285, 0.539984, 1.68261]




          Show[cp, Epilog->Red, PointSize[Large], intersections]


          enter image description here



          Show[cp, ListPlot[Callout[#, ##, Automatic, 
          LabelStyle -> 13, Appearance -> "Frame", LeaderSize -> 30, CalloutStyle -> Red,
          CalloutMarker -> "BoxPoint"] & /@ intersections[[1]]],
          PlotRange -> -3, 4, -3, 3]


          enter image description here






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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you for your help, @kglr
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            Aug 11 at 0:19


















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          Clearly the easy way is to get a computer program to solve it for you.



          If for some reason you want to do it by hand, you could do this:



          $(1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1$



          $(y - 1)^2 == 1-(1 - x/2)^2 == x - x^2/4 $



          $y^2 - (y - 1)^2 == 4-4x^2 - (x - x^2/4 )$



          $y^2 - (y^2 -2y+ 1) == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4 $



          $ 2y-1 == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4)$



          $ y == frac5-4x^2 - x + x^2/42)$



          And now it's practically a straight binomial.



          But I notice this is for Mathematica, and you didn't show why you had a problem using Mathematica. It looked like you were doing stuff by hand.






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            Hi, @JThomas , thanks for your help! The problem was that as I have not used Mathematica for long, I wasn't sure as to how to solve the equation using Mathematica.
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            Aug 12 at 8:59












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          $begingroup$

          Solve can be used directly



          pts = x, y /. 
          Solve[y^2 == 4 - 4 x^2, (1 - (x/2))^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1, x, y,
          Reals] // FullSimplify

          (* Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
          120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 1,
          0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
          1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
          225*#1^4 & , 2, 0],
          Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
          120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 2,
          0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
          1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
          225*#1^4 & , 1, 0] *)


          Converting the Root objects to their numeric values



          pts // N

          (* 0.539936, 1.68341, 0.997732, 0.13463 *)

          Show[
          ContourPlot[
          (y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2),
          ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1),
          x, -1.5, 4.5, y, -3, 3,
          Frame -> False,
          Axes -> True],
          Graphics[Red, AbsolutePointSize[4], Point[pts]]]


          enter image description here






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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you, @BobHanlon
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            – wendy
            Aug 11 at 0:19















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          $begingroup$

          Solve can be used directly



          pts = x, y /. 
          Solve[y^2 == 4 - 4 x^2, (1 - (x/2))^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1, x, y,
          Reals] // FullSimplify

          (* Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
          120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 1,
          0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
          1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
          225*#1^4 & , 2, 0],
          Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
          120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 2,
          0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
          1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
          225*#1^4 & , 1, 0] *)


          Converting the Root objects to their numeric values



          pts // N

          (* 0.539936, 1.68341, 0.997732, 0.13463 *)

          Show[
          ContourPlot[
          (y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2),
          ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1),
          x, -1.5, 4.5, y, -3, 3,
          Frame -> False,
          Axes -> True],
          Graphics[Red, AbsolutePointSize[4], Point[pts]]]


          enter image description here






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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you, @BobHanlon
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            Aug 11 at 0:19













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          $begingroup$

          Solve can be used directly



          pts = x, y /. 
          Solve[y^2 == 4 - 4 x^2, (1 - (x/2))^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1, x, y,
          Reals] // FullSimplify

          (* Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
          120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 1,
          0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
          1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
          225*#1^4 & , 2, 0],
          Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
          120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 2,
          0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
          1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
          225*#1^4 & , 1, 0] *)


          Converting the Root objects to their numeric values



          pts // N

          (* 0.539936, 1.68341, 0.997732, 0.13463 *)

          Show[
          ContourPlot[
          (y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2),
          ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1),
          x, -1.5, 4.5, y, -3, 3,
          Frame -> False,
          Axes -> True],
          Graphics[Red, AbsolutePointSize[4], Point[pts]]]


          enter image description here






          share|improve this answer










          $endgroup$



          Solve can be used directly



          pts = x, y /. 
          Solve[y^2 == 4 - 4 x^2, (1 - (x/2))^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1, x, y,
          Reals] // FullSimplify

          (* Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
          120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 1,
          0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
          1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
          225*#1^4 & , 2, 0],
          Root[144 - 160*#1 - 328*#1^2 +
          120*#1^3 + 225*#1^4 & , 2,
          0], Root[144 - 1280*#1 +
          1688*#1^2 - 960*#1^3 +
          225*#1^4 & , 1, 0] *)


          Converting the Root objects to their numeric values



          pts // N

          (* 0.539936, 1.68341, 0.997732, 0.13463 *)

          Show[
          ContourPlot[
          (y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2),
          ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1),
          x, -1.5, 4.5, y, -3, 3,
          Frame -> False,
          Axes -> True],
          Graphics[Red, AbsolutePointSize[4], Point[pts]]]


          enter image description here







          share|improve this answer













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          • $begingroup$
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          • $begingroup$
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            Aug 11 at 0:19















          $begingroup$
          Thank you, @BobHanlon
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          $begingroup$
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          Aug 11 at 0:19













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          You can (1) use Cases to extract the Lines from ContourPlot output, and (2) use RegionIntersection to find the intersections:



          cp = ContourPlot[(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 
          1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5, Frame -> False, Axes -> True];

          intersections = RegionIntersection @@ Cases[Normal @ cp, _Line, All]



          Point[0.992916, 0.140285, 0.539984, 1.68261]




          Show[cp, Epilog->Red, PointSize[Large], intersections]


          enter image description here



          Show[cp, ListPlot[Callout[#, ##, Automatic, 
          LabelStyle -> 13, Appearance -> "Frame", LeaderSize -> 30, CalloutStyle -> Red,
          CalloutMarker -> "BoxPoint"] & /@ intersections[[1]]],
          PlotRange -> -3, 4, -3, 3]


          enter image description here






          share|improve this answer












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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you for your help, @kglr
            $endgroup$
            – wendy
            Aug 11 at 0:19















          13
















          $begingroup$

          You can (1) use Cases to extract the Lines from ContourPlot output, and (2) use RegionIntersection to find the intersections:



          cp = ContourPlot[(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 
          1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5, Frame -> False, Axes -> True];

          intersections = RegionIntersection @@ Cases[Normal @ cp, _Line, All]



          Point[0.992916, 0.140285, 0.539984, 1.68261]




          Show[cp, Epilog->Red, PointSize[Large], intersections]


          enter image description here



          Show[cp, ListPlot[Callout[#, ##, Automatic, 
          LabelStyle -> 13, Appearance -> "Frame", LeaderSize -> 30, CalloutStyle -> Red,
          CalloutMarker -> "BoxPoint"] & /@ intersections[[1]]],
          PlotRange -> -3, 4, -3, 3]


          enter image description here






          share|improve this answer












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          • $begingroup$
            Thank you for your help, @kglr
            $endgroup$
            – wendy
            Aug 11 at 0:19













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          13










          13







          $begingroup$

          You can (1) use Cases to extract the Lines from ContourPlot output, and (2) use RegionIntersection to find the intersections:



          cp = ContourPlot[(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 
          1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5, Frame -> False, Axes -> True];

          intersections = RegionIntersection @@ Cases[Normal @ cp, _Line, All]



          Point[0.992916, 0.140285, 0.539984, 1.68261]




          Show[cp, Epilog->Red, PointSize[Large], intersections]


          enter image description here



          Show[cp, ListPlot[Callout[#, ##, Automatic, 
          LabelStyle -> 13, Appearance -> "Frame", LeaderSize -> 30, CalloutStyle -> Red,
          CalloutMarker -> "BoxPoint"] & /@ intersections[[1]]],
          PlotRange -> -3, 4, -3, 3]


          enter image description here






          share|improve this answer












          $endgroup$



          You can (1) use Cases to extract the Lines from ContourPlot output, and (2) use RegionIntersection to find the intersections:



          cp = ContourPlot[(y^2 == 4 - 4*x^2), ((1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 
          1), x, -5, 5, y, -5, 5, Frame -> False, Axes -> True];

          intersections = RegionIntersection @@ Cases[Normal @ cp, _Line, All]



          Point[0.992916, 0.140285, 0.539984, 1.68261]




          Show[cp, Epilog->Red, PointSize[Large], intersections]


          enter image description here



          Show[cp, ListPlot[Callout[#, ##, Automatic, 
          LabelStyle -> 13, Appearance -> "Frame", LeaderSize -> 30, CalloutStyle -> Red,
          CalloutMarker -> "BoxPoint"] & /@ intersections[[1]]],
          PlotRange -> -3, 4, -3, 3]


          enter image description here







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          answered Aug 10 at 23:59









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            Thank you for your help, @kglr
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            Aug 11 at 0:19
















          • $begingroup$
            Thank you for your help, @kglr
            $endgroup$
            – wendy
            Aug 11 at 0:19















          $begingroup$
          Thank you for your help, @kglr
          $endgroup$
          – wendy
          Aug 11 at 0:19




          $begingroup$
          Thank you for your help, @kglr
          $endgroup$
          – wendy
          Aug 11 at 0:19











          2
















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          Clearly the easy way is to get a computer program to solve it for you.



          If for some reason you want to do it by hand, you could do this:



          $(1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1$



          $(y - 1)^2 == 1-(1 - x/2)^2 == x - x^2/4 $



          $y^2 - (y - 1)^2 == 4-4x^2 - (x - x^2/4 )$



          $y^2 - (y^2 -2y+ 1) == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4 $



          $ 2y-1 == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4)$



          $ y == frac5-4x^2 - x + x^2/42)$



          And now it's practically a straight binomial.



          But I notice this is for Mathematica, and you didn't show why you had a problem using Mathematica. It looked like you were doing stuff by hand.






          share|improve this answer












          $endgroup$










          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Hi, @JThomas , thanks for your help! The problem was that as I have not used Mathematica for long, I wasn't sure as to how to solve the equation using Mathematica.
            $endgroup$
            – wendy
            Aug 12 at 8:59















          2
















          $begingroup$

          Clearly the easy way is to get a computer program to solve it for you.



          If for some reason you want to do it by hand, you could do this:



          $(1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1$



          $(y - 1)^2 == 1-(1 - x/2)^2 == x - x^2/4 $



          $y^2 - (y - 1)^2 == 4-4x^2 - (x - x^2/4 )$



          $y^2 - (y^2 -2y+ 1) == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4 $



          $ 2y-1 == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4)$



          $ y == frac5-4x^2 - x + x^2/42)$



          And now it's practically a straight binomial.



          But I notice this is for Mathematica, and you didn't show why you had a problem using Mathematica. It looked like you were doing stuff by hand.






          share|improve this answer












          $endgroup$










          • 1




            $begingroup$
            Hi, @JThomas , thanks for your help! The problem was that as I have not used Mathematica for long, I wasn't sure as to how to solve the equation using Mathematica.
            $endgroup$
            – wendy
            Aug 12 at 8:59













          2














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          2







          $begingroup$

          Clearly the easy way is to get a computer program to solve it for you.



          If for some reason you want to do it by hand, you could do this:



          $(1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1$



          $(y - 1)^2 == 1-(1 - x/2)^2 == x - x^2/4 $



          $y^2 - (y - 1)^2 == 4-4x^2 - (x - x^2/4 )$



          $y^2 - (y^2 -2y+ 1) == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4 $



          $ 2y-1 == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4)$



          $ y == frac5-4x^2 - x + x^2/42)$



          And now it's practically a straight binomial.



          But I notice this is for Mathematica, and you didn't show why you had a problem using Mathematica. It looked like you were doing stuff by hand.






          share|improve this answer












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          Clearly the easy way is to get a computer program to solve it for you.



          If for some reason you want to do it by hand, you could do this:



          $(1 - x/2)^2 + (y - 1)^2 == 1$



          $(y - 1)^2 == 1-(1 - x/2)^2 == x - x^2/4 $



          $y^2 - (y - 1)^2 == 4-4x^2 - (x - x^2/4 )$



          $y^2 - (y^2 -2y+ 1) == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4 $



          $ 2y-1 == 4-4x^2 - x + x^2/4)$



          $ y == frac5-4x^2 - x + x^2/42)$



          And now it's practically a straight binomial.



          But I notice this is for Mathematica, and you didn't show why you had a problem using Mathematica. It looked like you were doing stuff by hand.







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