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Do “if you would gain life, gain that much life +1” abilities trigger once per turn, or once for every instance of you gaining life
How can I improve my deck building skills?Goldnight Redeemer and Angel's TombDo Triggered effects stack?In Commander, does color identity prevent me from taking control of a different colored permanent?Do +1/+1 counters accumulate?How exactly does Extort ability work?Teysa, Orzhov Scion sacrificing one creature multiple times to exhileIf planeswalkers aren't creatures, how does Gideon's defeat work?Can a single event trigger more than one triggered ability?What exactly “triggers an additional time” in the interaction between Afterlife and Teysa Karlov?
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For example, I have a Black/White deck built around life gain. If I have 2 creatures that cause me to gain 1 life with every creature summon and 1 creature with "if you would gain life, gain that much life +1"...
When I play a creature would I gain +1 (summon) +1 (summon) and then +1 (additional) totalling 3
Or would I gain +1 (summon) +1 (additional) and then +1 (summon) +1 (additional) totalling 4
I guess the question is does it trigger for every instance of me gaining life, or just the fact I have done that turn.
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For example, I have a Black/White deck built around life gain. If I have 2 creatures that cause me to gain 1 life with every creature summon and 1 creature with "if you would gain life, gain that much life +1"...
When I play a creature would I gain +1 (summon) +1 (summon) and then +1 (additional) totalling 3
Or would I gain +1 (summon) +1 (additional) and then +1 (summon) +1 (additional) totalling 4
I guess the question is does it trigger for every instance of me gaining life, or just the fact I have done that turn.
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Note that this is not a triggered ability, but a static ability that creates a replacement effect.
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For example, I have a Black/White deck built around life gain. If I have 2 creatures that cause me to gain 1 life with every creature summon and 1 creature with "if you would gain life, gain that much life +1"...
When I play a creature would I gain +1 (summon) +1 (summon) and then +1 (additional) totalling 3
Or would I gain +1 (summon) +1 (additional) and then +1 (summon) +1 (additional) totalling 4
I guess the question is does it trigger for every instance of me gaining life, or just the fact I have done that turn.
magic-the-gathering
asked Sep 29 at 16:40
Tom RileyTom Riley
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For example, I have a Black/White deck built around life gain. If I have 2 creatures that cause me to gain 1 life with every creature summon and 1 creature with "if you would gain life, gain that much life +1"...
When I play a creature would I gain +1 (summon) +1 (summon) and then +1 (additional) totalling 3
Or would I gain +1 (summon) +1 (additional) and then +1 (summon) +1 (additional) totalling 4
I guess the question is does it trigger for every instance of me gaining life, or just the fact I have done that turn.
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Note that this is not a triggered ability, but a static ability that creates a replacement effect.
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Note that this is not a triggered ability, but a static ability that creates a replacement effect.
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Note that this is not a triggered ability, but a static ability that creates a replacement effect.
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A creature like that is Angel of Vitality; its ability applies for every instance of gaining life, not just once per turn.
The middle ability of Angel of Vitality applies just once to each life-gaining event, whether it’s 1 life from Impassioned Orator or 4 life from Dawning Angel. If you gain an amount of life “for each” of something or “equal to the number” of something, that life is gained as one event and the ability of Angel of Vitality applies only once.
(emphasis mine)
So in your scenario you would gain 4 life, since the 2 creatures' abilities trigger separately and are considered two separate life-gaining events, even if they're triggered by the same event.
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You should avoid using the word “triggers” here since it isn’t a triggered ability.
– GendoIkari
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Re "its ability applies for every instance of gaining life", Except if you gain life from multiple likelinked source at the same time [CR 702.15e]. If you gain life from two different lifelinked source at the same time, it counts as two life-gain events even though you only gained life once. As such, Angel of Vitality will grant an extra life for each source in that situation. This is in direct contradiction of the normal handling of events. For example, if you are damaged by two different sources at the same time, it's a single damage event (but different damage from a source events).
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Each life gain is evaluated separately. A creature enters, causing two triggered abilities to be placed on the stack of 'gain 1 life.'
Because of the other creature's replacement effect, each of those effects are replaced with 'gain 1+1 life.'
Each trigger gains you two life, for a total of four.
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A creature like that is Angel of Vitality; its ability applies for every instance of gaining life, not just once per turn.
The middle ability of Angel of Vitality applies just once to each life-gaining event, whether it’s 1 life from Impassioned Orator or 4 life from Dawning Angel. If you gain an amount of life “for each” of something or “equal to the number” of something, that life is gained as one event and the ability of Angel of Vitality applies only once.
(emphasis mine)
So in your scenario you would gain 4 life, since the 2 creatures' abilities trigger separately and are considered two separate life-gaining events, even if they're triggered by the same event.
answered Sep 29 at 16:45
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You should avoid using the word “triggers” here since it isn’t a triggered ability.
– GendoIkari
Sep 29 at 17:06
Re "its ability applies for every instance of gaining life", Except if you gain life from multiple likelinked source at the same time [CR 702.15e]. If you gain life from two different lifelinked source at the same time, it counts as two life-gain events even though you only gained life once. As such, Angel of Vitality will grant an extra life for each source in that situation. This is in direct contradiction of the normal handling of events. For example, if you are damaged by two different sources at the same time, it's a single damage event (but different damage from a source events).
– ikegami
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A creature like that is Angel of Vitality; its ability applies for every instance of gaining life, not just once per turn.
The middle ability of Angel of Vitality applies just once to each life-gaining event, whether it’s 1 life from Impassioned Orator or 4 life from Dawning Angel. If you gain an amount of life “for each” of something or “equal to the number” of something, that life is gained as one event and the ability of Angel of Vitality applies only once.
(emphasis mine)
So in your scenario you would gain 4 life, since the 2 creatures' abilities trigger separately and are considered two separate life-gaining events, even if they're triggered by the same event.
answered Sep 29 at 16:45
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You should avoid using the word “triggers” here since it isn’t a triggered ability.
– GendoIkari
Sep 29 at 17:06
Re "its ability applies for every instance of gaining life", Except if you gain life from multiple likelinked source at the same time [CR 702.15e]. If you gain life from two different lifelinked source at the same time, it counts as two life-gain events even though you only gained life once. As such, Angel of Vitality will grant an extra life for each source in that situation. This is in direct contradiction of the normal handling of events. For example, if you are damaged by two different sources at the same time, it's a single damage event (but different damage from a source events).
– ikegami
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A creature like that is Angel of Vitality; its ability applies for every instance of gaining life, not just once per turn.
The middle ability of Angel of Vitality applies just once to each life-gaining event, whether it’s 1 life from Impassioned Orator or 4 life from Dawning Angel. If you gain an amount of life “for each” of something or “equal to the number” of something, that life is gained as one event and the ability of Angel of Vitality applies only once.
(emphasis mine)
So in your scenario you would gain 4 life, since the 2 creatures' abilities trigger separately and are considered two separate life-gaining events, even if they're triggered by the same event.
answered Sep 29 at 16:45
GlorfindelGlorfindel
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A creature like that is Angel of Vitality; its ability applies for every instance of gaining life, not just once per turn.
The middle ability of Angel of Vitality applies just once to each life-gaining event, whether it’s 1 life from Impassioned Orator or 4 life from Dawning Angel. If you gain an amount of life “for each” of something or “equal to the number” of something, that life is gained as one event and the ability of Angel of Vitality applies only once.
(emphasis mine)
So in your scenario you would gain 4 life, since the 2 creatures' abilities trigger separately and are considered two separate life-gaining events, even if they're triggered by the same event.
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You should avoid using the word “triggers” here since it isn’t a triggered ability.
– GendoIkari
Sep 29 at 17:06
Re "its ability applies for every instance of gaining life", Except if you gain life from multiple likelinked source at the same time [CR 702.15e]. If you gain life from two different lifelinked source at the same time, it counts as two life-gain events even though you only gained life once. As such, Angel of Vitality will grant an extra life for each source in that situation. This is in direct contradiction of the normal handling of events. For example, if you are damaged by two different sources at the same time, it's a single damage event (but different damage from a source events).
– ikegami
Sep 30 at 10:09
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You should avoid using the word “triggers” here since it isn’t a triggered ability.
– GendoIkari
Sep 29 at 17:06
Re "its ability applies for every instance of gaining life", Except if you gain life from multiple likelinked source at the same time [CR 702.15e]. If you gain life from two different lifelinked source at the same time, it counts as two life-gain events even though you only gained life once. As such, Angel of Vitality will grant an extra life for each source in that situation. This is in direct contradiction of the normal handling of events. For example, if you are damaged by two different sources at the same time, it's a single damage event (but different damage from a source events).
– ikegami
Sep 30 at 10:09
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You should avoid using the word “triggers” here since it isn’t a triggered ability.
– GendoIkari
Sep 29 at 17:06
You should avoid using the word “triggers” here since it isn’t a triggered ability.
– GendoIkari
Sep 29 at 17:06
Re "its ability applies for every instance of gaining life", Except if you gain life from multiple likelinked source at the same time [CR 702.15e]. If you gain life from two different lifelinked source at the same time, it counts as two life-gain events even though you only gained life once. As such, Angel of Vitality will grant an extra life for each source in that situation. This is in direct contradiction of the normal handling of events. For example, if you are damaged by two different sources at the same time, it's a single damage event (but different damage from a source events).
– ikegami
Sep 30 at 10:09
Re "its ability applies for every instance of gaining life", Except if you gain life from multiple likelinked source at the same time [CR 702.15e]. If you gain life from two different lifelinked source at the same time, it counts as two life-gain events even though you only gained life once. As such, Angel of Vitality will grant an extra life for each source in that situation. This is in direct contradiction of the normal handling of events. For example, if you are damaged by two different sources at the same time, it's a single damage event (but different damage from a source events).
– ikegami
Sep 30 at 10:09
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4 Life
Each life gain is evaluated separately. A creature enters, causing two triggered abilities to be placed on the stack of 'gain 1 life.'
Because of the other creature's replacement effect, each of those effects are replaced with 'gain 1+1 life.'
Each trigger gains you two life, for a total of four.
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4 Life
Each life gain is evaluated separately. A creature enters, causing two triggered abilities to be placed on the stack of 'gain 1 life.'
Because of the other creature's replacement effect, each of those effects are replaced with 'gain 1+1 life.'
Each trigger gains you two life, for a total of four.
answered Sep 29 at 16:49
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4 Life
Each life gain is evaluated separately. A creature enters, causing two triggered abilities to be placed on the stack of 'gain 1 life.'
Because of the other creature's replacement effect, each of those effects are replaced with 'gain 1+1 life.'
Each trigger gains you two life, for a total of four.
answered Sep 29 at 16:49
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4 Life
Each life gain is evaluated separately. A creature enters, causing two triggered abilities to be placed on the stack of 'gain 1 life.'
Because of the other creature's replacement effect, each of those effects are replaced with 'gain 1+1 life.'
Each trigger gains you two life, for a total of four.
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Note that this is not a triggered ability, but a static ability that creates a replacement effect.
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