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I'm trying to solve this exercise:
Suppose an arbitrary theory (Flat space-time?) with a single field (Is a scalar field?) invariant under dilations, i.e.
$xmapsto b x$ and $phi mapsto phi$. Show that the stress energy
tensor is traceless.
Writing the transformations as $xmapsto e^theta x$, $phimapsto e^omegathetaphi$, and $partial_muphimapsto e^(omega-1)thetapartial_muphi$, for $omega=0$.
I get the variations as $delta x_mu=theta x_mu$, $deltaphi=omegathetaphi=0$, and $partial_muphi=(omega-1)thetapartial_mu phi=-thetapartial_muphi$; and
I've tried to get some useful expression bassed on the variation of lagrangian:
$$
delta L=fracpartial Lpartialphidelta phi+fracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)delta(partial_muphi)=-thetafracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)partial_muphi.
$$
On the other hand, the trace of the tensor takes the form
$$
T_mu^mu=eta_munuT^munu=eta_munu(-eta^munuL+fracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)partial^nuphi)=-2L+fracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)partial_muphi
$$
Thus,
$$
T_mu^mu=-2L-fracdelta Ltheta.
$$
Obviously, if the lagrangian is invariant then the Tensor isn't traceless. So I don't have idea how to proceed.
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I'm trying to solve this exercise:
Suppose an arbitrary theory (Flat space-time?) with a single field (Is a scalar field?) invariant under dilations, i.e.
$xmapsto b x$ and $phi mapsto phi$. Show that the stress energy
tensor is traceless.
Writing the transformations as $xmapsto e^theta x$, $phimapsto e^omegathetaphi$, and $partial_muphimapsto e^(omega-1)thetapartial_muphi$, for $omega=0$.
I get the variations as $delta x_mu=theta x_mu$, $deltaphi=omegathetaphi=0$, and $partial_muphi=(omega-1)thetapartial_mu phi=-thetapartial_muphi$; and
I've tried to get some useful expression bassed on the variation of lagrangian:
$$
delta L=fracpartial Lpartialphidelta phi+fracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)delta(partial_muphi)=-thetafracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)partial_muphi.
$$
On the other hand, the trace of the tensor takes the form
$$
T_mu^mu=eta_munuT^munu=eta_munu(-eta^munuL+fracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)partial^nuphi)=-2L+fracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)partial_muphi
$$
Thus,
$$
T_mu^mu=-2L-fracdelta Ltheta.
$$
Obviously, if the lagrangian is invariant then the Tensor isn't traceless. So I don't have idea how to proceed.
homework-and-exercises lagrangian-formalism field-theory stress-energy-momentum-tensor scale-invariance
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I'm trying to solve this exercise:
Suppose an arbitrary theory (Flat space-time?) with a single field (Is a scalar field?) invariant under dilations, i.e.
$xmapsto b x$ and $phi mapsto phi$. Show that the stress energy
tensor is traceless.
Writing the transformations as $xmapsto e^theta x$, $phimapsto e^omegathetaphi$, and $partial_muphimapsto e^(omega-1)thetapartial_muphi$, for $omega=0$.
I get the variations as $delta x_mu=theta x_mu$, $deltaphi=omegathetaphi=0$, and $partial_muphi=(omega-1)thetapartial_mu phi=-thetapartial_muphi$; and
I've tried to get some useful expression bassed on the variation of lagrangian:
$$
delta L=fracpartial Lpartialphidelta phi+fracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)delta(partial_muphi)=-thetafracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)partial_muphi.
$$
On the other hand, the trace of the tensor takes the form
$$
T_mu^mu=eta_munuT^munu=eta_munu(-eta^munuL+fracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)partial^nuphi)=-2L+fracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)partial_muphi
$$
Thus,
$$
T_mu^mu=-2L-fracdelta Ltheta.
$$
Obviously, if the lagrangian is invariant then the Tensor isn't traceless. So I don't have idea how to proceed.
homework-and-exercises lagrangian-formalism field-theory stress-energy-momentum-tensor scale-invariance
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I'm trying to solve this exercise:
Suppose an arbitrary theory (Flat space-time?) with a single field (Is a scalar field?) invariant under dilations, i.e.
$xmapsto b x$ and $phi mapsto phi$. Show that the stress energy
tensor is traceless.
Writing the transformations as $xmapsto e^theta x$, $phimapsto e^omegathetaphi$, and $partial_muphimapsto e^(omega-1)thetapartial_muphi$, for $omega=0$.
I get the variations as $delta x_mu=theta x_mu$, $deltaphi=omegathetaphi=0$, and $partial_muphi=(omega-1)thetapartial_mu phi=-thetapartial_muphi$; and
I've tried to get some useful expression bassed on the variation of lagrangian:
$$
delta L=fracpartial Lpartialphidelta phi+fracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)delta(partial_muphi)=-thetafracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)partial_muphi.
$$
On the other hand, the trace of the tensor takes the form
$$
T_mu^mu=eta_munuT^munu=eta_munu(-eta^munuL+fracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)partial^nuphi)=-2L+fracpartial Lpartial(partial_muphi)partial_muphi
$$
Thus,
$$
T_mu^mu=-2L-fracdelta Ltheta.
$$
Obviously, if the lagrangian is invariant then the Tensor isn't traceless. So I don't have idea how to proceed.
homework-and-exercises lagrangian-formalism field-theory stress-energy-momentum-tensor scale-invariance
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"Arbitrary theory" probably means
- do not make a specific choice of metric (i.e. flat space time, your $eta_munu$),
- do not make a specific choice of the symmetry operation (why did you define $phi rightarrow e^omega thetaphi$? If $theta, omega in mathbbR$, then it does not have magnitude $1$. If one of them is an imaginary number, then you've selected a $U(1)$ symmetry.
So basically use equations that are general and apply to anything within the Lagrangian formalism.
For instance, the stress energy tensor can be generally written as:
$$ T_munu = frac-2sqrt-gfracdelta Sdelta g^munu,$$
where $S$ is the action.
Scaling transformations are a special case of conformal transformations where
$$ delta g^munu = epsilon g^munu,$$
in your specific example $epsilon = b^2$.
Inverting the formula to single out the variation of the action:
$$ delta S propto T_munudelta g^munu = epsilon T_munu g^munu = T^mu_mu,$$
where the last step is the trace!
Since the action must be minimised, $delta S =0$, you must have $T^mu_mu=0$, i.e. a traceless stress-energy tensor.
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We know that the stress-energy tensor is divergenceless, i.e.
$$partial_muT^munu=0.$$
A proof of this follows from the definition of canonical stress-energy tensor considering the action is invariant under translation $x^mu rightarrow x^mu + a^mu$. Now the transformation that you mentioned is a conformal transformation. Infinitesimally, the conformal transformation can be written as, $$x^mu rightarrow x'^mu = x^mu + epsilon^mu(x),$$ where $epsilon$ follows,
$$partial^mu epsilon^nu + partial^nuepsilon^mu = frac2d(partial.epsilon)eta^munu.$$ This equation is known as confomal Killing equation which can be derived from the property about how the metric changes under a conformal transformation.
Now, for a conformal symmetry, Noether's theorem suggests that there is a current $j_mu = T_munuepsilon^nu$ which is conserved. Hence,
$$partial^mu j_mu = 0$$
$$beginalign
&implies (partial^mu T_munu)epsilon^nu + T_munupartial^muepsilon^nu=0\
&implies frac12 T_munu (partial^muepsilon^nu + partial^nuepsilon^mu)=0\
&implies frac12 T_munu frac2d(partial.epsilon)eta^munu=0\
&implies frac1d(partial.epsilon) T^mu_mu = 0.
endalign$$
Since this is true for any $epsilon(x)$, $T^mu_mu=0$. That is the stress-energy tensor is traceless. The $epsilon(x)$ in your case is $(b-1)x$.
The answer given by SuperCiocia is perfectly correct and nice but uses the Einstein-Hilbert form of the stress-energy tensor. However, from the question, it seems that the OP is more familiar with the canonical stress-energy tensor. Hence, this is an alternative derivation of the tracelessness of the stress-energy tensor for a conformal transformation.
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Wait can you write scaling $xrightarrow bx$ as a translation $xrightarrow x+a$?
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– SuperCiocia
Sep 30 at 6:32
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Where does the condition $phitophi$ enter this argument (same goes for the answer above)?
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– Winther
Sep 30 at 12:27
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@SuperCiocia You can write $xrightarrow bx = x+(b-1)x=x+epsilon(x)$ where $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$. Remember that in the derivation $epsilon$ does not have to be a constant but can be a function of $x$.
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Sep 30 at 14:27
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There was a typo in the answer which I fixed. $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$
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Sep 30 at 14:27
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Ah ok thank you
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"Arbitrary theory" probably means
- do not make a specific choice of metric (i.e. flat space time, your $eta_munu$),
- do not make a specific choice of the symmetry operation (why did you define $phi rightarrow e^omega thetaphi$? If $theta, omega in mathbbR$, then it does not have magnitude $1$. If one of them is an imaginary number, then you've selected a $U(1)$ symmetry.
So basically use equations that are general and apply to anything within the Lagrangian formalism.
For instance, the stress energy tensor can be generally written as:
$$ T_munu = frac-2sqrt-gfracdelta Sdelta g^munu,$$
where $S$ is the action.
Scaling transformations are a special case of conformal transformations where
$$ delta g^munu = epsilon g^munu,$$
in your specific example $epsilon = b^2$.
Inverting the formula to single out the variation of the action:
$$ delta S propto T_munudelta g^munu = epsilon T_munu g^munu = T^mu_mu,$$
where the last step is the trace!
Since the action must be minimised, $delta S =0$, you must have $T^mu_mu=0$, i.e. a traceless stress-energy tensor.
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"Arbitrary theory" probably means
- do not make a specific choice of metric (i.e. flat space time, your $eta_munu$),
- do not make a specific choice of the symmetry operation (why did you define $phi rightarrow e^omega thetaphi$? If $theta, omega in mathbbR$, then it does not have magnitude $1$. If one of them is an imaginary number, then you've selected a $U(1)$ symmetry.
So basically use equations that are general and apply to anything within the Lagrangian formalism.
For instance, the stress energy tensor can be generally written as:
$$ T_munu = frac-2sqrt-gfracdelta Sdelta g^munu,$$
where $S$ is the action.
Scaling transformations are a special case of conformal transformations where
$$ delta g^munu = epsilon g^munu,$$
in your specific example $epsilon = b^2$.
Inverting the formula to single out the variation of the action:
$$ delta S propto T_munudelta g^munu = epsilon T_munu g^munu = T^mu_mu,$$
where the last step is the trace!
Since the action must be minimised, $delta S =0$, you must have $T^mu_mu=0$, i.e. a traceless stress-energy tensor.
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"Arbitrary theory" probably means
- do not make a specific choice of metric (i.e. flat space time, your $eta_munu$),
- do not make a specific choice of the symmetry operation (why did you define $phi rightarrow e^omega thetaphi$? If $theta, omega in mathbbR$, then it does not have magnitude $1$. If one of them is an imaginary number, then you've selected a $U(1)$ symmetry.
So basically use equations that are general and apply to anything within the Lagrangian formalism.
For instance, the stress energy tensor can be generally written as:
$$ T_munu = frac-2sqrt-gfracdelta Sdelta g^munu,$$
where $S$ is the action.
Scaling transformations are a special case of conformal transformations where
$$ delta g^munu = epsilon g^munu,$$
in your specific example $epsilon = b^2$.
Inverting the formula to single out the variation of the action:
$$ delta S propto T_munudelta g^munu = epsilon T_munu g^munu = T^mu_mu,$$
where the last step is the trace!
Since the action must be minimised, $delta S =0$, you must have $T^mu_mu=0$, i.e. a traceless stress-energy tensor.
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"Arbitrary theory" probably means
- do not make a specific choice of metric (i.e. flat space time, your $eta_munu$),
- do not make a specific choice of the symmetry operation (why did you define $phi rightarrow e^omega thetaphi$? If $theta, omega in mathbbR$, then it does not have magnitude $1$. If one of them is an imaginary number, then you've selected a $U(1)$ symmetry.
So basically use equations that are general and apply to anything within the Lagrangian formalism.
For instance, the stress energy tensor can be generally written as:
$$ T_munu = frac-2sqrt-gfracdelta Sdelta g^munu,$$
where $S$ is the action.
Scaling transformations are a special case of conformal transformations where
$$ delta g^munu = epsilon g^munu,$$
in your specific example $epsilon = b^2$.
Inverting the formula to single out the variation of the action:
$$ delta S propto T_munudelta g^munu = epsilon T_munu g^munu = T^mu_mu,$$
where the last step is the trace!
Since the action must be minimised, $delta S =0$, you must have $T^mu_mu=0$, i.e. a traceless stress-energy tensor.
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We know that the stress-energy tensor is divergenceless, i.e.
$$partial_muT^munu=0.$$
A proof of this follows from the definition of canonical stress-energy tensor considering the action is invariant under translation $x^mu rightarrow x^mu + a^mu$. Now the transformation that you mentioned is a conformal transformation. Infinitesimally, the conformal transformation can be written as, $$x^mu rightarrow x'^mu = x^mu + epsilon^mu(x),$$ where $epsilon$ follows,
$$partial^mu epsilon^nu + partial^nuepsilon^mu = frac2d(partial.epsilon)eta^munu.$$ This equation is known as confomal Killing equation which can be derived from the property about how the metric changes under a conformal transformation.
Now, for a conformal symmetry, Noether's theorem suggests that there is a current $j_mu = T_munuepsilon^nu$ which is conserved. Hence,
$$partial^mu j_mu = 0$$
$$beginalign
&implies (partial^mu T_munu)epsilon^nu + T_munupartial^muepsilon^nu=0\
&implies frac12 T_munu (partial^muepsilon^nu + partial^nuepsilon^mu)=0\
&implies frac12 T_munu frac2d(partial.epsilon)eta^munu=0\
&implies frac1d(partial.epsilon) T^mu_mu = 0.
endalign$$
Since this is true for any $epsilon(x)$, $T^mu_mu=0$. That is the stress-energy tensor is traceless. The $epsilon(x)$ in your case is $(b-1)x$.
The answer given by SuperCiocia is perfectly correct and nice but uses the Einstein-Hilbert form of the stress-energy tensor. However, from the question, it seems that the OP is more familiar with the canonical stress-energy tensor. Hence, this is an alternative derivation of the tracelessness of the stress-energy tensor for a conformal transformation.
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Wait can you write scaling $xrightarrow bx$ as a translation $xrightarrow x+a$?
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– SuperCiocia
Sep 30 at 6:32
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Where does the condition $phitophi$ enter this argument (same goes for the answer above)?
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– Winther
Sep 30 at 12:27
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@SuperCiocia You can write $xrightarrow bx = x+(b-1)x=x+epsilon(x)$ where $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$. Remember that in the derivation $epsilon$ does not have to be a constant but can be a function of $x$.
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– abhijit975
Sep 30 at 14:27
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There was a typo in the answer which I fixed. $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$
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– abhijit975
Sep 30 at 14:27
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Ah ok thank you
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– SuperCiocia
Sep 30 at 15:19
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We know that the stress-energy tensor is divergenceless, i.e.
$$partial_muT^munu=0.$$
A proof of this follows from the definition of canonical stress-energy tensor considering the action is invariant under translation $x^mu rightarrow x^mu + a^mu$. Now the transformation that you mentioned is a conformal transformation. Infinitesimally, the conformal transformation can be written as, $$x^mu rightarrow x'^mu = x^mu + epsilon^mu(x),$$ where $epsilon$ follows,
$$partial^mu epsilon^nu + partial^nuepsilon^mu = frac2d(partial.epsilon)eta^munu.$$ This equation is known as confomal Killing equation which can be derived from the property about how the metric changes under a conformal transformation.
Now, for a conformal symmetry, Noether's theorem suggests that there is a current $j_mu = T_munuepsilon^nu$ which is conserved. Hence,
$$partial^mu j_mu = 0$$
$$beginalign
&implies (partial^mu T_munu)epsilon^nu + T_munupartial^muepsilon^nu=0\
&implies frac12 T_munu (partial^muepsilon^nu + partial^nuepsilon^mu)=0\
&implies frac12 T_munu frac2d(partial.epsilon)eta^munu=0\
&implies frac1d(partial.epsilon) T^mu_mu = 0.
endalign$$
Since this is true for any $epsilon(x)$, $T^mu_mu=0$. That is the stress-energy tensor is traceless. The $epsilon(x)$ in your case is $(b-1)x$.
The answer given by SuperCiocia is perfectly correct and nice but uses the Einstein-Hilbert form of the stress-energy tensor. However, from the question, it seems that the OP is more familiar with the canonical stress-energy tensor. Hence, this is an alternative derivation of the tracelessness of the stress-energy tensor for a conformal transformation.
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Wait can you write scaling $xrightarrow bx$ as a translation $xrightarrow x+a$?
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– SuperCiocia
Sep 30 at 6:32
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Where does the condition $phitophi$ enter this argument (same goes for the answer above)?
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– Winther
Sep 30 at 12:27
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@SuperCiocia You can write $xrightarrow bx = x+(b-1)x=x+epsilon(x)$ where $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$. Remember that in the derivation $epsilon$ does not have to be a constant but can be a function of $x$.
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– abhijit975
Sep 30 at 14:27
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There was a typo in the answer which I fixed. $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$
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– abhijit975
Sep 30 at 14:27
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Ah ok thank you
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– SuperCiocia
Sep 30 at 15:19
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We know that the stress-energy tensor is divergenceless, i.e.
$$partial_muT^munu=0.$$
A proof of this follows from the definition of canonical stress-energy tensor considering the action is invariant under translation $x^mu rightarrow x^mu + a^mu$. Now the transformation that you mentioned is a conformal transformation. Infinitesimally, the conformal transformation can be written as, $$x^mu rightarrow x'^mu = x^mu + epsilon^mu(x),$$ where $epsilon$ follows,
$$partial^mu epsilon^nu + partial^nuepsilon^mu = frac2d(partial.epsilon)eta^munu.$$ This equation is known as confomal Killing equation which can be derived from the property about how the metric changes under a conformal transformation.
Now, for a conformal symmetry, Noether's theorem suggests that there is a current $j_mu = T_munuepsilon^nu$ which is conserved. Hence,
$$partial^mu j_mu = 0$$
$$beginalign
&implies (partial^mu T_munu)epsilon^nu + T_munupartial^muepsilon^nu=0\
&implies frac12 T_munu (partial^muepsilon^nu + partial^nuepsilon^mu)=0\
&implies frac12 T_munu frac2d(partial.epsilon)eta^munu=0\
&implies frac1d(partial.epsilon) T^mu_mu = 0.
endalign$$
Since this is true for any $epsilon(x)$, $T^mu_mu=0$. That is the stress-energy tensor is traceless. The $epsilon(x)$ in your case is $(b-1)x$.
The answer given by SuperCiocia is perfectly correct and nice but uses the Einstein-Hilbert form of the stress-energy tensor. However, from the question, it seems that the OP is more familiar with the canonical stress-energy tensor. Hence, this is an alternative derivation of the tracelessness of the stress-energy tensor for a conformal transformation.
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We know that the stress-energy tensor is divergenceless, i.e.
$$partial_muT^munu=0.$$
A proof of this follows from the definition of canonical stress-energy tensor considering the action is invariant under translation $x^mu rightarrow x^mu + a^mu$. Now the transformation that you mentioned is a conformal transformation. Infinitesimally, the conformal transformation can be written as, $$x^mu rightarrow x'^mu = x^mu + epsilon^mu(x),$$ where $epsilon$ follows,
$$partial^mu epsilon^nu + partial^nuepsilon^mu = frac2d(partial.epsilon)eta^munu.$$ This equation is known as confomal Killing equation which can be derived from the property about how the metric changes under a conformal transformation.
Now, for a conformal symmetry, Noether's theorem suggests that there is a current $j_mu = T_munuepsilon^nu$ which is conserved. Hence,
$$partial^mu j_mu = 0$$
$$beginalign
&implies (partial^mu T_munu)epsilon^nu + T_munupartial^muepsilon^nu=0\
&implies frac12 T_munu (partial^muepsilon^nu + partial^nuepsilon^mu)=0\
&implies frac12 T_munu frac2d(partial.epsilon)eta^munu=0\
&implies frac1d(partial.epsilon) T^mu_mu = 0.
endalign$$
Since this is true for any $epsilon(x)$, $T^mu_mu=0$. That is the stress-energy tensor is traceless. The $epsilon(x)$ in your case is $(b-1)x$.
The answer given by SuperCiocia is perfectly correct and nice but uses the Einstein-Hilbert form of the stress-energy tensor. However, from the question, it seems that the OP is more familiar with the canonical stress-energy tensor. Hence, this is an alternative derivation of the tracelessness of the stress-energy tensor for a conformal transformation.
edited Sep 30 at 14:24
answered Sep 30 at 0:41
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Wait can you write scaling $xrightarrow bx$ as a translation $xrightarrow x+a$?
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– SuperCiocia
Sep 30 at 6:32
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Where does the condition $phitophi$ enter this argument (same goes for the answer above)?
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– Winther
Sep 30 at 12:27
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@SuperCiocia You can write $xrightarrow bx = x+(b-1)x=x+epsilon(x)$ where $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$. Remember that in the derivation $epsilon$ does not have to be a constant but can be a function of $x$.
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– abhijit975
Sep 30 at 14:27
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There was a typo in the answer which I fixed. $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$
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– abhijit975
Sep 30 at 14:27
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Ah ok thank you
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Sep 30 at 15:19
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Wait can you write scaling $xrightarrow bx$ as a translation $xrightarrow x+a$?
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– SuperCiocia
Sep 30 at 6:32
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Where does the condition $phitophi$ enter this argument (same goes for the answer above)?
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– Winther
Sep 30 at 12:27
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@SuperCiocia You can write $xrightarrow bx = x+(b-1)x=x+epsilon(x)$ where $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$. Remember that in the derivation $epsilon$ does not have to be a constant but can be a function of $x$.
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– abhijit975
Sep 30 at 14:27
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There was a typo in the answer which I fixed. $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$
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– abhijit975
Sep 30 at 14:27
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Ah ok thank you
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– SuperCiocia
Sep 30 at 15:19
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Wait can you write scaling $xrightarrow bx$ as a translation $xrightarrow x+a$?
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– SuperCiocia
Sep 30 at 6:32
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Wait can you write scaling $xrightarrow bx$ as a translation $xrightarrow x+a$?
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– SuperCiocia
Sep 30 at 6:32
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Where does the condition $phitophi$ enter this argument (same goes for the answer above)?
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– Winther
Sep 30 at 12:27
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Where does the condition $phitophi$ enter this argument (same goes for the answer above)?
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– Winther
Sep 30 at 12:27
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@SuperCiocia You can write $xrightarrow bx = x+(b-1)x=x+epsilon(x)$ where $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$. Remember that in the derivation $epsilon$ does not have to be a constant but can be a function of $x$.
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– abhijit975
Sep 30 at 14:27
$begingroup$
@SuperCiocia You can write $xrightarrow bx = x+(b-1)x=x+epsilon(x)$ where $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$. Remember that in the derivation $epsilon$ does not have to be a constant but can be a function of $x$.
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– abhijit975
Sep 30 at 14:27
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There was a typo in the answer which I fixed. $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$
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– abhijit975
Sep 30 at 14:27
$begingroup$
There was a typo in the answer which I fixed. $epsilon(x) = (b-1)x$
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– abhijit975
Sep 30 at 14:27
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Ah ok thank you
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– SuperCiocia
Sep 30 at 15:19
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Ah ok thank you
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– SuperCiocia
Sep 30 at 15:19
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