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Will a God Eternal enchanted with Deep Freeze shuffle back into the deck if it dies?
If Emrakul, the Aeons Torn somehow loses all abilities, and then dies, does it shuffle back into the deck?Can Thraben Heretic be used on creatures with undying?Are cards exiled with Ashiok revealed?What triggers/resolves first, an effect from a creature dying or an effect from a creature going into the graveyard?If I kill an opponent's Guile while I control a Planar Void will they get to shuffle it back into their library?What happens if I exile an HOU God from the graveyard?Do I have to shuffle with Settle The Wreckage?Is cascade triggered by putting a creature into play?If Progenitus “dies” to the command zone, can I shuffle my deck?If Emrakul, the Aeons Torn somehow loses all abilities, and then dies, does it shuffle back into the deck?How does Ixalan's Binding work against God Eternals?
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God Eternals such as God-Eternal Oketra have an effect which says:
When God-Eternal Oketra dies or is put into exile from the battlefield, you may put it into its owner's library third from the top.
Deep Freeze on the other hand says the enchanted creature loses all abilities. Does that mean that if God-Eternal Oketra is enchanted by Deep Freeze, and then dies, it will not shuffle back?
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God Eternals such as God-Eternal Oketra have an effect which says:
When God-Eternal Oketra dies or is put into exile from the battlefield, you may put it into its owner's library third from the top.
Deep Freeze on the other hand says the enchanted creature loses all abilities. Does that mean that if God-Eternal Oketra is enchanted by Deep Freeze, and then dies, it will not shuffle back?
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God Eternals such as God-Eternal Oketra have an effect which says:
When God-Eternal Oketra dies or is put into exile from the battlefield, you may put it into its owner's library third from the top.
Deep Freeze on the other hand says the enchanted creature loses all abilities. Does that mean that if God-Eternal Oketra is enchanted by Deep Freeze, and then dies, it will not shuffle back?
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God Eternals such as God-Eternal Oketra have an effect which says:
When God-Eternal Oketra dies or is put into exile from the battlefield, you may put it into its owner's library third from the top.
Deep Freeze on the other hand says the enchanted creature loses all abilities. Does that mean that if God-Eternal Oketra is enchanted by Deep Freeze, and then dies, it will not shuffle back?
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You're right, it won't shuffle back.
I can see why one would think it does; when a creature dies, auras on it die as well. God-Eternal Oketra will enter the graveyard unenchanted, so it 'seems to have' its third ability again, and it should trigger, right? No:
112.6. ... Abilities of all other objects usually function only while that object is on the battlefield. ...
There follows a list of exceptions, e.g. "An object’s ability that modifies how that particular object enters the battlefield functions as that object is entering the battlefield.", but leaving the battlefield (by dying or by being exiled) is not one of them.
So the third ability functions only on the battlefield, and while it's on the battlefield, it's still enchanted an loses all abilities due to Deep Freeze.
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603.10a is relevant here, right? To determine if the triggered ability works, the game looks at the last known state of the object that has left the battlefield.
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You're right, it won't shuffle back.
I can see why one would think it does; when a creature dies, auras on it die as well. God-Eternal Oketra will enter the graveyard unenchanted, so it 'seems to have' its third ability again, and it should trigger, right? No:
112.6. ... Abilities of all other objects usually function only while that object is on the battlefield. ...
There follows a list of exceptions, e.g. "An object’s ability that modifies how that particular object enters the battlefield functions as that object is entering the battlefield.", but leaving the battlefield (by dying or by being exiled) is not one of them.
So the third ability functions only on the battlefield, and while it's on the battlefield, it's still enchanted an loses all abilities due to Deep Freeze.
answered May 4 at 12:10
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603.10a is relevant here, right? To determine if the triggered ability works, the game looks at the last known state of the object that has left the battlefield.
– GendoIkari
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You're right, it won't shuffle back.
I can see why one would think it does; when a creature dies, auras on it die as well. God-Eternal Oketra will enter the graveyard unenchanted, so it 'seems to have' its third ability again, and it should trigger, right? No:
112.6. ... Abilities of all other objects usually function only while that object is on the battlefield. ...
There follows a list of exceptions, e.g. "An object’s ability that modifies how that particular object enters the battlefield functions as that object is entering the battlefield.", but leaving the battlefield (by dying or by being exiled) is not one of them.
So the third ability functions only on the battlefield, and while it's on the battlefield, it's still enchanted an loses all abilities due to Deep Freeze.
answered May 4 at 12:10
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603.10a is relevant here, right? To determine if the triggered ability works, the game looks at the last known state of the object that has left the battlefield.
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You're right, it won't shuffle back.
I can see why one would think it does; when a creature dies, auras on it die as well. God-Eternal Oketra will enter the graveyard unenchanted, so it 'seems to have' its third ability again, and it should trigger, right? No:
112.6. ... Abilities of all other objects usually function only while that object is on the battlefield. ...
There follows a list of exceptions, e.g. "An object’s ability that modifies how that particular object enters the battlefield functions as that object is entering the battlefield.", but leaving the battlefield (by dying or by being exiled) is not one of them.
So the third ability functions only on the battlefield, and while it's on the battlefield, it's still enchanted an loses all abilities due to Deep Freeze.
answered May 4 at 12:10
GlorfindelGlorfindel
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You're right, it won't shuffle back.
I can see why one would think it does; when a creature dies, auras on it die as well. God-Eternal Oketra will enter the graveyard unenchanted, so it 'seems to have' its third ability again, and it should trigger, right? No:
112.6. ... Abilities of all other objects usually function only while that object is on the battlefield. ...
There follows a list of exceptions, e.g. "An object’s ability that modifies how that particular object enters the battlefield functions as that object is entering the battlefield.", but leaving the battlefield (by dying or by being exiled) is not one of them.
So the third ability functions only on the battlefield, and while it's on the battlefield, it's still enchanted an loses all abilities due to Deep Freeze.
answered May 4 at 12:10
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603.10a is relevant here, right? To determine if the triggered ability works, the game looks at the last known state of the object that has left the battlefield.
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603.10a is relevant here, right? To determine if the triggered ability works, the game looks at the last known state of the object that has left the battlefield.
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603.10a is relevant here, right? To determine if the triggered ability works, the game looks at the last known state of the object that has left the battlefield.
– GendoIkari
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